// A little reaction to Nanci's appearance on "Politically Correct,"
// a little more on duets, and info on a Nanci appearance in Austin.
// Enjoy...[BP]

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Subject: NN: Re: Don McLean
   Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 00:58:10 -0500
   From: Jackie (j.klinnert@att.net>

>"I believe I will go on the road with Don McClean accoustically this spring."

Not to be picky, but it's spelled Don McLean, in case someone looks for
his greatest hits CD. (g>

I just saw a repeat of the Garth Brooks' Central Park concert from last
year, and he had Don McLean come out and sing "American Pie" with him.
What do you think he and Nanci will play/sing together? Tell Me How?

Jackie

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Subject: NN: Re: Don McLean
   Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 15:12:23 -0500
   From: kenn lippert (lippert@fyi.net>

>I just saw a repeat of the Garth Brooks' Central Park concert from last
>year, and he had Don McLean come out and sing "American Pie" with him.
>What do you think he and Nanci will play/sing together? Tell Me How?
>
>Jackie

Don McLean taught me to play guitar.  I can hear he and Nanci dueting 
nicely on "Empty Chairs" a song reminecent of "Tecumseh Valley" in 
style and flow and even content.  "Castles in the Air" is something 
maybe more recognizable to most that  I think would also suit them 
both.  Of course "Vincent" is very well known, perhaps over-done, but 
I can hear Nanci's sweet voice there as well.

McLean also has a more "traditional" album with favorites like "Mule 
Skinner Blues", "Fool's Paradise", and "Love oh Love".

kenn "'til tomorrow" lippert

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Subject: NN: Re: Don McLean
   Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 17:39:44 -0500
   From: Shelly Brisbin (sbrisbin@prismnet.com>

Mr. Bill Page wrote:

>In her Barnes and Noble chat this week, Nanci let slip the following tidbits
>regarding Don McClean (sp?) of "American Pie:"
>
>"I will get to sing with him for Austin City Limits special in November."

Actually, I heard a bit about this on Austin radio the other day, but 
didn't post it because I don't know many details. Nanci and Don 
McClean *are* doing a benefit for Austin City Limits at the Paramount 
Theater in Austin. It's in November, but I missed the date. It is not 
an ACL taping, though ACL will film it. The radio guy made it sound 
like tickets were already available, but like I said, I kinda missed 
the meat. If anyone in Austin knows more, jump on in.

-shelly

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Subject: NN: Re: Don McLean
   Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 08:03:05 -0700 (PDT)
   From: Tom Overton (thomasmoverton@yahoo.com>

Shelly,
Nanci will be in Austin on November 2nd.  The tickets
have been on sale for a little while.  Call
512-469-SHOW for tickets.  If I have the number wrong
(I'm going from memory here), write me back and I'll
go look it up at home.
      Tom O

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Subject: NN: Nanci on the road
   Date: Sun, 10 Oct 99 08:42:15 +0100
   From: John Edward Graveling (kai21@dial.pipex.com>

Reading our listmeister Bill Pages' post about Nanci going on the road 
acoustically this spring made me think she is going to be very busy. She 
is in the throes of confirming her 'orchestra' dates here in the UK, with 
the London Symphony, at the Royal Albert Hall, in May. Perhaps, like her 
final tour chat of a couple of years back, it was just another throw away 
remark!!!

John Graveling

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Subject: NN: Top 300 songs
   Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 12:30:20 EDT
   From: Petop@aol.com

If you would like to vote in NPR's survey of the "most important" songs of 
the century, go to:

http://npr.org/programs/specials/vote/ballot.html

   None of Nanci's songs are on the list, but there are some great 
selections and a place for write-ins.

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Subject: NN: st teresa d'avila
   Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:54:43 +0100
   From: Paul Reeve (paul@preeve.clara.co.uk>

In case anyone is interested, a note on the church service sheet today
says that Friday (15th) is St Teresa d'Avila's 'saints day'

Just listening to BRFTM...

Paul

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Subject: NN: TV appearances....Can I get a tape?
   Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 22:34:42 +0000
   From: nancy (nhight@gloryroad.net>

Hi.
Don't mean to clog up the Nanci Net with such a request but I've been
hearing about all of these television appearances Nanci has been making
and have been unable to catch them....
The one I knew about, the David Letterman appearance, I tried to record
but was unsuccessful. The classic tape running out right at the very
moment they show what I want to see. Nanci saying "cha, cha, cha was all
I got. *sigh*

Can anyone help a girl out?

Feel free to email me at    nhight@gloryroad.net

Nancy (with a y)

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Subject: NN: Stacey Earle
   Date: Mon, 11 Oct 99 00:23:15 +0100
   From: John Edward Graveling (kai21@dial.pipex.com>

Tonight inside a hot and steamy London club, The Borderline, Stacey Earle 
put on a performance of great exuberance, no little emotion and proved 
herself to be a star of the future. Her on stage persona reminded me so 
much of a young Nanci Griffith, the thrill of being up there performing 
for your fans being evident. The between song stories were just as 
affecting as some of the songs and the exemplary guitar picking of her 
hubbie Mark only added to a great nights music.

I'd always enjoyed Stacey's cd "Simple Gearle" but this put some of the 
songs in a new light. She also gave us a good smattering of new, soon to 
be recorded material, from her proposed second cd. If you like Nanci the 
'folkie' or Gillian Welch you will simply lap up Stacey. This is a talent 
too precious to lose, so lets get out there and support her, at live gigs 
and by buying the cds. She returns to the States tomorrow for more dates, 
so look out for her in your area, if she's around you are in for a treat.

John "exhilerated by Stacey" Graveling

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Subject: NN: Re: Stacey Earle
   Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 04:03:41 +0200
   From: "Hans Janssen" (hjanssen@zeelandnet.nl>

> She also gave us a good smattering of new, soon to
> be recorded material, from her proposed second cd.

In addition to this I can say that Stacey told, last Thursday in the
Thunderbird Café in Brussels, that her CD will be availavle at the end of
the year on the net and early next year in the shops. Marks CD will out in a
few weeks.

www.staceyearle.com

And for some photos of Stacey and Mark in Brussels:
http://people.zeelandnet.nl/hjanssen/stacey/stacey2.htm

met vriendlijke groeten,

Hans Janssen.

See: http://listen.to/Tish and http://fly.to/nanci

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Subject: NN: Re: Nanci on Politically Incorrect
   Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 17:17:25 EDT
   From: BMiller224@aol.com

Tom Overton writes of Nanci's appearance on "Politically Incorrect" (or is 
that "politically correct," I can never keep the terms straight any more):

(( She was great.  The other people on the show did most of the talking, and 
they were loud.  But when Nanci talked she had something poignant to say and 
she said it succinctly.

She didn't try to talk over people with volume (and I know she has the volume 
from listening to her sing when I met her backstage that she could've talked 
over them).  I really enjoyed seeing her calmly shine in the midst of these 
loud people. >>

I must admit that, as much as I enjoy Nanci's "political" songs (which I've 
argued repeatedly are actually moral statements or social commentary rather 
than "political" in the strict sense), I cringe now at the thought of her 
making actual political statements.  The reason is her bizarre letter to 
Texas critics last year saying that Texans "literally" eat their young.  But 
I'm glad to hear she kept any kind of invective like that under control on 
that show.

I have tickets for December to see her and Emmylou and several others at 
Stanford in a benefit for the international campaign to ban land mines.  I 
don't think it's necessary for a performer to have a model personal life - 
however one would define that - to lend their name to a worthy public cause.  
But hopefully they will represent the cause itself competently.  That is, if 
I agree with the cause.  Otherwise I'm happy for them to do something to 
discredit it.

I just read the new book by Wendy Kaminer, one of my very favorite social 
critics, called ((Sleeping with Extra-Terrestrials.>>  Among a variety of 
other interesting topics, she talks about the confrontational, 
shout-each-other-down style of political discussion that we so often see on 
network TV.  She dislikes the one-way-or-the-other context in which such 
shows frame discussions.  How did we ever get the idea that there are only 
two sides to an issue, she asks?

And she talks about how that style affects interactions online:

(( For several years now, the *Crossfire* model has prevailed:  Every 
argument is thought to have only two sides.  A debate consists of one side 
saying "Is too" and the other side insisting "Is not."  So, when millions of 
Americans went on-line, they were well prepared for a cacophonous world of 
half-finished thoughts and interrupted expositions of ideas. ... Arguments 
are not expected to be linear, or particularly coherent.  I have always 
regarded a good argument as a kind of story (the story of an idea) - but I am 
one of the dinosaurs. >>

I love Wendy Kaminer's writing.  The problem for someone trying to present a 
low key view in a forum like that, which Nanci apprently did, is that if the 
game is zinging the other side with one-liners and you can't or won't do 
that, you're at a disadvantage.

I did see the show.  Besides being poignant and succinct, what did Nanci 
actually talk about?  Or does it matter?  She didn't discuss the eating 
habits of Texans, did she?

Bruce Miller
San Bruno CA

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Subject: NN: yet another duet
   Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 22:02:37 -0700 (PDT)
   From: todd williams (towengmjr@yahoo.com>

Tom Waits?  What could be better?

=====
Todd O. Williams
University of New Mexico
Albuquerque, NM 87131
(505) 925-0855

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Subject: NN: Re: Nanci on PI
   Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 08:24:07 -0500
   From: "Steve Makarsky" (thekidd@flash.net>

Morning, All:  I'm delurking after quite a spell... I would also like to 
ask some kind hearted NNetter out there for a copy of Nanci's PI 
appearance.... I appreciate the folks passing the word on her upcoming 
appearances and events... Otherwise, I'd never hear about where she's 
popping up next... I mean, if it wasn't for the Hookster, I wouldn't 
have heard of her Leno appearance...

Which leads me to wonder what kind of management team Nanci's got... I
know they're aware of NanciNet & her Official Webpage... You'd think
they'd use either as a forum to help publicize her upcoming shows and
appearances.... 

BTW, DBS is excellent!  And second those comments about Bleeker
Street....

Cheers from the Texas Hill Country...

Steve

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Subject: Re: NN: Re: Nanci on PI
   Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:02:34 -0700
   From: Dan.Gerson@mckhboc.com

To all you folks regretting that you missed Nanci on PI:
Rest easy, you didn't miss a thing. It was another horrendous example
of how ridiculous TV has become. It had some great potential for
discussion of the merits of organized religion versus spirituality,
but simply degraded into a one guy trying to project a tough guy,
gangsta image, another buffoon trying to shout even louder while
advancing a preposterous argument about how support of organized
religion cannot help but be supported by an examination of the facts,
(with Nanci trying to counter with examples like the Spanish
Inquisition), all the while trying to bait the gangsta wannabe into
taking a swing at him.

Nanci, Maher, and the 5th participant (an obviously articulate and
intelligent actress whose name escapes me) all tried to offer valid
counters but were simply drowned out by the loud buffoons. I felt like
taking a shower after watching, and although my fears of Nanci being
embarrassed publicly by the experience were unfounded, I wish she
hadn't of bothered and I'm guessing she feels the same way.

Dan G.

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Subject: NN: Re: Nanci on PI
   Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:57:03 -0700
   From: Kathy Wallace (kathyw@walltech.com>

Dan wrote,

>although my fears of Nanci being
>embarrassed publicly by the experience were unfounded, I wish she
>hadn't of bothered and I'm guessing she feels the same way.

I felt the same way in anticipation of this event and was pleased that she
held up her end of the conversation in spite of the incredibly juvenile
antics of two of the other participants.

But I don't think this appearance should discourage Nanci. Intellectually,
she obviously stood head and shoulders above the others, and I wanted to
know more about her thoughts on the subjects that were covered and any
others for that matter. Our public discourse would be well-served if Nanci
and other thoughtful people were given access to the media that is now
accorded mostly to buffoons.

So, if Nanci's management is reading, I would certainly appreciate an
in-depth interview on, for example, the Charlie Rose show. Or maybe a
discussion on that show with other musicians (such as Lyle Lovett, Jim
Rooney, and EmmyLou, or hey. why not the BMO?) on the effect of music in
their lives, what its like to do music on the road for some many years, and
any other subjects they might want to cover. There is certainly enough
content in her songs to touch on a wide variety of topics.

-Kathy

Kathy Wallace [kathyw@walltech.com]          Wallace Technical Communications
Voice: 650-938-1352 Fax: 650-961-9151                 http://www.walltech.com

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Subject: Re: NN: Re: Nanci on PI
   Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 11:47:38 -0700
   From: Dan.Gerson@mckhboc.com

Kathy wrote:

>But I don't think this appearance should discourage Nanci.
>Intellectually, she obviously stood head and shoulders above the
>others, and I wanted to know more about her thoughts on the subjects
>that were covered and any others for that matter.

>So, if Nanci's management is reading, I would certainly appreciate an
>in-depth interview on, for example, the Charlie Rose show.

I do agree. I just meant participating in PI was a waste of time. I'd
love to hear Charlie Rose interview Nanci, or maybe, IMHO, the best
interviewer of all time, Terry Gross of NPR's "Fresh Aire".

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Subject: NN: Extra Ticket
   Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 12:08:17 -0400
   From: "susan lecates" (boo@zeus.chapel1.com>

Hello,
I have an extra ticket to see Nanci this Thursday, October 14, in Lexington,
Kentucky at the Kentucky Theatre. The show starts at 8 pm. I am selling it
at face value for $30. Let me know if you would like it. The seat is in row
K on the left side of the theatre.
Cheers,
Susan

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Subject: NN: re: Nanci on Austin City Limits
   Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 13:28:07 -0500
   From: "Siteman, Ed" (Ed.Siteman@COMPAQ.com>

Hello all -

First time poster, long time lurker -

Thanks to the notice from Tom O. I called the Paramount Theater in Austin
and got myself a ticket for Nanci on November 2nd, along with Don McLean.

Bill Page mentioned hearing at her Barnes and Noble chat that she would be
taping Austin City Limits in November.

Well, the person who took my ticket order wanted to warn me that there would
be cameras that may block part of the performance as this show is being
taped for Austin City Limits.  He hoped that I wouldn't mind. I don't think
I'll have a problem with that! (g>

As of Friday there were still tickets available for this small theater show.
After going ten years between my first two Nanci shows, in Boston and in
Austin, I'm very excited to be seeing her again so soon.

Thanks again to Tom O. - I wouldn't have heard of this show if he hadn't
posted his note.  I'll let y'all know how the show goes afterwards...Ed

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Subject: Re: NN: re: Nanci on Austin City Limits
   Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 14:46:52 EDT
   From: Brimpls@aol.com

Dear Ed,

The "Austin City Limits" show should be wonderful. I'm very glad you heard 
about it here and that you will be in the audience. 

In a Blue Moon Orchestra related note, I got to hear Lucinda Williams and her 
top-notch band play here in Minneapolis Saturday night. It was at First 
Avenue, the club made famous by Prince (think "Purple Rain"!). There are not 
many musicians who could entice me to stand up for four-plus hours, but 
Lucinda can! (First Ave. has almost no seats, and it was a sold out crowd. We 
arrived very early but still could only find a spot along a railing, so we 
stood--and leaned--all night, through the opening act and the break and then 
through Lucinda and band's fantastic show).

The BMO connection is that Lucinda has Fran Breen on drums. Great to see him, 
and of course I am always happy to see my guitar pal Kenny Vaughan. Playing 
with Lucinda gives him lots of good challenges. Kenny did some gorgeous 
playing and some traveling-elsewhere guitar solos during the performance. It 
was exciting to hear and see them. Lucinda played all the songs from "Car 
Wheels..." and quite a few others, plus a Howlin' Wolf tune. She is such a 
presence and I enjoyed this show a lot. It's the second time we've seen her 
here in Mpls. in three months, as she opened for Tom Petty in August. That 
was a good show, but this show was unforgettable. 

Looks like she's on the road for another month at least. Catch her show if 
you can, it's a great band and her songs are gems, as most of you already 
know.

Sabrina in Mpls.

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Subject: NN: Recommendation
   Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:59:21 -0500
   From: Ed Maier (eddie@flash.net>

Poking through the used CDs I came across Dave Alvin's *Blackjack
David*. This is some really good stuff; kind of a blend of folk,
country, and blues. I highly recommend it.

One nice thing about used CD shops is that many of them have a
rack of CD players with headphones so you can sample your selection
before you buy it.

Eddie

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Subject: Re: Revisited
   Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:19:14 -0700
   From: "Susan Krauss" (susankrauss@earthlink.net>

I picked up a copy of Revisited yesterday (they have a bunch at Down Home
Records in El Cerrito, CA if anyone really wants one -
http://www.downhomemusic.com).  All I can say is Oy Vey.  The first mix gave
me a headache.  I'm plodding through but this is weird.

Susan
mailto:susankrauss@earthlink.net

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Subject: Duets and Nanci Griffith and Friends
   Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 18:07:57 +0100
   From: "Claire Mortlock" (blue.meanies@ukgateway.net>

Hi

Hope we're still thinking duets.  I know that Paul McCartney has been
suggested before, but my choice of songs (after careful consideration) for
re-recording as proper duets (not just backing vocals) are:

Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey (can't wait for the 'hands across the water'
bit!)
Live and Let Die
London Town
Coming Up

Anyone else have any ideas for a complete Macca/Nanci album??

Also, I notice in the UK Radio Times in the satellite listings a channel
called Performance which has listed a 30min programme called Nanci Griffith
and Friends.  It is apparently a 7 part series.  Anyone in the UK know if
this is satellite/cable/digital, and, more to the point, been taping this
and is feeling generous of spirit?  Any info would be nice as I don't
remember seeing it mentioned on Nanci Net.

Back to lurkdom

Claire

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Subject: Politically Incorrect
   Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 16:35:31 EDT
   From: JC2TEACH@aol.com

Oh my, I can't believe I missed it!  Did anyone tape it by any chance.  If 
so, I would be extremely appreciative for a copy.  I would send a tape if 
someone would be willing to tape it for me.  PI is one of my favorite shows, 
and I always have said how much I would love to see Nanci on it.  I'll kep my 
fingers crossed.
Janet in NC

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