// This is a fairly long digest. We discuss another Griffith,
// LOTB tracks, a nanci newsgroup, and other items. 
// Enjoy...[BP]

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Subject: NN: TTFN
   From: kaleepi@earthlink.net

Wanted to wish all y'all a very happy and prosperous new year.  I'm
going to Berlin for five weeks with my theatre company, so will have to
come off the list until I get back.

Anybody know if Nanci's slated to play in Germany soon?

Karen Lee


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Subject: NN: It's an omen
   From: "Steve Goldberger" (steve@aldgategroup.com>

Happy new year, gang.

I've just finished playing new year's eve and the rest of the weekend at the
historic Angel Inn in Niagara-on-the-Lake, Ontario.  My first full gig back
after a brief hiatus for a wee little heart surgery.

It is now after 3 am and I am enjoying some quiet time after the madness.  I
am reflecting back on a memorable weekend and start of a new new year.  I
have to share with you how last night a mystical sort of thing happened.

First, an older local fellow asked if he could get up and sing a song.  He
did a few Johnny Cash numbers including  "I Still Miss Someone".  I played
that song many years ago in one of my first bands and always loved it.

Then on our break a young fellow (who happened to be visiting from Labrador)
got up and sang "Speed of the sound of Loneliness".  I had to get up there
and accompany him, as I just love that one too.   He did such a good job I
suggested he do another one, and he said, "How about an Ian Tyson song?"  I
requested "Summer Wages" which he did quite well.

I can't believe it.  Three songs by strangers in one night that all happen
to be on the OVOR 1 & 2 albums.  It must be some kind of omen. (or otoman?)
Coincidence? or has Nanci has taken subliminal control of all.  Hmm.  The
folk revival lives!

Steve (overtired and should be asleep by now)  Goldberger
Music Pages: http://www.aldgategroup.com/stevesbands.html
Heart Surgery Pages:
http://www.aldgategroup.com/BumTickerPages/BumtickerHomePage1.htm

Day Job Pages: http://www.aldgategroup.com

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Subject: NN: Top Artists
   From: Bell/Wrightson (onemansmusic@mindspring.com>

This was on the Folk DJ list this morning.  Thought you might find a
friend up there near the top.  I sent the whole list in case you are
looking for ways to spend that Xmas cash :-).

The Folk DJ list isn't all that big a group, and the biggest radio
stations playing people like Nanci are not represented on the
list....but I bet it is a pretty accurate sample.

Cheers,

Sarah

TOP ARTISTS OF 1998
Compiled by Richard Gillmann from FOLKDJ-L radio playlists
Based on 104920 airplays.

1. John Gorka (449)
2. Dar Williams (411)
3. Bob Dylan (372)
4. Nanci Griffith (371)
5. Greg Brown (355)
6. Salamander Crossing (345)
7. Bill Monroe (344)
8. Lucinda Williams (335)
9. Gillian Welch (287)
10. Emmylou Harris (286)
11. Pete Seeger (269)
12. Chuck Brodsky (253)
12. Ellis Paul (253)
14. John McCutcheon (252)
15. Laurie Lewis (250)
16. Carrie Newcomer (245)
17. Dar Williams, Lucy Kaplansky And Richard Shindell (242)
17. Rachel Bissex (242)
19. Blue Highway (241)
20. Vance Gilbert (239)
21. Joan Baez (237)
22. Kate Campbell (236)
23. Lyle Lovett (235)
24. Pierce Pettis (234)
25. Brooks Williams (227)
26. Bill Staines (224)
27. Susan Werner (223)
28. Richard Shindell (222)
29. Cheryl Wheeler (220)
30. Cosy Sheridan (216)

// Folks, in the interest of digest space I deleted the remaining 170 
// names. If you'd like the rest of the list, email me PRIVATELY...BP


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Subject: NN: Grace Griffith?
   From: David Gilbert (dgilbert@mindspring.com>

I was browsing through the folk music section at Media Play here in
Atlanta and found a CD by an artist named Grace Griffith.  It was
sitting in front of Nanci's OV2.  At first glance I thought the title of
the cd was Grace (which it is) and the artist was Nanci.  The picture on
the front had similar features as Nanci so it was an honest mistake.
The back cover has a full color/body shot of Grace and again shows
similar features to Nanci.

Does anyone know anything about Grace Griffith?  Is there a relationship
to Nanci that I haven't read about?

The music has a Irish/Celtic touch to it, and the vocals are wonderful.
From the dates on the cd it looks like it was originally released in
1993 and re-released in 1996.

Just curious....in chilly Hot'Lanta....
David Gilbert

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Subject: NN: Re: Grace Griffith?
   From: "Hans Janssen" (hjanssen@mail.dotcom.fr>

These search engines are so handy, just typed in grace griffith and there
was this page: http://www.loworbit.com/grace/

And indeed when you are browsing through CDs you could be easily be mistaken
by the photo.

I have the same with a big poster hanging in several Dutch CD shops. On this
poster is a Dutch singer Trijntje Oosterhuis and the photos is similar to
one of Nanci from a few years back, but when you look good it is clear it's
not Nanci, but in a glimse my first impression is always: Nanci.


met vriendelijke groeten,

Hans Janssen.

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Subject: NN: alt.fan.nanci-griffith
   From: "Matthew Bloomfield" (mailm@tthewb.u-net.com>

This newsgroup has just been added to my ISPs grouplist and seems to
be fairly new.  Get all headers only picked up 10 new messages.

If it is new it might turn out to be a further source of useful
information for Nanci fans.  If its old then its too quiet and could
do with some more input.  

Maybe I'll see you there.

Matt

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Subject: Re: NN: alt.fan.nanci-griffith
   From: Ron Crain (ron@arken.net>

>This newsgroup has just been added to my ISPs grouplist and seems to
>be fairly new.  Get all headers only picked up 10 new messages.

Matt,

It's an old newsgroup without much action - your ISP must have just picked
it up recently.


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Subject: Re: NN: alt.fan.nanci-griffith
   From: "Matthew Bloomfield" (mailm@tthewb.u-net.com>

Ron wrote:

> It's an old newsgroup without much action - your ISP must have just picked
> it up recently.

Thanks for that, I was under the impression that carrying a full
newsfeed meant that all groups were available and all new newsgroups
were automatically added.  Obviously not.

Still it's nice to see an alt.fan.nanci-griffith and I'll be staying
subscribed for a while yet just to see what occurs. 


Matt


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Subject: Re: NN: alt.fan.nanci-griffith
   From: esa.toivonen@sci.fi (Esa Toivonen)

You can find previous posts to the Nanci-ng at least of the last year or
so from the DejaNews news-archive. The URL-address below gives you a
direct access to a search result of about 200 alt.fan.nanci-griffith
articles (although it says there is 500). Just click the url or copy it
and paste on your browser:

http://x4.dejanews.com/dnquery.xp?QRY=alt.fan.nanci-griffith&DBS=1&ST=PS
&defaultOp=AND&LNG=ALL&format=threaded&showsort=date&maxhits=100&subject
s=&groups=alt.fan.nanci-griffith&authors=&fromdate=Jan+1+1996&todate=Dec
+31+1998
-- 
Esa
Finland

// that URL probably won't work with a simple mouse click...it didn't
// for me...just go to DejaNews [BP]
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Subject: NN: Hi ... and help with my song
   From: "john hawkins" (johnhawkins@hotmail.com>

Hi.  I'm one of those lurkers, sitting in my darkened room, evesdropping 
on your conversations for the past few months.  I thought I'd start the 
New Year with a loud and boisterous "Hello" and begin a quest that I 
have contemplated for a while:

I remember my first hearing of a Nanci song ... several years ago ...  
driving my car down the street like any other day ... then "Love at the 
Five and Dime" came on ... never heard it or Nanci before ... had to 
pull my car over so that I could concentrate on this beautiful gift .. 
have since bought every CD she has ... she's still one of my favourites.

Now for my "quest":  several years ago I wrote a "poem" that, recently, 
a friend put to music ... it's about abandoned dreams ... and we are 
getting a RAVE response ... people crying in my living room ... 

Anyway, I want to send it to Nanci and to Emmylou because (a) I admire 
them immensely, and (b) I think it's the kind of song they might be 
interested in.

Does anyone know how I send it to each of these women?  Any leads, 
suggestions, etc. will be appreciated.

John Hawkins
Vancouver, BC


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Subject: NN: re:guitar,Last of True Believers
   From: Bob Riegner (rg48@yahoo.com>

Hi gang,

Thanks to those who responded to my question on the worth of my 1971
Martin D-18 (of course to me its priceless).  I'll probably end up
going to the guitar shop here in Mt. Vernon, OH and have it appraised 
for insurance purposes.

Regarding the defective copies of "Lone Star State of Mind," my copy
was fine (purchased about 9 years ago.  But did anyone else get a copy
of "Last of the True Believers" with the songs in the wrong order,
"Working Girl is the first song (actually if it was an L.P.
side one and side two are reversed)  any others like
that out there or do I have a collectors item?

The state of Ohio is snowed in right now--but we are
basking in the joy of Ohio State ending the season beating Michigan
and then winning the Sugar Bowl January 1st!

Everyone tske care.

Bob Riegner


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Subject: Re: NN: re:guitar,Last of True Believers
   From: PRobin5478@aol.com

Dear Bob and list --

I also have an out-of-order LAST OF THE TRUE BELIEVERS ... and it bugs the
hell out of me every time I play it.

Sorry, no collector's item.

Happy New Year everyone.

Peter in SoCal

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Subject: Re: NN: re:guitar,Last of True Believers
   From: RonHennesy@aol.com

Hi Bob!

Like you, I've had no problems playing my CD of "Lone Star State of Mind."

As with you again, on my copy of the album "The Last of the True Believers"
the songs are listed in the wrong order.  My CD starts with the hilariously
disreputable "Lookin' for the Time (Workin' Girl)" and ends with the
exhilarating bluegrass-flavored "Banks of the Pontchartrain."  But the printed
listing runs from "The Last to the True Believers" to "The Wing and the
Wheel."
  
Of course this is a minor glitch, and doesn't at all hinder my enjoyment of
one of my all-time favorite Nanci albums.

Happy New Year to all!

Ron Hennessy

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Subject: NN: Last of the True Believers
   From: "Devin Bramblett" (bramblett@jcn1.com>

   So is my copy of TLOTTB a collector's item because all the songs are
listed in the CORRECT order? :)
Happy New Year!

Devin


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Subject: Re: NN: re:guitar,Last of True Believers
   From: MISTERCD@webtv.net (SID PORTER)

    I have LOTTB on LP and CD.  The LP runs from "True Believers" to
"Wing & Wheel", while the CD is "Lookin' For The Time" to
"Pontchartrain".  This is the way they are listed on the liner notes and
the way they appear on the LP/CD.  How many different variations are we
looking at?  Does anyone have the cassette?

Sid "Back to work today" Porter


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Subject: NN: Question
   From: Little (dlittle032@earthlink.net>

   I picked up a used Cd today called "The Folk Scene Collection," a
collection from a radio station in LA called FolkScene on KPFK released 
in 1998.  Iris, Dar, the McGarrigles, Maura O'Connell, Mary Black, Tish 
Hinojosa, Richard Thompson, John Gorka, Bruce Cockburn and more have songs 
on this CD.  
   My question is who are David Wilcox, Lowen & Navarro, and Dillon
O'Brian?  Are they as wonderful as they sound live on this collection?

   Thanks!

Donna

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Subject: NN: Re: Question
   From: "Bunny Hutchinson" (cotntail@ewol.com>

Donna asked...
"My question is who are David Wilcox......?"

Hi All,

Do yourself a really big favor and run down to the music store and buy all the
David Wilcox CD's that you can. That is to say, buy the American David Wilcox.
There is apparently a Canadian DW....but that is not the one on your
compilation CD.

David Wilcox is a superlative singer/songwriter who has heart, courage,
intelligence, wit and an amazing talent.  Innovative tunings on acoustic
guitar and story telling are some of the things that set David Wilcox as a
standout in the folk community. But if you ask a DW fan why they follow this
artist they will tell you that it's his lyrics that keep them listening.

Here are some of DW sites to whet your appetite.

http://www.davidwilcox.com/
http://peloton.physics.montana.edu/brett/wilcox.html
http://cybercity.piedmont.net/~dennis/dw-mar98/

By far, the best DW experience is to see him perform live, and with a new
album coming out in February there should be lots of opportunities to catch a
concert.

Hope this helps...
Bunny "How Did You Find Me Here" Hutchinson
cotntail@ewol.com
http://www.ewol.com/cotntail

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Subject: Re: NN: Question
   From: MISTERCD@webtv.net (SID PORTER)

     I have 4 David Wilcox CD's; "How Did You Find Me Here", "Home
Again", "Big Horizon", and "East Asheville Hardware / Live".  They are
all wonderful!  You must be careful, however, there is another artist
named David Wilcox out there.  He is completely different and I
personally did not care for him at all.

Best wishes,
Sid Porter

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Subject: NN: Texas Monthly -- get your copy before they're gone
   From: Catelaw@aol.com

New Year's good wishes to all and happy anniversary to Bill and Dawn-Marie.

Having just returned from the incomparable Texas hill country, Andy D.'s
Galveston, and the surrounding Gulf Coast plains (my spur-of-the-moment,
solitary escape there with the notion of catching Jerry Jeff at the Galveston
Opera House derailed by an untimely bout with the flu), I was intrigued on my
return by the email mentioning the Texas Monthly article.  I still get Texas
Monthly, though I rarely have time to read it, but do enjoy the January "Bum
Steer Awards" issue.  Since the writer noted that the article was about "THE
LETTER," I was fully prepared to cancel my subscription immediately,
anticipating that Ms. Nanci had been made a 1998 recipient.  She had not.

The article, written by Michael Hall and titled "You Can't Go Home Again," is
a beautifully designed full-length feature with two stunning full page studio
photographs and two smaller insets, one of N's ACL debut and one of her as a
two-year-old with sister Mikki and brother Robert.  Aside from the reportage,
I mention these visual details because even if the article was not too long to
reproduce in this format, I think it might be a mistake to merely read the
text without considering it in the context of the artistic care devoted to its
layout.

Notably, she is described throughout as a folksinger.

However, TM isn't shy about printing hard comments and the article contains
both high praise from her admirers and ruthless treason and sedition from her
detractors. Some of the comments on the negative side will no doubt inflame
those of us who are what Kenn Lippert (where is he, anyway?) might describe as
YASENFs -- Yet Another Starry-Eyed Nanci Fan, and the most sensitive are
hereby forewarned...But I'm a devout YASENF and have read it twice and
survived, although there is much in its criticism with which I disagree
stringently and some that is, at best, uncharitable.   While it is indeed set
in the context of THE LETTER, Nanci's own comments and insights (and those
photographs) are worth the price.  And in reality, the points raised by the
writer, both good and ill, have most all been made in this forum over the past
year.  All told, an interesting piece of Griffology for your collections.

The thesis:

"How could one person, a folksinger, provoke such extreme reactions?  Clues
could be found in the letter and the life that led to its writing.  Critics
figured the whole thing had something to do with the mixed reviews of
Griffith's last album, Other Voices, Too (A Trip Back to Bountiful).  Fans
speculated that it had something to do with rumors that she is sick.  Everyone
wondered:  Is she okay?  The short answer is yes, but the longer one is more
complicated."

Reader services at TM can be accessed at:
http://www.texasmonthly.com/mag/services/

Cate,"sprinting like a new spring doe" because it's so danged cold, in Atlanta
 

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Subject: NN: Top 200
   From: "Robert Pugsley" (RMP6@leicester.ac.uk>

Dear all,

Happy New Year!

Question: How many times have you heard that Prince record already?  Am I
going to be bored with that by the
end of the year...and how much more rich is  The Artist Formerly Etc. going to
be?

Anyway, enough of this.  I've had a few enquiries (inquiries?) about the full
NN top ten list so just to let you know it is very nearly finished.  It took
me a lot longer than I thought it would and I have been very very busy over
the last couple of weeks.  But I will be sending it over to the Peetes
tomorrow, it's quite a list...

all the best,

Robert

(p.s. anyone who hasn't received a tape from me who thinks
they should have, please let me know I got a bit confused!)


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Subject: NN: re:Lee Satterfield
   From: Bob Riegner (rg48@yahoo.com>

Hello fellow Nanci Nutters (oops I suppose that should be Nanci Netters)

Anyway.  I am really impressed by Lee Satterfield of The Blue Moon Orchestra. 
In the one Nanci concert I've
had the pleasure of seeing, Lee was tremendous.  She even did one of her 'own'
songs solo and was great. Does anyone know any information about her?  Does
she have any albums of her own out?  Where did she come from? etc. Thanks.

Bob Riegner


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Subject: NN: No Grammy for Nanci
   From: ferg@world.std.com (Mark E Ferguson)

Here are the nominees for Best Contemporary Folk Album:
   
   Mermaid Avenue 
   Billy Bragg & Wilco
   
   El Corazon   
   Steve Earle
   
   Spyboy 
   Emmylou Harris  

   Step Inside This House 
   Lyle Lovett
   
   Car Wheels On A Gravel Road 
   Lucinda Williams


Go Lucinda!  :-)

Mark Ferguson
Austin, Texas
http://www.jump.net/~ferg/

P.S.  *Andy* Griffith was nominated in a Gospel category, if that's any
consolation.  ;-)

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Subject: NN: Re: No Grammy for Nanci
   From: "Shawn Kimbro" (skimbro@bhset.org>

Hi Folkas,

Mark clued us in on the contemporary folk nominees.  No
surprises there for me.  Here are a few other highlights I
found interesting:

- Emmylou Harris was nominated for Best Female Country Vocal Performance for
the song "Love Still Remains" on Treasures Left Behind.

- BR549 got a long-overdue nomination as did the Mavericks for Best Country
Performance by a Group.

- All the nominees for Country Instrumental Performance are superb, except
that none of them are performing country: (Doc & Merle Watson, Jerry Douglas &
Bela Fleck, Randy Scruggs & Earl Scruggs, Ricky Skaggs.)

- Bob Dylan was nominated for Best Country Song for performing a Garth Brooks
cover. (Sigh, what is the world
coming to?>

- Dixie Chicks are up for Best Country Album and some more stuff.

- Nashville Bluegrass Band nominated along with Ralph Stanley, Ricky Skaggs,
Doc & Merle, and Jim & Jesse for best bluegrass.

- Keb Mo up for Contemporary Blues.

- Ramblin' Jack, The Chieftains (again), Mike Seeger, Norman Blake, and Greg
Brown for Traditional Folk.

- John McCutcheon goes against the Muppets for best kids disc.

- Jimmy Carter (my hero) nominated for Best Spoken Word Album.

- Seinfield battles Foxworthy in the comedy category.

- Bela Fleck vs Wynton Marsalis for Best Instrumental Composition.

- The Hank Williams box got lots of nominations for everything but the music.

- I didn't see Roy's name on the list for Best Remix Producers, maybe next
year?

- There's a category for Best Polka Album?!!

Warm Regards,
-Shawn



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