NanciNet Digest 2-22-99
// okay, so tonight we get some Nanci content, in the guise of a
// review and our reactions to it. A little on the BBC2, on ACL,
// and on several other singers.
// And the date and place are set for a NanciNet wedding!
// Enjoy...[BP]
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Subject: NN: negative review of OVOR II in Oyster Boy Review
From: David Barnett (barnett@uic.edu>
Hi,
I'm de-lurking here to note that I just read a review by Kevin
McGowin of "Other Voices, Other Rooms II" in the on-line OYSTER BOY
REVIEW (Issue 10), January/March 1999. This review is extremely
negative (think of negative comments on this list about the album
and multiply by a factor of 10). If you don't want to read a
Nanci-bashing, don't click on the link to the review:
http://www.levee67.com/obr/10/mcgowin-griffith.html.
I won't repost the review here due to copyright considerations. I
found the review to be overly critical, harsh and full of cheap
shots. OVOR II is far from my favorite Nanci release but in no way
does it deserve the pounding Mr. McGowan offers in his review.
Mr. McGowan, who happens to be a contributing editor of the OBR,
lives in Gainesville, Florida, where he earned an MFA from the
University of Florida and teaches The Great American Novel for the
Department of English at UF.
I haven't decided what to write to him about my reactions to his
review but if any of you are feeling more inspired today, here's his
email address: kmcgowin@grove.ufl.edu
Dave
n.p. 1995 Highlights Kerrville Folk Festival
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Subject: Re: NN: negative review of OVOR II in Oyster Boy Review
From: Reid Mitchell (o416@erols.com>
Well my Big Question is where McGowin went to hear the "original" of
Stephen Foster's "Hard Times COme Again No More."
Reid
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Subject: Re: NN: negative review of OVOR II in Oyster Boy Review
From: Betsy Beacom (ecb29@pantheon.yale.edu>
David,
Ouch! I just read the review, and it's pretty darned nasty, and it gets
personal besides. However, it seems to me that the nastiness of McGowin's
tone is about more than his dislike of this album. Such remarks as "she
reminds me of various Junior League women my mother hung out with who
deigned to do some service work at the Salvation Army once in a while
before going back home to eat off the blue-willow china" make me think this
guy has an ax to grind. He is suggesting that Nanci shouldn't sing about
pain and loss because, according to him, what could she possibly know about
such things. This guy writes fiction? Has he ever heard of *empathy* or
*imagination*??
This review is an insult not only to Nanci but also to the readers of
Oyster Boy Review.
Betsy
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Subject: Re: NN: negative review of OVOR II in Oyster Boy Review
From: MAUDEENW@aol.com
Who is McGowin and just what are his credentials?? Why does he call himself
Oyster Boy? (I could guess). It seem he's dealing with a bunch of baggage
here and Nanci is the brunt of his diatribe. McGowin appears to have a bit of
trouble dealing with the women in his life due to the condescending attitude
regarding the Junior League as well as the pot shot he's taken at Nanci in the
last line. Nearly as offensive is his use of profanity in order to make his
point. Seems McGowin is a rather angry person. Just glad he's not a friend
of mine.
~Maudeen
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Subject: NN: RE: negative review of OVOR II in Oyster Boy Review
From: "Thomas, Tasha" (TThomas@vilcom.com>
Jeez, you're not kidding. This review is brutal, but what makes the review
offensive to me is that every criticism Mr. McGowin makes is on a personal
level, not a professional one. I'm not opposed to inserting a good expletive
into conversation now and then, but what's with all the f*cks and g*dd*mns
in a music review?
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Subject: NN: Negative review of OVOR 11 in Oyster Bay Review
From: "Aquarian Resourses" (Aquarian@1acc.com>
I agree with the other posters who noted McGowin's review sometimes dealt with
personal stuff, but for me the worst comment went like this "While Nanci sings
it(Canadian Whiskey) without a shadow of realization that she doesn't know
f__ing Canadian whiskey,or the pain and loss and injustice reflected in the
originals of any of the other songs here, either. She might know a third glass
of chablis after dinner,which she was giddy on when she decided to make this
album and thought she could do the songs justice."
What is this guys agenda? This is the most vicious judgemental review I can
remember reading in a long time. I'm going to E_Mail him and ask how the heck
does he know what Nanci knows and doesn't know.
Joe Werfelman
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Subject: NN: Aus. Ticket location for 2/23 sale
From: Thomas (onesmoothsailor@yahoo.com>
Hi Nanci Netters!
This is the email address I use when I am at work.
Some of y'all wrote me asking about the location of
where to go in person to buy the tickets for the
Austin show. The location to go to is 11th Street
and Red River at the Austin Symphony offices there.
Once again, the tickets for the May 24th Nanci show in
Austin go on sale Tuesday 2/23/99 at 9:00 a.m. I will
be down there waiting for them to open to buy my
tickets! See you there!!
For those of you who want to or have to buy them over
the phone you can call 888-4MAESTRO.
As for my offer to trade tickets for a tape of the
"One Fair Summer's Evening" concert, that is already
setup. Thank you to all of you that responded to my
request for that trade.
TomO
toverton@tpoint.net
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Subject: NN: Bill Staines
From: "Kathie Bargiel" (Kbarge@wans.net>
Hi NNer's
I had the opportunity to see Bill Staines last Saturday (my birthday).
He played at a church in Evanston, IL. I had the pleasure of seeing him in
this same church several years ago before I had even heard of him or his
music. It was time for a repeat performance. He has never let down the
audience. He did sing Roseville Fair, a tune that Nanci has sung a lot. I
enjoyed the concert, and must admit, he does have a mellowing affect on
people. The audience was invited to sing along on his songs. He asked for
requests and spun a few yarns. All in all a great evening. I'd recommend him
live and in person to anyone. I also must admit that I was green with envy
when he told that he has visited Alaska every year since 1981. I tumbled
over on that because Alaska is my dream. No, not from a cruise ship, on the
ground with tent and sleeping bag.
On another note.... Joe and I have set a wedding date. July 31, 1999, in
Monterey, CA. with our reception outdoors in Carmel Valley. (I still want to
elope!) All in all it should be a nice wedding. Both of my children are
going to fly in for it, so I'm thrilled. More information will be made
available as the plans are finalized.
Thanks, Bill, for the review of Lucy, I have tickets to see her next
month in Chicago. I can't wait. It sounds like a good show.
Kathie :)
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Subject: NN: Tanya Savory
From: John Edward Graveling (kai21@dial.pipex.com>
It's interesting to me that there has been all this talk recently about
Tanya Savory. I have only heard snatches of her music, but when I met
Lisa in the summer she talked about how some of 'the crowd' here on NN
were big fans, and yet she couldn't find any of her cd's in the stores.
While browsing around Nashville I found one of them and mailed it up to
Lisa. A few weeks later I asked for her comments, and well, I could never
speak for the eloquent Professor of English, so I wonder if I can entice
her out of her shell to add a few comments, she's not normally so
reticent about these matters.
John "not from Kentucky" Graveling.
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Subject: NN: Townes van Zandt
From: Jan Hassebroek (jan.hassebroek@sympatico.ca>
Last Friday, Feb 19, I was so fortunate to watch a one-hour segment
of the Austin City Limits program coming to my area through a Buffalo-
station (I live in Canada). I seldom 'miss' my ACL programs on fridays
but my VCR doesn't always cooperate........
Did anyone record this program, a memorial tribute to Townes that in-
cluded Nanci, James Hooker, EmmyLou Harris, Willie Nelson and many,
many more! I would love to have a copy of that recording, willing to
pay for it or donate on someone's behalf to a good cause!
Oh BTW, I did buy a new VCR on saturday......this was not going to
happen again! Thanks beforehand/JAN in St.Catharines, Ontario, Canada!
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Subject: NN: Kimberly M'Carver
From: John Edward Graveling (kai21@dial.pipex.com>
I've just been trawling through my record collection, and dug up a
couple of oldies to play. I chose 1990's "Breathe The Moonlight", and
1994's "Inherited Road", both by Kimberly M'Carver. It had been a long
time since I had played either of them, and, wow, they are really good
records. Kimberly came across, at the time, and nothing has changed,
somewhere between Nanci and Tish Hinojosa, no bad thing. She wrote all
her own songs and these were two records that should have put her on the
road to success. But, just like her Texan male counter-parts she seems to
have missed the boat to large scale, commercial success. My question is,
what has happened to Kimberly in the years since 1994? Does she still
play the Texas bars, her first cd had her pictured outside Anderson Fair,
Houston ("One Fair Summer Evening"). Comments please!!!!!!
John "trying to catch up" Graveling
// I'm just trying to figure out how John has time to go through his
// collection for oldies, as many CDs as he buys in a year! [BP] :)
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Subject: NN: The BBC-a graphic description
From: "jenny.frog" (jenny.frog@virgin.net>
Guys and Guyesses,
IMHO, there is just not being enough said about the concert on
BBC2!!!!!!!:)
If I had had time on friday night after the show i would have given you
every detail, that's the kind of mood it put me in. but, you were
saved--until now!!!
The BBC took most of the Other Voices Too songs from the performance,
along with dolores keane's song, 'You will never be the sun', odetta's
'Kum Bay Ya', Tom and Nanci's 'Outbound Plane' and, of course, 'Trouble
in The Fields' and 'It's a Hard Life' and 'Road to Aberdeen'.
It all kicked off with 'Wall of death', then the camera cut to an
interview with Nanci, wearing the usually greyish black cardi and grey
scarf and her (highly cool) glasses. she explained how she began writing
songs and the writing of 'Trouble in the Fields', then they went back to
the performance. The show ran basically that way, including nanci
praising tom for recording the song 'If i Were a child' and laughing
that she herself could no longer remember it!! During these interludes
in a hotel room somewhere in glasgow, she expanded on the on-stage
banter and at the very end, she cried as she spoke about writing 'Road
to Aberdeen' here in Scotland. I don't know whether it is being a scot
as well as being an aNGel fan, but i found that very moving myself. she
dedicated teh song onstage to 'My mom and Dad' with a catch in her
throat. funny, but in my state of elation i enter at nanci shows, i
don't remeber that bit.
It was amazing to be taken back there for an hour. and i can go back
whenever i want, but it's still not the same as the real thing. if i
don't get to see nanci live soon, i think i may die!! when i win the
lottery i'll be in austin, georgia and houston...
Anyway, i digress. In the 24hrs that followed i managed to fit in 3
viewings of the concert around, going out for dinner adn playing in
orchestra for 6hrs, that's hwo good it was!!
so, if you were in england that's what you missed. guess you're going to
hold me solely responsible for copying all the vids now, right???? sure,
fair enough, does anyone have a copy of that rare nanci performances
video, from a few years ago they'd like to swap???
OK, that's all folks,
luv jenny, *official graphic descriptor*
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Subject: NN: Lone Star state of mind brought to a rainy country
From: "jenny.frog" (jenny.frog@virgin.net>
Hi again,
i forgot to mention something in my post, my folks were at a ceilidh on
friday night and teh band began with 'Lone Star State of Mind', pretty
cool, huh?? considering that these are 2 guys from a small,
back-of-the-woods hamlet in deepst darkest scotlad, a thousand miles or
more from Texas.
luv, jenny, again
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Subject: NN: Welch and Rawlings
From: Shawn Kimbro (kimbro@planetc.com>
Hey Y'all,
Was I the only one that caught Gillian and Dave on TNN's "Live at the
Grand Ole Opry" last night? Yup, introduced by Porter Waggoner himself,
they were led on stage by Emmylou Harris who performed two songs with
them. The first was Ralph Stanley's "Darkest Hour is Just Before Dawn"
and they followed it with "Rock of Ages" from their last album. Emmylou
danced to Gillian's clawhammer banjo throughout the entire song. I
can't imagine any more of a contrast than that of Porter's garish
glitter and rhinestones and Dave and Gillian's undertaker outfits. The
crowd seemed very receptive and Emmylou made some nice comments about
their songwriting and said they provide inspiration for her.
.---. ___________
|===| ////SEE/////\ Warm Regards,
| ////ROCK////[]\ -Shawn
| ////CITY////|__|\
| ^|^^^^^^^^^^| | "Years go by and everything changes
| | | | But nothing does" -Kate Campbell
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http://www.geocities.com/~trailzzone
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Subject: NN: Re: Nanci on BBC
From: "Hans Janssen" (hjanssen@mail.dotcom.fr>
James Tracey wrote:
>Don't you wish you were Scottish?
No, I don't want to be Scottish.
>Not only will we have a Scottish Parliament this year (at last) but we had
>an hour of Nanci live on the BBC tonight, recorded on the OV,Too tour...I
>think I have died and have gone to heaven - it was wonderful - no, it was
>heavenly...........
Can you imagine how we felt that two evenings in the Barbican in November?
I listen to the CDr from the concert several times a week.
And I hope to get the videotape sometime next week!
met vriendelijke groeten,
Hans Janssen.
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Subject: NN: Re: Thinkin caps/Blue Taylor?
From: GregS2@aol.com
In a message dated 2/19/99 3:55:46 PM, Panchyshyn,Roman writes:
((I have a music lyric question. I vaguely remember a song from back in the
70's, I think, whose lyrics went something along this line:
"Funny how the circle is a wheel, and it can steal someone who is a friend"
Anyone out there have a clue as to what song this is? For some reason the
Nitty Gritty Dirt Band comes to mind, but I can't associate these lyrics
with any title.>>
I had to go listen to one of my favorite old LPs to verify it, but the song is
Gene Clark's "Full Circle" from the 1973 Byrds reunion album. Its an excellent
collection of songs from the original Byrds (Gene Clark, Chris Hillman, David
Crosby, Roger McGuinn and Micheal Clarke) played mostly on acoustics. Thanks
for getting me to pull it out & listen to it again.
On another note... Gregor mentioned in his review of Nanci/Crickets that the
only guitar she played was her blue Taylor. Now I've not been keeping up with
the NN for a couple weeks, but has she abandoned her "signature" 512NG
sunburst Taylor???
Proud owner of a 512NG,
Greg St. Martin
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Subject: Re: NN: Re: Thinkin caps/Blue Taylor?
From: bluez (bluez@bellsouth.net>
Hi Netters...
> On another note... Gregor mentioned in his review of Nanci/Crickets that the
> only guitar she played was her blue Taylor. Now I've not been keeping up with
> the NN for a couple weeks, but has she abandoned her "signature" 512NG
> sunburst Taylor???
Betcha it was that baby blue STRAT...? This was the Crickets, ya know...? Or
maybe the reissue Sunburst Strat that Sonny Curtis gave Nanci during the Blue
Roses Tour? I know there are several more guitar techs in the audience than
me...? Help with this one?
Cheers Mates,
Bob McClellan ( startin' an indie label in Florida )
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Subject: NN: Dolly, Linda and Emmylou
From: nmrs@freeway.net
My husband just bought Trio II. Somehow we never got Trio I but I love
this new one. These harmonies are heavenly...I was a big Linda Ronstadt
fan years ago and currently am listening to Spyboy all the time so this
is a welcome treat. Something had to get me away from Cry 3! Which is
what got me away from Other Voices 2.
When I like something, I like something.
Right now I wish I lived in the UK to see these shows with Nanci and
whoever else.
I would love to see her in person because ultimately she is my favorite.
Anne
// Scott Simon interviewed the trio on last Saturday's Weekend Edition
// on NPR...it certainly made me want to go buy the CD! [BP]
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Subject: NN: Caren Armstrong
From: "Miller, Tracy (ICD - SF)" (TMiller@exchange.ml.com>
Hi,
I too am new to the NanciNet. I've been a fan of Nanci's for over 15 years and
have seen her live MANY times (between 30 and 35 times.) I am finding that the
NanciNet is a great source for learning about other singer/songwriters. I am
always looking for new acoustic music to listen to. Just my 2 cents....
Caren Armstrong....
She is a singer/songwriter from the San Francisco Bay Area. It's tough to put
her music into one category. Her music is very diverse....folk, blues, jazz
and a hint of country with a sound all her own (although I do hear a bit of
Nanci in some of her songs). Caren has a web page on the www.songs.com site.
(I highly recommend her "My Own Voice" album. She puts on a very energetic and
entertaining live show.
Tracy
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Subject: NN: A late top ten
From: Steve Moore (smoore@ModaCAD.com>
Hi, I have been lurking for awhile. I am a member of the Steve Earle list
as well which many of you would like if you don't already s*bscr*be.
Anyhoo, we all rated our year's favorite albums. I thought this would be
fun on this list so here goes my 1998 top ten.
1. Lucinda Williams, Car Wheels on a Gravel Road
2. Lyle Lovett, Step Inside This House
3. Wilco & Billy Bragg, Mermaind Ave. (Woodie Guthrie tribute)
4. Nanci Griffith, Other Voices Too
5. Richard Buckner, Since
6. Son Volt, Wide Swing Tremelo
7. Whiskeytown, Faithless Street Re-release
8. the Pinetops, Above the Ground and Vertical
9. Gillian Welch, Hell Among the Yearlings
10. Emmylou Harris, Spyboy
Song of the year: Nanci Griffith and crew cover "Desperados Waiting on a
Train"
Most anticipated album of '99: Steve Earle and Del McCroury Band "The
Mountain"
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Subject: NN: Readers Fight Back!
From: Rob Remig (rob.remig@psinet.com>
After an uncomplimentary article about Nanci titled, "You Can't Go Home
Again," which appeared in the January 1999 issue of "Texas Monthly" magazine,
readers apparently have been given the last word. The March 1999 issue of
"TM" prints two letters to the editor which I think members of NanciNet would
find more to our liking. Laura Lynch Tull, formerly of the Dixie Chicks,
writes "Having been in the music business in Texas for many years, I couldn't
help but wonder why Nanci Griffith cares what Michael Corcoran of the "Austin
American-Statesman" thinks or writes about her." Laura goes on to suggest
that "Nanci should meet him; then she might be inspired to take revenge in a
song. A possible title, 'The Oily, Disheveled Troll.'"
And Jeanie Slack Wyatt, a reader from San Antonio, is also quoted in her
response to the same article. "Thank you for your article on Nanci Griffith
only because you had beautiful photographs. I found your harping monotonous.
I hope Nanci keeps the perspective that regional publications ... prove their
irrelevance by bashing a Texas treasure."
Hear! Hear!
Rob in San Antonio
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Subject: Nanci related spam sorry
From: Village Records (bill@villagerecords.com>
Hi all,
Please don't be offended by this friendly on topic spam.
Just wanted to let you know that we just got the latest Nanci item in
stock this morning.
It is "A Celebration Of The American Farm" containing "Trouble In The
Fields" by Nanci and Maura O'Connell with the Nashville Chamber Orch.
also tracks from:
Glenn Yarbrough
John Cowan
Tim O'Brien
Victor Mecyssne
Jay Ungar (Civil War soundtrack)
At our website http://villagerecords.com/
It is under "various" for the artist and "celebration..." for the title.
$14.99 plus shipping.
thanks
Bill Lavery
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