// A new Nanci concert date, some word origin discussion, some
// thoughts on list community, and some more recommendations. 
// Anybody know how Hooker's doing? 
// Enjoy...[BP]

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Subject: NN: More dates (no leather garment content)
   From: Halesbop@aol.com

According to Pollstar, Nanci has been added to schedule for Merlefest and also
City Stages in B'Ham. Looks like a pretty active summer shaping up after all. 

John Prine dates are popping up, too. Strawberry Fest, and several southern
shows in March.

Steve


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Subject: NN: Merlefest
   From: kbean@ugcorp.com

Could someone please let me know again when the Merlefest is.  Shawn really
grabbed my attention when he said our Nanci was going to be there.  : )

Thanks a bunch!!

keana


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Subject: NN: More on Merlefest
   From: "Shawn Kimbro" (skimbro@bhset.org>

First off, has anyone heard anything about James' condition?
Rob?

Steve announced:

> According to Pollstar, Nanci has been added to
> schedule for Merlefest and also City Stages in B'Ham.

So, y'all coming now?  I heard the rumor already that Doc
had invited Nanci to Merlefest and I didn't think she'd turn
it down.  She was *one* of the "surprise guests" I was
referring to in my earlier Merlefest message. I won't post
the entire list of performers, but can't resist saying that
practically every artist we've discussed at any length here
recently will be there.  For those of you who have never
been, Merlefest is a collection of about ten stages.  Each
stage has its on schedule and artists rotate around to
different stages playing 45-90 minute shows.  The same
artist could appear many times either solo, or with others.
As an example, Gillian Welch appeared on the Songwriter's
stage with Guy Clark last year.  There will be thousands of
people there but the individual stages keep crowds
relatively small and you can nearly always get a good spot.

It doesn't sell out so I don't usually get tickets until I
get there.  However, there is a midnight jam on Saturday
night that will sell out. It costs extra.  Lodging is a
challenge because the festival is held at a little college
in a small town at the edge of the mountains.  There is
limited RV camping but lots of tent sites available. Hotels
are already all booked up but you can usually get
reservations in some of the surrounding towns, especially
near the interstates.

Like at Kerrville, after-hours are as fun as daytime
activities.  There aren't organized campfires, but there is
plenty of impromptu picking sessions in the parking lots and
campsites.  My invitation is still open to everyone to stop
by the TrailZZone camp to talk, pick, or just grin. There
will be lots of music anywhere you turn. It isn't at all
unusual for performing artists to drop in on jam sessions or
just to start up a performance of their own somewhere.  In
years past The Freight Hoppers have been out on the street
in front of Burger King until 2:00 A.M.  I think there are
several members of this list who are involved in the
Merlefest organization in various ways.  It's just a heck of
a folk music celebration, come if you can.

Warm Regards,
-Shawn


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Subject: NN: To make an omelet... (Re: Intolerance)
   From: BMiller224@aol.com

I always hate to spoil a good story.  But, heck, everyone will still prefer
Shawn's whirlpool version, anyway.  So I'll go ahead.

I once read that the s**k word in the context recently referenced derives from
a barnyard saying.  It had to do with weasels, who are known for going into
henhouses, poking holes in the end of the eggs without breaking the eggshell,
and s**king out the contents.

The original form of the saying was (( s**king eggs, >> and was used to refer
to something contemptible, cowardly, or underhanded, which is how farmers
tended to view these nocturnal raids on their henhouses.  The word ((weasel>> 
is used in a similar way to refer to someone who is tricky or
untrustworthy.

I'm sure that at some level, this does an injustice to weasels, who no doubt
have some useful role in some ecological system or the other.  As all animals
do, with the exception of the pigeon, which could safely be driven into
extinction.

Well, I'm not a biologist, or a linguist.  I do remember where I read this,
though, which was in a book called "The Life and Times of Joe McCarthy" by
Thomas Reeves.  McCarthy grew up on a chicken farm.  I used to have a pet
theory about people who grew up on chicken farms.  But I won't trouble you all
with it here.  I stole it anyway, because I don't have the imagination to make
stuff like this up.

Now, I applaud list manager Bill's desire to keep the dialogue (mostly) on
high ground.  But I did want to suggest that that particular phrase has more
to do with the barnyard than the bedroom.  Then again, if you say that someone
talks like he was raised in a barn, that's not exactly a compliment either!

So, you can't win.  I was raised in town myself.  I was in a henhouse once,
but there were no weasels around that day.

Bruce "I did eat scrambled eggs every morning" Miller
San Bruno, CA



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Subject: Re: NN: To make an omelet... (Re: Intolerance)
   From: RonHennesy@aol.com

(( Now, I applaud list manager Bill's desire to keep the dialogue (mostly) on
high ground.  But I did want to suggest that that particular phrase has more
to do with the barnyard than the bedroom.  Then again, if you say that someone
talks like he was raised in a barn, that's not exactly a compliment either.
So, you can't win.  I was raised in town myself.  I was in a henhouse once,
but there were no weasels around that day. >>

For me, particular words in themselves aren't objectionable, but they may
become so in the context of people's motivations in using them.

For example, talking about "chicks" in a barnyard settting probably wouldn't
offend anyone.  But far be it from me to risk hurting anyone's feelings by
mentioning the Dixie C**ks!

All the best,

Ron Hennessy


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Subject: NN: Chat with Steve Earle and other short ramblings
   From: Glen Hatchell (gkh@pobox.com>

First off, while I'm not commenting on the Dwight
groupie thread,  2 comments from this NNer that
seldom posts and seldom reads most of the
Digest  -- (1) Bill is correct that the list has taken
a negative tone in the last few months; (2) the list
does seem to be developing a personality (finally).

It's my opinion that this list would be active and fun
if Nanci's last two discs were as good as Flyer.
The purpose of a list, in my opinion, is to discuss
the music of (artist name here).  There was, IMHO,
little discussion of OV2 and the songs.  I'm also
on the Dar Williams list to and the same was happening there.
The list begane a song analysis thread, one song per week,
starting with track 1 disc 1 and going through all 3 discs.
I'm not necessarily suggesting that for the NN, but
everytime I get an NN digest, I question why I stay subscribed.

Final comment--- I *am* still subscribed and I'm not looking
for comments....I'm just expressing my opinion.

Now for Steve Earle-- I had a little chat with Steve and Eliza
(I think that's her name....she runs E-Squared, Steve's label)
at the Folk Alliance Conference in Albuquerque.  Steve said
that the initial orders for The Mountain, his new disc, will
ensure the success and longevity of the label.  He also made
comment that this is his first record where he owns everything
and he was clearly happy with that.

I agree with the post that said there isn't a bad Steve Earle album,
but depending on your taste, there are ones that you'll like better.

Glen in Tampa, still subscribing


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Subject: NN: Lost
   From: Poetmuse@aol.com

Something in the translation is getting lost. Something in the meaning, the
word, the music, the thoughts behind the actions- lost. We're losing friends-
old and new. I think the Nanci-net does this every once in awhile to keep
herself... excuse the reference and word- thin. I've been on the list long
enough to know that you just hit the delete key and weather the storm. With
everything that has been going on in my life- I've come to the table too late
to add to the concoction of the meal- which may perhaps be just as well- my
emotional state these days does not lend itself to rationality. I think some
toes have been stepped on (wings have been clipped?) with this fanatical crap
(can I say crap on the nanci net?) ahem... this very *earnest* discussion of
fan-dom. Do we really need to talk about it? In the important day to day
business of just living our lives do we need to worry about liking Nanci too
much? Or in some cases, too little? 
Nanci is Nanci and she will do as she pleases. She could record Other Voices
5000 for all I care- the point is- it does not limit her meaning or
inspiration in my life. Does this make me yet another starry eyed female fan?-
as Lippert likes to call us- well, I'm female....I don't know about the starry
eyes- (my life has definitely forced me to lose the stars....) but I'm a fan-
right or wrong- and I joined the nanci net to entertain those lightweight
tendencies of mine to become giddy-excited-poetic- about a
person/musician/artist that has touched my heart. 

Let's not lose sight of why there is a nanci-net. 


Christina " the heart not taken" Myers

// Indeed. Wish I'd said that. [BP]


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Subject: NN: (Re: Intolerance)
   From: "Chuck Duffield" (klem@ruralnet2.com>

I was and still am a lifetime fan of Harry Chapin - creater/writer of the
infamous song "30 Thousand Pounds of Bananas" where he speaks between verses
of the importance of the word/term "sucks" by and from his brothers and
repeatedly from the audience in reference to his writing abilities on this
song.

Well....in a live concert I attended long ago, Harry referred that the term
"sucks" is not meant at all in the sexual context but actually is a musical
term usually used in reference to "The Osmonds"!

No flames please (about the Osmonds), just a true humorous story!

Chuck "I still can't find Toto" Duffield



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Subject: NN: Album moods
   From: "Hank Van Slyke" (chevelle@pnx.com>

Hiya, Nancinetters!

Have you found yourself categorizing your moods according to one of Our 
aNGel's albums?  Or thinking that someone you know is in a sort of 
"OIAVBM" mood?  Or maybe a "LNGH" mood?  It seems to me that each album 
has a sort of mood to the song selection, and each one is different.  
I've been in a "LLA" mood lately, might progress to a "Flyer" or "BRFTM" 
mood tomorrow.  What are your moods?

Anyway, y'all have a nice weekend.

Hank "is Shiner doing my thinking for me?" Van Slyke


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Subject: NN: Dwight, Nanci, et al.
   From: Valerie Graber (n9649904@cc.wwu.edu>

Hi all...

It's awfully late and I still have several more hours to go if I'm going
to get the second draft of my thesis done by tomorrow, but I can't
resist putting in my two-cents worth, especially after getting the most
recent digest.

First - thanks to all of you who recommended the Horse Whisperer
soundtrack.  Upon first listen, I wasn't sure how I felt about it, but
now I really love it (I do like Emmylou's version of Cattle Call better
than Dwight's, although I am definitely a sucker for a song with
yodelling!)

Secondly - thanks for all who recommended Step Inside This House.  I
think someone wrote a couple months back that she could listen to Lyle
singing her water bill (or something similiar) - I definitely agree! 
His voice is wonderful and his poetry is amazing (I've been listening to
The Road to Ensenada too); maybe I need to join a Lyle list!  No - I
don't think I can subscribe to any more lists at this time!

Thirdly - I wanted to say thanks to Bill P. for all the work you put in
dealing with the list; I'm not sure what's involved but if there are
1000 people on this list, there must be a good chunk of time invested
every day. Thanks Bill...don't worry, I'm sure there are many of us out
here who can differentiate between an individual's opinion and the
nature of the list in general.

It's obvious that some people who have been posting lately need to
lighten up a bit; an  opinion is only a collection of words, and words
only have power if they are given power by the reader.  I really believe
that we can choose how something will make us feel, at least if we are
able to step back and think about it.  I could choose to be angry at
that negative review of Nanci that was so hotly discussed last week, or
I can recognize that it was merely the opinion of someone who obviously
thinks and expresses himself much differently than me.  The satirical
comments on Dwight Yoakam's fans obviously struck a nerve with the woman
who unsubscribed because of them, but like that review, it seems to me
that it's another case of someone letting an opinion, description,
whatever, get under their skin, when it really would be a lot healthier
to channel that negative energy into something more positive.   

Ok - I'm crawling back into Word to finish this thesis thing of mine,
although I'd much rather be crawling into bed. 

Thanks for letting me ramble...

-Val G.

"[Her] heart was a feather in all kinds of weather"


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Subject: NN: What's Nanci up to now?
   From: Becky Rose (brose@garner.k12.ia.us>

Greetings!  I have been offline for sometime now, and just wondered what
Nanci is up to now, and where she has been recently.  Is she in the U.S.,
or still overseas?  Are there any upcoming plans for any TV performances or
tours?  Please post this with any info. that you may have.  Thanks!  brose


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Subject: NN: RE: Another recommendation
   From: Maureen Scott (mscott@shore.net>

Todd Barrett wrote:
> OK....working under the assumption that we all like different kinds of 
> music I will recommend someone that I really enjoy listening to:  
> Melissa Ferrick. 

Yea Todd!!  It's difficult to find Melissa Ferrick fans.  I've been going to
see her for quite a few years now, and she can still impress me with her
guitar work.  She is similar to M. Etheridge but with more of an edge.

I must also recommend Laurie Geltman.  Another woman who can play guitar. 
"Growing Down" is one the the most well written songs I have heard.  Check her
out if you're in the Boston area. Her CD "No Power Steering" is available in
stores.



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Subject: NN: Trio I
   From: "Edgar C. Gleim" (egleim@surfnetinc.com>

Hi All:
    Just catching up on about a week and a half of e-mail (heavy load at
work, foster kid in hospital, making room for oldests return from Army
and maybe another foster kid) so maybe this has already been addressed.
I too bought Trio II after the NPR review but would recommend Trio
I-maybe even over II.  Contains a song written by Linda Thompson-ex-wife
of sometimes NG co-conspiritor Richard Thompson.  Song is great.  I
think that the title is "Lies" but I'm to tired to get up and dig it out
for sure.  And I believe it even won a Grammy some years back-either for
Linda, Emmylou and Dolly or for the composer.  Check it out.

Ed

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