// A possible return of the NanciNet Tee Shirt, lyrics and more 
// lyrics to live by, and more!
// Enjoy...[BP]

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Subject: NN: T-Shirt Survey
   From: Shawn Kimbro (kimbro@planetc.com>

Hi gang, 

I've received quite a few requests for NanciNet t-shirts lately.  If
there is enough interest, I'll go ahead and print another batch.  The
catch is, I need orders for at least fifty in order for it to be
economical to print a four-color shirt.  So let's do this, if you're
interested in purchasing a 100% cotton t-shirt with the NanciNet logo on
the front and the web address on the back, send me a message.  In the
message just tell me how many you want. The actual ordering will come
later.  The shirts cost 18.00 each with a small shipping charge.  Please
respond directly to me and not to the list.  I'll accept requests until
Memorial Day, then I'll post further details if there is enough
interest. Please respond only if you're serious about ordering a shirt.

Thanks, 
-Shawn
 ________________Nanci Is My Aeroplane___________________
|                  __       ____         Shawn Kimbro    |
| Oh but now       | \____o__/_/___|    Morristown, TN   |
| and then in the  \(>-----_/_/____]>         ~          |
| color of the evening      `o     |  kimbro@planetc.com |
|________ http://www.geocities.com/~trailzzone __________|


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Subject: NN: Sokol Blosser
   From: JOHN PRIVE (prive@internetcds.com>

I heard from Sokol Blosser that the tickets are on sale now for their
summer line up. The numbers to call for tickets are Fastixx
(800-992-8499) or the winery (800-582-6668). I just got home and haven't
called yet. They said their line up is in today's Oregonian (Friday).

Molly

NanciQuotes to live by hmm-hmmm-hmmmm "take care of that rose, it's my
dreams that your holding when you hold that rose"


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Subject: Re: NN: intro, storms, and a question
   From: kenn lippert (lippert@fyi.net>

>Secondly, a thread that may have already been done-sorry if it has.  But,
>one thing I like to do is keep kind of a notebook of quotes from songs that
>you can "live by".  I was just wondering, if you had to pick one line from a
>nanci song that was kind of a "motto for life" kind of thing, what would it
>be?  If you want to
>send these either to me privately or to the list I can add them up and
>compile kind of a "NanciNet Quotes to Live By" Or if it's already been done
>or is just a dumb idea, sorry to waste your time and list space with it.
>Enough rambling for now,
>Tracy

Welcome Tracy.  Not a dumb idea at all, and not done before that I can
remember.  What are my favorite Nanci words to live by...

"If wishes were changes we'd all live in roses and there wouldn't be
children who cried in their sleep."

"We're living in a time of inconvience."

"You know that drinkin' always makes me sad."

kenn "I don't jump over cars" lippert


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Subject: NN: Austin tickets
   From: CADLAC@aol.com

Hi NanciNetters,
I am fixin to leave for Austin this afternoon. The excitement is growing 
every minute. All kinds of things to do and see, wow it is going to be fun. I 
have two tickets available. My friends from Seattle had to change plans at 
the last minute so... If any of you are interested please Hurry and Email me. 
I have only a bout two hours before I am off to the airport.
Kirk
Franktown, Co.

CADLAC@aol.com


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Subject: NN: Nanci Concert June 19
   From: Amber L Gilbert (alorien@juno.com>

Hi all!

    Just wanted to know if there are any Nanci-fans going to her
concert at Chastain Park on (I think) June 19?  Also, my dad wants to
find a Nanci-net t-shirt.  Anyone know where we could find one?

     Many thanks,
     Amber

P.S.  We might be moving to Oak Ridge, Tennesse soon.  Any fans living
around there?

*After all, there is but one race; Humanity
        -George Moore*


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Subject: NN: words to live by
   From: "Deb Thornton" (68coyotes@onms.com>

The one Nanci Griffith line that stood me still, absolutely riveted, and
changed me in an instant with its starkness comes from "It's a Hard Life
Wherever You Go," which has an exceptional lyric that builds to the
conclusion:

I am guilty
I am war
and I am the root of all evil, Lord

so that the "And I cannot drive on the left side of the road" is not a
release from the three realities, but an affirmation of them, a metaphoric
statement about what we can and cannot do. Or what we refuse to learn to
do. Those words shocked me into a profound silence the first time I heard
them, the day "Storms" was released.

It's always bugged me that in recent years she's spun off that tight line,
singing "and I have been the root of all evil." She backs off too much by
changing the verb. The old existential "I am" is the truest way to say it.

The realization that we are all guilty, we are all war, and we are all the
root of all evil, not separate from anyone on the planet by our virtues or
our vices, is the beginning of wisdom because it implies that we are also
fully capable of manifesting our innocence, making peace, and living our
loves.

The profound realization of those lines is also articulated so beautifully
and so humanly in Father Zossima's section of that great old novel the
whole world should be assigned to read once every two years, Dostoyevsky's
_The Brothers Karamazov_.

Oh, and I love "you be the mule, I'll be the plow, come harvest time we'll
work it out" and the volume of wisdom compressed into "we tend our garden;
we set the sun." And the words I actually live, "love never dies when it's
sheltered here very safe inside and it's left you with a friend out in the
madness" (that may not be right, but it's what my soul remembers, knows,
believes). In that true believer way, I remain

your sister in the mad world,
deb thornton

This from the Brothers Karamazov:
    If you sin yourself and grieve even unto death for your sins or for
your sudden sin, then rejoice for others, rejoice for the righteous man,
rejoice that if you have sinned, he is righteous and has not sinned.
    If the evil-doing of men moves you to indignation and overwhelming
distress, even to a desire for vengeance on the evil-doers, shun above all
things that feeling. Go at once and seek suffering for yourself, as though
you were yourself guilty of that wrong. Accept that suffering and bear it
and your heart will find comfort, and you will understand that you too are
guilty, for you might have been a light to the evil-doers, even as the one
man sinless, and you were not a light to them. If you had been a light, you
would have lightened the path for others too, and the evil-doer might
perhaps have been saved by your light from his sin. And even though your
light was shining, yet you see men were not saved by it, hold firm and
doubt not the power of the heavenly light. Believe that if they were not
saved, they will be saved hereafter. And if they are not saved hereafter,
then their sons will be saved, for your light will not die even when you
are dead. The righteous man departs, but his light remains. Men are always
saved after the death of the deliverer. Men reject their prophets and slay
them, but they love their martyrs and honour those whom they have slain.
You are working for the whole, are acting for the future. Seek no reward,
for great is your reward on this earth: the spiritual joy which is only
vouchsafed to the righteous man. Fear not the great nor the mighty, but be
wise and ever serene. Know the measure, know the times, study that. When
you are left alone, pray. Love to throw yourself on the earth and kiss it.
Kiss the earth and love it with an unceasing, consuming love. Love all men,
love everything. Seek that rapture and ecstasy. 


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Subject: Re: NN: words to live by
   From: "Tracy Applebaum" (poohbear512@hotmail.com>

Re:  Deb Thornton's post about "It's a Hard Life Wherever You Go,"

>It's always bugged me that in recent years she's spun off that tight line,
>singing "and I have been the root of all evil." She backs off too much by
>changing the verb. The old existential "I am" is the truest way to say it.

I know there have been arguments about this befoire, but I want to put in my 
two cents.  I wonder if anyone thinks she may be saying something about how 
far we've come?  Like, "I haven't been able to do anything about this evil, 
this hate, but now through spreading the word and singing the song, there's 
less of a problem nd I'm less helpless."???  Anyway, that's my take on 
it--putting a little optimism into the situation.

Tracy


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Subject: Re: NN: words to live by
   From: RonHennesy@aol.com

Tracy Applebaum, replying to Deb Thornton writes:

((I know there have been arguments about this befoire, but I want to put in my 
two cents.  I wonder if anyone thinks she may be saying something about how 
far we've come?  Like, "I haven't been able to do anything about this evil, 
this hate, but now through spreading the word and singing the song, there's 
less of a problem and I'm less helpless."???  Anyway, that's my take on 
it--putting a little optimism into the situation.>>

I lean towards Tracy's interpretation, but think Nanci's songs welcome a 
variety of interpretations.

My 2 cents on "I can't drive on the left side of the road:" the line suggests 
to me that Nanci's somewhat left-wing politics may have been discouraged by a 
number of people in the pleasant central Texan town of Austin (although not 
at all by Ann Richards, who was grateful when Nanci campaigned for her during 
Ann's successful run for Texas governor.  I haven't seen any comments by 
Nanci about George W!).

Cheers,

Ron Hennessy

// huh??? [BP]


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Subject: Re: NN: words to live by
   From: "Matthew Bloomfield" (mailm@tthewb.u-net.com>

Hi Tracy (and everyone else),

I always liked:

Someone should've told her
When beauty's all you offer, too soon the world discovers that
beauty's gone. (From Drive-in Movies and Dashboard Lights)

So true in todays world where image is more important than truth. 
Though I'm not one for dissecting songs (I'm usually way out on the
writer's sentiments)  I think this could be what Nanci was getting at
because later on she writes:

You never taught her truth from lie all you told her was to smile.

Seems increasingly true in politics :)

Matt


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Subject: NN: Re: words to live by
   From: "Dave Bronsveld" (dbrons@mindspring.com>

Well, I think that one of the most touching, and beautiful lines is..
"I remember waving back at you through the silted window pane"
This is, of course, from So Long Ago.  The image of Nanci pulling away
from the station, and looking back through the haze on the window, is
something I can see, and feel.  I have memories like that.

As far as words to live by, probably the most important to me is from
what I consider Nancis best recorded song - Goodnight to a Mothers Dream.
The simple, profound line is
"Me, I'm getting older, and I'm plain as plain can be"
The humility of Nanci sharing this most intimate song with us just took
my respect, and enjoyment of Nanci's work to a whole new level.  The line
reminds me that I shouldn't place my thoughts, and feelings above those
of others... It's better for me not to focus on the ways I look good -
rather the ways I can become a better person.

Welcome to the list Tracy, I think you'll like it here. The line you
mention from Anyone Can be Somebodys Fool was one of my early favorites.
You know, you might enjoy digging around the archives a little, they can
be found at:
	http://brisbin.net/Nanci/archives/arc.html
If you look hard, you just might find John Hodges' analysis of Two Blades
Shy    :^)
Dave

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Subject: NN: Re: Re: words to live by
   From: "Sharon Burton-Hardin" (sharonburton@earthlink.net>

OK. I have to share one of my favorites from Wing and the wheel. "And their
dreams live in their childrens face..." Exactly how I feel about my kid,
even though he is grown - when the hell did that happen! My dreams really do
live in his face. All I have to do is look at him to see them.

I have always liked "I wish it would rain, wash my face clean." I especially
got to love it when I was living in the Yucatan and the clouds would pile
up, about 110 degrees and about 100 precent humidity and red dust would be
all over me, especially my sweaty face. I _would_ wish it would rain and
wash my face clean and cool the air off. Also has a good beat. And the best
sound for her voice. Very stripped down and classic. One of my favorie
albums.

My girl friend and I have ticket to the concert in San Diego this summer.
After 13 years, I finally get to see her in concert. I am _very_ happy. We
are spending the money to do the dinner and front row seats. After so many
years of wanting, I want the best seat in the house. It will be a little bit
of heaven on the bay one fine summer evening.

sharon

Sharon Burton-Hardin
President of the Inland Empire chapter of the STC
www.iestc.org
Anthrobytes Consulting
www.anthrobytes.com
Check out www.WinHelp.net!
See www.sharonburton.com!


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Subject: Re: NN:words to live by
   From: Steve Robertson (stever@mindspring.com>

A perfect example of how Nanci's songs are subject to a wide, wide range of
interpretations. Sharon mentioned two of my favorite songs, but her reasons for
liking these lines are about 180 degrees from my reasons. My favorite line from
TWatW is "Here's to all the dreamers- May their open hearts find rest". I
always thought that Nanci was telling us to hang on to our dreams. She seemed,
to me, to be a little sad that so many dreamers had sublimated their own dreams
to the suburbs and children.

In IWIWR, my favorite line is "Love in a memory sparkles like diamonds. When
the diamonds fall, they burn like tears". I've even used that line while trying
to convince others to listen to Nanci because of the strong poetic imagery. So
I've always considered the rain to be necessary to wash away those fallen
diamonds.

Hidin' Out in the Georgia Pines-
Wishin' It Would Rain,
Steve Robertson

// TWatW = "The Wing and the Wheel"
// IWIWR = "I Wish It Would Rain"
// [BP]


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Subject: NN: Speaking of touching lyrics. . .
   From: ALJ (guerreros@uswest.net>

6 years ago when I left my ex-husband I used a lot of Nanci
lyrics to describe the situation - "Now he's sittin' on the
sofa he's lookin' for his supper wonderin' what's becomeof
me. . .That good ol' boy will find a band of gold on the
stereo,  then my mama's gonna call and say where's she gone?
Down the road with the radio on."  A humerous take on the
broken promise of an abusive alcoholic whom I left in the
middle of the night.  Of course I have a wonderful happy
life now.  But two years ago when I bought BRFTM, listening
to "She Ain't Goin Nowhere" I had to pull over and listen,
and at  the lines "And the wind had a way with her hair/And
the blues had a way with her smile/And she had a way of her
own/Like a prisoner has a way with a file" I was so touched,
that someone could put into words the absolute oneness of
purpose I had on that one night in my life.

Liz

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Subject: Re: NN: Speaking of touching lyrics. . .
   From: o416@erols.com

ALJ wrote:
> I had to pull over and listen,
> and at  the lines "And the wind had a way with her hair/And
> the blues had a way with her smile/And she had a way of her
> own/Like a prisoner has a way with a file" I was so touched,
> that someone could put into words the absolute oneness of
> purpose I had on that one night in my life.

Oh no.  Now we have to consult the ref.  Are lyrics Nanci lyrics if
she's sung them OR only if she wrote them?  (Ie, Guy Clark did the
writing on the last mentioned lines below.)

Who's in charge here?

If we can included lyrics sung by Nanci then the one I live by is
        "I needed money cuz I had none."

Reid Mitchell

// Seems to me that if you first heard the lyrics in Nanci's voice, 
// that counts...[BP]


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Subject: Re: NN: Are they Nanci lyrics?
   From: "Tracy Applebaum" (poohbear512@hotmail.com>

Hey Nancinuts!

Sure, we can count lyrics that Nanci sang, even if she didn't write them.  
She makes every song her own just by singing it, IMHO.  If we started saying 
she had to have written the song, well what if she co-wrote it would it 
count as a Nanci song?  I say we let all the songs she has done, be they 
from the OTHER VOICES albums or her own or whatever.  After all, if you were 
in the audience at one of her shows and DIDN'T know what songs she had and 
hadn't written, would you be able to pick out the ones she did from the ones 
she didn't?  So I guess the point of all this rambling is, of you can hear 
her aNGelic voice on the song, it's fair game for the "To LIve By" contest.

BTW, a question about IWIWR.  I too have always liked the line about "when 
the diamonds fall they burn like tears."  It's always seemed to me it could 
be a metaphor for things other than "love in a memory."  But I don't think I 
quite "get" what the song is about.  (Ok, everyone tar and feather me for 
being 18 here!)  But it seems like every part of the song is talking about 
something different.  I think of any vacation I take to Austin and to 
Galveston (or anywhere else on the gulf coast) as an I Wish It Would Rain 
Trip, because of the 2nd verse.  But, what does that have to do with 
mourning the absence of one's true love?  Or the rain?  And is there some 
deep meaning to the use of the word "diamond" here, like as in a wedding 
ring from the love "way out west" or is it just an image of the rain?  I 
know there are hundreds of ways to interpret NG songs, and they all seem to 
mean something different to every ear that hears them, but I feel like I'm 
not doing justice to the song or something if I just think of it as, like, a 
celebration of a trip to Tx and there's really some deep meaning about lost 
love, or John, or someting.  Just wondered what y'all think.

OK, I'll shut up now.

Tracy "who would give anything to see Nanci in her hometoen tomorrow night" 
Applebaum

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Subject: NN: Suprises
   From: John Edward Graveling (kai21@dial.pipex.com>

It's been a good week for new music. Wednesday I got an advance copy of 
Marty Stuart's amazing new cd, "The Pilgrim". Yesterday I received an 
advance copy of "Party Doll & Other Favorites" by Mary Chapin Carpenter. 
I've been a big fan of MCC's for a long time and have seen her live many 
times, she's playing 7 consecutive nights here in London 1st to 7th 
November incidentally. I digress, normally I don't buy 'best of', or 
'greatest hits' packages, but I have to admit that despite not being 
overwrought with enthusiasm toward this new disc I slipped it in the 
player and was pleasantly suprised. It's got a great rockin' live "Can't 
Take Love For Granted" to kick things off, a good new song, "Wherever You 
Are" follows, a gorgeous lullaby, "Dreamland" keeps the standard high. 
There are 5 songs taken straight in their original form from the 
previously released cd's, but the other 12 tracks make it a worthwhile 
project and something her long standing fans will want. It's also a decnt 
starting point for new converts.
I also got Stacy Dean Campbell's "Ashes Of Old Love" and it is a work of 
great maturity. Gone are the rockabilly, new country trimings of his 
previous two releases. This is the work of a major new singer songwriter. 
There are a couple of Jamie O'Hara covers on the disc, but the rest is 
just wonderful. If you like the aforementioned Mr. O'Hara or Kevin Welch, 
this disc will be right up your street. It's virtually totally acoustic, 
with just the odd electric embellishment. This is seriously good and 
deserves a big audience, so go out and buy!!!!

John "just passed two thousand albums and cd's in the collection with 
these purchases" Graveling.


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Subject: NN: The Lost American Songwriter
   From: John Edward Graveling (kai21@dial.pipex.com>

Last night Tom Pacheco, surely the most underrated songwriter around, 
played The Pit, in a small village in rural southern England. The small 
listening room was packed to capacity, 50 souls listening to the tales of 
a true wordsmith. Apart from some of his more well known songs, Tom 
played a number of new songs written since the release of his latest cd 
last month. Two in particular were staggering in their social 
observations. "41 Shots" written about the street trader gunned down at 
his own front door by 4 plain clothes cops in New York City. A tragic 
case of mistaken identity, but as Tom says "all black men look the same 
to the NYPD", as the police try to justify their cold blooded injustice. 
"People Of Conscience" was written after Tom had seen people on the 
streets of his hometown, Woodstock, demonstrating against the bombings in 
Kosovo, and against the death penalty outside prisons in Texas. The song 
is full of admiration for those in the human race who still care what is 
happening and as he says, most humans have such short attention spans 
these days that conversation will soon be a thing of the past, and 
perhaps future generations will never know of the art of conversation.

For those who have Tom's music in their collections go back and read the 
words as you listen. I know some of you out their don't like his voice, 
but the songs, the words, are all real, portraying the world we live in, 
and if we shirk away, perhaps it is because the truth sometimes hurts as 
it cuts too close to the bone. For those who don't know of Tom's music, 
seek out his cd's at your first opportunity, this is a unique talent, 
with too much to say for it to fall on deaf ears. If you like Townes Van 
Zandt and Guy Clark, you'll love Tom Pacheco and Vince Bell. They are a 
pair of lost souls to the music listening public in general, and it's 
time that situation was rectify by discerning musical listeners on these 
lists. If WE can't listen where is the hope?

John "trying to shine the light in your eyes" Graveling.


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