NanciNet Digest 5-25-99

// Reports from Austin! More lyric discussions! A survey proposal!
// An "almost all Nanci" digest!
// Enjoy...[BP]

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Subject: NN: Weekend in NanciLand
   From: Shelly Brisbin (sbrisbin@prismnet.com>

Greetings, all,

Time for a little report on the Austin festivities.

As I type, KUT Radio is doing a flight-themed music. We've already heard a
nice version of Nanci singing "Outbound Plane" (not the album version) and
Tom Russell is holding forth with his version.

But I digress.

We had lots of NanciNetters over to the house Sunday, including former List
Daddy Mark Ferguson, Sherry Pearson, Bill and Sue Peete, Christina Myers
and friend Robert, Kirk and Tammy from Colorado, Paul Greer, Steve
Makarsky, Mike Cogliandro, and Kenneth. If I forgot anyone, I'll give you
some consolation strawberries or brisket. We still have loads of food.

Besides eating, drinking and initiating our visitors to Austin, we had a
bit of business to take care of Sunday. At long last, we presented Mark
with a few tokens of our collective appreciation for his hard work as
founding NanciNet list manager. Briefly, that effort began last fall when a
group of us, led by Deb Thornton, formed our own discussion list (called
"ferg") and batted around suggestions on how to properly acknowledge Mark's
contribution to NanciNet. Folks sent money, and we were all astonished at
the way it piled up. When we were done, we had enough to buy a very nice
plaque (in wood, with NanciNet logo) and a righteously huge gift
certificate to Austin's Waterloo Records in the amount of $450.

We made sure that Mark was coming to the party Sunday, but didn't tell him
what was up (thanks, Sherry) and handed over the loot. Mark was, as usual,
appreciative and humble about it all. If the pictures come out (we do have
a little video, too) I'll post them on the Web in a few days.

I'll leave last night's concert and after-show festivities to others for
the moment. I'm sleepy and I have to go back to work:-]

-shelly


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Subject: NN: Nanci in Austin....
   From: "Steve Makarsky" (makarsky@vvm.com>

Morning, NNetters:  I'll leave the details of Nanci's Austin concert to
the more eloquent members of NanciNet who were there... But, in a
nutshell, Nanci was GREAT... She was looking good and her voice was in
excellent shape... And you could tell she was really having fun up on
stage...

The play list was heavily from Flyer, including Always Will, This Heart
(which she closed with), Nobody's Angel... But, she also played LNGH (in
which she messed up a line & enjoyed a good laugh with the audience over
it afterward), Outbound Plane, Trouble in the Fields, Hard Life, and a 
couple of others... Unfortunately, I don't have the playlist... I gave 
that to Mark Ferguson in hopes he could get Nanci to autograph it for 
me...(Did she sign it, Mark?)... She also had a funny story about her 
mother buying her a French Horn when she was only 6 & trying to get her
to play it (after this, she had the symphony French Horn players stand 
and take a bow)...

She got 3 standing ovations, including one for each the 2 encores... The 
first encore was for an extended version of Wing & the Wheel, the second 
was a powerful version of The Road to Aberdeen...

IMHO, having a symphony backing her up worked well... If this was any 
indication of what her new CD will be like, I can't wait to hear it...

I tried to meet her after the show, but the room they were holding the 
little get-together backstage was very limited... Maybe next time...

Still, a great show all in all...

Oh, yeah, lest I forget, thanks again to Shelly for hosting the NNet 
party at her place on Sunday... It was nice to finally be able to put 
faces to names...

Steve (still smiling...)


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Subject: NN: NanciNetters - who are we??
   From: David Lidz (dlidz@legstrat.com>

Okay, so here's a little idea that came into my poisoned-by-politics little
brain, and I guess it popped up while I was thinking about the possibility of
meeting up with NN'ers before the Wolf Trap show (btw - I haven't heard much
about the pre-show to-do.  Has anyone volunteered to chair the committee, and
if not, shall I??)

I wondered who it is I'd be meeting up with.  There's me, the 33 year-old
blathering putz from Annapolis, and my beautiful, intelligent, charming 10 year
old daughter Kelsey.  And I know a little bit about the rest of us - we've got
majorly talented musicians, writers, poets, folks of all ages from all parts of
Texas and some from the rest of the globe too, liberals, conservatives, Marilyn
Manson fans, etc etc etc.

But I thought it would be kind of fun to put together some stats about us, and
maybe even form a composite sketch of the "mean" Nanci Griifith fan (my guess
is that'll be something like a 33 year-old blathering putz from Annapolis, with
a beautiful, intelligent, charming 10 year old daughter - waddaya think?)

So, here's a draft of my idea for a survey.  I am at this point only asking for
thoughts on the idea, and criticism/comments/edits for the survey questions. 
I'll aim to put out the official survey on June 1, close the polls June 30 (the
date of my date with Nanci!!), and release the results July 4th!!  All
tentative, of course...

Individual info of course will be kept private, and deleted let's say by August
1st. 

So here goes, the NN survey (draft):

1) Birthdate?
2) Gender?
3) Where do you live?
4) Occupation?
5) How and when did you hear about Nanci Griffith?
6) How and when did you hear about and join the NanciNet?
7) Do you belong to other fan lists?  If so, whose?
8) How many Nanci concerts have you been to - please list?
9) Which concert was your favorite?  Which individual song?
10) Have you ever met Nanci - please detail?
11) What's your favorite Nanci song written and performed by Nanci?
12) What's your favorite song written by Nanci and covered by another artist?
13) What's your favorite song written by another artist and covered by Nanci?
14) What's your favorite Nanci album?
15) How much Nanci stuff do you own?
* Some albums, some videos, maybe a little memorabilia
* All commercially released albums and videos
* All commercially released albums and videos and some bootlegs too
* All of that plus t-shirts, hats, the Book, downloaded Two of a Kind-Heart
chapters, - constantly fighting with the spouse who's got other ideas for
filling up the basement?
16) Do you consider yourself a Nanci purist - i.e., the less production the
better - or do you appreciate all (or at least most) of the
experimentation/innovation Nanci does?
17) Another way to phrase that - do you prefer young Nanci or mature Nanci; or,
which Nanci "period" do you like the most?
18) Have you ever met another NN'er in person - someone you would not have met
without the NN connection?
19) Have you formed any lasting relationships with someone you met over NN. 
Please detail - friendship?? a-courtin'?? marriage??
20) How often do you de-lurk and contribute to the list?  Almost daily?
Weekly?  Monthly? Every couple of months?  Every couple of years?  Every
millenium?
21) What percentage of postings do you actually read, all the way through? 
22) Choose one word that comes to mind when you think of the NN "community."
23) Does the world around you (family, friends, workmates):
* Not know anything about Nanci Griffith and your affection for her and her
work
* Know a little bit about the artist and your fondness for her and her work
* Know just what a freak you've become, and worries about you and this group of
cyber-freaks you hang out with?
24) How would you categorize your political philosophy?
* Way wacky left bleeding heart never left the sixties liberal
* Moderately liberal
* Passionately Moderate
* Moderately conservative
* Way wacky right card-carrying NRA never left the fifties conservative
* Politics??  You mean how we're supposed to vote or something??
25) Party affiliation?
* Hard-core Democrat
* Democrat when they're behaving
* Hard-core Independent
* Republican when they find an agenda
* Hard-core Republican
* NOT a back-seat driver from America, in my country, they call me a ______.
* Party?  Sure - what time and are you buying?
26) Do you believe Nanci's political proclivities:
* add to her persona and her music
* detract from your image of her
* don't really affect your appreciation of her 
27) Do you believe Nanci ever peeks in on the NanciNet?
28) Do you believe she'd scream (as the cover art suggests) if she ever heard
UPO2?
29) Cool hobbies/talents?
30) Favorites:
* Book
* Movie
* Cuisine
* Musician

31)  Is there anything at all you'd change about the NanciNet - rules,
nature/topics of conversation - I don't know, I'm just asking?
32)  And (with acknowledgment to our new member, Tracy Applebaum), the Nanci
Griffith lyric most poignant to you and your view of this odd thing we call
"life?"

// It's been a couple of years since survey-meister Kenn Lippert
// did the last one. 
// PLEASE send your replies, comments, etc. on this survey proposal
// directly to David "he must be crazy" Lidz. [BP]


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Subject: NN: Things change but never do
   From: John Edward Graveling (kai21@dial.pipex.com>

"Old man look at my life
I'm a lot like you were
Old man look at my life
24 and there's so much more
Live alone in a paradise that makes me think of two
Love lost such a cost
Give me things that don't get lost
Like a coin that won't get tossed
Rollin' home to you

Old man take a look at my life
I'm a lot like you
I need someone to love me the whole day through
Ah one look in my eyes and you can tell that's true

Lullabyes look in your eyes 
Run around the same old town
Doesn't mean that much to me
To mean that much to you
I've been first and last
Look at how the time goes past
But I'm all alone at last
Rollin' home to you"

Now who remembers those great lyrics from 1971? Basically they portray 
all the feelings Nanci does in songs like "I Wish It Would Rain". We are 
all human we all feel the same things, but we feel them in different 
ways, just as we show our emotions very differently. Often the sentiments 
are exactly the same, but the expressions are different. Some things just 
never really change, just the way we perceive them, and our perceptions 
change with age and maturity.

John "just another two cents worth" Graveling.


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Subject: NN: Blue Moon Boys
   From: o416@erols.com

Now that volume two of Guralnek's biography of Elvis is out, I've 
finally gotten to volume 1--in which we learn Scotty Moore and Bill 
Black, Elvis's original bamd, were sometimes billed as The Blue Moon 
Boys, referring to the B side of Elvis's first single.  Wonder if 
anybody in the Blue Moon Orchestra was thinking of that fact when they 
picked their name.

Reid "pink Caddilac" Mitchell


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Subject: NN: Initiation
   From: "comp" (mikebarrett@comp.netlineuk.net>

Forgive me if this has been done before, but my excuse is that I'm a newcomer.

I was wondering what specific Nanci song might have turned people into fans or
prompted them to buy their first NG album?

For me, I'd heard a few tracks on the radio - Country 1035 here in England -
and had seen a few videos on CMT - which we don't get over here any more - and
had been meaning to invest in a CD.  Then one day they played a "Billboard
chart classic" which was Nanci's "Going Gone", and it really blew me away. That
prompted me to start buying the albums - from the very next day!

And before anyone points it out, I do know that the song never appeared on the
Billboard chart by Nanci. Thanks Country 1035 for that mistake - I'm really
grateful!


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Subject: Re: NN: Initiation
   From: kenn lippert (lippert@fyi.net>

>Forgive me if this has been done before, but my excuse is 
>that I'm a newcomer.
>
>I was wondering what specific Nanci song might have turned 
>people into fans or prompted them to buy their first NG album?

This at last is an easy question: "Love at the Five and Dime" on a worn
cassette tape of "One Fair Summer Evening" bootlegged by a Christian
Missionary Alliance minister.

kenn "ding" lippert


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Subject: Re: NN: Initiation
   From: "Tracy Applebaum" (poohbear512@hotmail.com>

Oh my gosh I just realized I forgot to include my "how I got onto Nanci" in 
my intro.  Sorry...

We were living in Austin and I guess it was 1988 or 89.  Emmylou Harris and 
Nanci were going to be (separately) on Austin City Limits.  I wanted to see 
Emmylou, but I had never heard of Nanci and didn't think I would like her, 
for some reason.  My mom (who had heard about her from someone at work) 
said, "Oh, I really think you'll like her.  She has a beautiful voice, very 
much like a little kid, and she's really enthusiastic when she's singing.  
Just listen for a couple songs, then you don't have to watch it if you don't 
want."  The forst song she did was IWIWR, and about halfway into the first 
line of the song I was HOOKED.  There was just something about her style, 
her enthusiasm, how much fun she seemed to be having, that drew me in.  
Thhen, the two things about the show that stick out in my mind were her 
actually jumping up and down with excitement during "Listen to the Radio" 
and her LAFAD introduction, esp. the part about the unnecessary plastic 
objects.  I made her go and buy STORMS the next day for LTTR, and then the 
next Christmas I got OFSE as a present, and then I had to get all her 
albums.  (The only one I don't have is the Falling From Grace Soundtrack, 
which my local record stores say is out of print.  Anyone know how I could 
get a copy, or at least a copy of her song?)

The rest, as they say, is history.

Tracy


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Subject: Re: NN: Initiation
   From: Ed Maier (eddie@flash.net>

> Forgive me if this has been done before, but my 
> excuse is that I'm a newcomer.
> 
> I was wondering what specific Nanci song might have turned 
> people into fans or
> prompted them to buy their first NG album?

I heard Nanci sing Speed Of The Sound Of Loneliness one evening on the
Letterman Show, but couldn't remember her name and only part of the
song title. Took me two years to finally link the song with the artist. 
I bought OVOR and that was the beginning. The rest of this story is still
happening. 

Ed


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Subject: Re: NN: Initiation
   From: SierraSkyz@aol.com

I found nanci through a song I traced to Kate Wolf.

I saw a documentary called "Poison in the Rockies" and heard this incredible 
song with some kind of words that went " the finest hour, I have seen, is the 
one that comes between, the edge of night, and the break of day, when the 
darkness rolls away".  I had taped the documentary and listened to this song 
over and over again.  It haunted mefor about 2 years  and I tried to guess 
what the title might be from the words . 

I  asked the record store to try to find the Great Divide song and they had 
it recorded by Nanci as well as Kate, so I discovered them both that day.   
Little did I know that someday I'd be able to hear the weekly broadcast of 
the folk music show Kate wrote the song for on KPFA in Berkeley every week.  
Her memory is very much alive there. Little did I also know that anyone else 
in the universe knew of Nanci, and now, look at us!!!  Life is good.

Deb Meyer    Looking forward to Strawberry this weekend!


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Subject: Re: NN: Initiation
   From: "Diane B. Wilkes" (diwilkes@erols.com>

I read a review by Jonathan Takiff in the Philadelphia Daily News of Little
Love Affairs.  It intrigued me enough for me to order a copy, despite never
having heard Nanci...I fell in love with it, and began to purchase all of
her cds.

Romantic note: I met my husband, Jeff, when he was managing a cd dept. at a
store.  I had ordered Last of the True Believers from the prior manager,
and my husband claims I walked into the store, threw my pocketbook on the
counter and demanded, "Where's my copy of Last of the True Believers?"
While I wasn't quite that rude, I did ask about it and say rather bitterly
that I had ordered it three times...Jeff mollified me by knowing who Nanci
was and told me he had played her music a lot on his radio show in college.
 The rest, as they say, is history (btw, he got me the cd pronto).

Diane
Diane Wilkes
http://www.oldgreycat.com


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Subject: Re: NN: Re: Hard Life
   From: "Tracy Applebaum" (poohbear512@hotmail.com>

Hey, it's me again.  I don't mean to start a big feud here, or to make any 
enemies (Alvord or others) BUT I have to comment on his message re: IAHLWYG. 

He writes:

>This is not one of my favorite songs. It has no "shades of grey" and is
>extremely preachy. I am sure there are many thin KKKers in the world.

I'm not saying that it isn't preachy, but does anyone here really disagree 
with what syhe's saying?  The last time I saw her in concert (at the Newport 
Folk Festival in COlumbia, MD last summer) she said it was her grandmother's 
favorite song that she had ever written because it shows that she (Nanci) 
was listening when her grandmother was preaching to HER about MLK Jr and all 
the causes represented in that song.  Was that preaching of NG's grandmother 
a bad thing?  The world needs MORE songs like that, that bring awareness to 
the hatred out there and the damage it is doing to children, IMHO of course. 
  And about the "fat man" line, I don't think she is saying that all KKK-ers 
are fat or anything; she is just reporting something she saw in Chicago 
once.  I know I personally have seen similar situations in restaurants in 
various places.  She's giving the hatred, and its spread, a reality, an 
image in her listeners' minds, by creating a scene for it.  Doesn't that 
make it seem more real than if she just said, "Racism is bad" or something?  
Anyway, I'll shut up now; I really don't mean to offend anyone with this 
take on the song.  Feel free to disagree with me,

Tracy


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Subject: Re: NN: hard life
   From: "Tracy Applebaum" (poohbear512@hotmail.com>

Hi Deb and all-

This is a wonderful, thoughtful way to look at the song, but I just have a 
quick question (and maybe I'm being a chronic optimist-I don't know) but 
surely you're not suggesting that we CAN'T make progress towards abolishing 
hate and violence and eviol of other descriptions?  Surely it is possible to 
someday get past this.  We got past slavery and pre-civil rights days, 
didn't we?  Maybe I'm misinterpreting what Deb is saying, but I don't think 
the journey into evil os one that can't be stopped-quite the contrary.

Tracy


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Subject: RE: NN: words to live by
   From: "Tracy Applebaum" (poohbear512@hotmail.com>

Hi again!  I'm just going through all my NN messages, responding to I guess 
almost all of them.  One of these days I will learn to consolidate all my 
ramblings into one message, but in the meantime here I go again.

David, I didn't mean that we don't EVER move backwards, or that, to be corny 
for a second, "everything's coming up roses every day" but I think that 
there are some things we as a society ARE making progress on, and I'd like 
to think that prejudice is one of them.  Re:  TOI, I too like those lines 
and agree with the frustrated sentiment they express.

While I'm wasting cyberapace room here, let me clarify something about my 
original idea.  It's not just quotes you LIKE from Nanci songs but quotes 
that you could live by.  I know different people see lines as meaning 
different things, but personally I hear lines like "I wanna find that love 
of 22 here at 33" as more part-of-a-short-story sort of tings and less a 
metaphor-for-life thing.  Though, now that I write that, i see it as a 
potential metaphor for pining for lost things.  Anyway, I just wanted to 
clear that up in case some people misunderstood my original idea.

Oh, and thanks to whoever it was (sorry, I can't remember) who posted about 
IWIWR.  While I'm not old enough to have lived through that yet, I do 
understand it as a way one would deal with a "lost love" sutiation.  I 
thought that since there are so many references to John and that situation 
on her songs this might be anohter.  Was she 22, maybe, when he died?  Or am 
I TOTALLY on the wrong track?

Tracy

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Subject: Re: NN: words to live by
   From: Shawn Kimbro (kimbro@planetc.com>

> Oh, and thanks to whoever it was (sorry, I can't remember)
> who posted about IWIWR. While I'm not old enough to have lived
> through that yet, ...I do understand it as a way one would deal 
> with a "lost love" sutiation.

Me either.

Oh, and John was killed after taking Nanci to their senior prom.  She
was 17. 

-S

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Subject: NN: John and Nanci at 22
   From: Steve Robertson (stever@mindspring.com>

Since I just finished reading "NG's Other Voices", I can clarify the question
about John and the "love at 22". Nanci's ex-husband, Eric Taylor, is originally
from Georgia, and they got married around the time that Nanci was 22. John was
killed in a motorcycle accident about five years earlier- I think.

Hidin' Out in the Georgia Pines-
Wishin' It Would Rain,
Steve Robertson


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Subject: NN: Trivia Results
   From: "Julie Anne" (julie-anne@home.com>

Hello NanciNuts,

Five very knowledgable Nanci fans have prevailed in the Trivia Contest.  
The winners are:

David "he's a walking, talking Nancy encyclopedia" Gibson turned in 8
correct answers 
Mike "the consumate Nanci collector" Chesman turned in 7 correct answers
Diane "determined to win" Wilkes also turned in 7 correct answers
Marcia "she's up for the challenge" Elliott came up with 6 correct answers
Mark "no last name" catfan@sr.radiks.net  turned in a respectable 3 correct
answers

The winners will all receive a copy of Elektra Entertainment's promotional
video for Nanci's Other Voices, Other Rooms album, which contains footage
not released on the full-length video.  It's a real treat.  Now, I know Mike
already has this video, so he'll be receiving an assortment of unnecessary
plastic objects from the Mount Palomar Observatory gift shop, for his
equally impressive astronomy collection.

By the way, no one had the correct answer for number 9, only one person had
the correct answer for number 5, and everyone had the correct answers for 1,
2, and 3.

Thanks for playing all.  I hope you had fun!

Julie.

And here are the answers:

1.  What movie inspired both Nanci's song "If Wishes Were Changes" and the
concept for the "Speed of the Sound of Loneliness" video?

Wings of Desire (a Wim Wenders film)
[Source:  Nanci Griffith interview with Vin Scelsa, 1987, Idiot's Delight
radio program]
(p.s. - If Wishes Were Changes was written by Nanci and James Hooker)

2.  Which of Nanci's songs shares a title with a Thomas Wolfe novel?

"You Can't Go Home Again" (from Poet In My Window)

3.  What was Nanci's first non-musical profession after graduating from the
University of Texas?

Kindergarten and first grade teacher
[Source:  Connoisseur magazine, February 1989, p. 56, "The Lively Arts"
article by Jared Lawrence Burden]

4.  Name three motion pictures in which a song sung by Nanci has been
played.

Cookie (1989) (song "Never Mind")
Falling From Grace (1992) (song "Cradle of the Interstate")
The Firm (1993) (song "Never Mind")
How To Make An American Quilt (1994) (song "Anyone Can Be Somebody's Fool")
Milk Money (1994) (song ? - can anyone fill this in?)
(some responded with:  Annabelle's Wish  (1997) (song "Tiny Dreamer (the
Music Box Theme"), though this wasn't a motion picture, but a t.v. special
that went to video)

5.  Which performer on Nanci's recording of "If I Had A Hammer" was present
when Pete Seeger and Lee Hays wrote the song in the 50's?

Eric Weissberg  (sang and played banjo on "If I Had A Hammer" on OVToo, and
was taking a banjo lesson from Pete Seeger at the age of eight when Lee Hays
and Pete Seeger began writing the song)
[Source:  The book "Nanci Griffith's Other Voices, A Personal History of
Folk Music," by Nanci Griffith and Joe Jackson, 1998, p. 120]

6.  Nanci used to be the opening act for a singing duo from which one of the
members later sang on a Nanci recording.  Who is this person?

Phil Everly of The Everly Brothers
[Source:  The book "The New Folk Music," by Craig Harris, 1991, p. 53, and
the albums "Storms" and "Late Night Grande Hotel"]

7.  Name at least seven songs on which Nanci and James Hooker share writing
credits.  (Just them or with others.)

Little Love Affairs
Gulf Coast Highway  (LLA)
I Don't Wanna Talk About Love  (Storms)
If Wishes Were Changes  (Storms)
Radio Fragile  (Storms)
Hometown Streets  (LNGH)
The Power Lines  (LNGH)
Don't Forget About Me  (Flyer)

8.  It has been written about Nanci that she, "May just be one of America's
best poets, and for sure is one of its best songwriters."  Where did this
appear?

Time magazine, October 3, 1994, Vol. 144, No. 14, p. 76, "Little Gifts That
Just Happen" article by Michael Walsh and Elizabeth L. Bland

9.  Nanci's first of many references to an angel in a song she wrote and
recorded, and which was released commercially, appeared in which song?

"If I Were A Child" on the vinyl B.F. Deal Sampler Vol. 1, 1977  (Lyric: "If
I were a child I would cry and beg your pardon, If I were a beggar I would
hold out my hands, If I were an angel I could smile and say you owe me, But
I am just a lady you never tried to understand" by Nanci Griffith)

10. Which of Nanci's co-producers was once a member of the "Cowboy's Ragtime
Band?"

Jim Rooney
[Source:  The book "Baby Let Me Follow You Down," by Eric Von Schmidt and
Jim Rooney, 1979, p. 316]


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Subject: NN: RE: Trivia Results
   From: Maureen Scott (mscott@shore.net>

   Julie Anne,

  I believe the song in the movie Milk Money is "This Heart".

  Maureen



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Subject: NN:Quotes to live by
   From: Jenny Jones (strangelittlestar@yahoo.com>

WEll, before i start on the quotes i wanted to say hi,
i haven't been around here for a while as my modem's
busted....'we're livin inthe age of communication' my
a**.  WHO am i??? how can you ask??? it's me,
jenny.frog@virgin.net, scottish, likes to argue a
lot...:::acknowledges nods of recognition::::
        Quotes to live by....hmmm....
"you gotta pocket fulla gold dust waitin just around
the corner, to free that poet in your moon" from POet
in MY window, my version of it's a hard life:
"we lost disney, we ain't got cronkite, god bless
martin luther, but i believe, i believe, i believe..." 
the conviction nanci sings that with is so reassuring.
PLus, i'd stick in the lines of 'daddy said', but
that's been said....plus from Little LOve affairs,
another bit that's real good is:
"YOu can cry your eyes out i gotta shoulder here for you,
and every day your broken heart's gonna turn a lighter
shade of blue.."
        That's all i can think up just now.  all you lucky
people who get to go to the austin shows and all the
others, just remember to have a great time!!! 
lotsa luv, jenny, who gets to see steve earle on
tuesday and lucy K a week on monday and met jewel 2
weekends ago....


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Subject: NN: favite Nanci quote
   From: "Terry Chouinard" (tchouin3@slis.ua.edu>

Two cents from a regular lurker. One of my many favorite Nanci 
lyrics and rather meaningful to me. From "Spin on a Red Brick 
Floor"

"New York City sorta brings out the stupids in me."

Everytime I find myself driving through that city or walking about its 
streets, I think of Nanci's song and just can't wait to escape to find 
myself some sense of normalcy away from the metropolis.

Terry  


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Subject: NN: Re: NanciNet #99521
   From: "Donate von Bredow-Gardner" (dvbgardner@genelogic.com>

Tracy - welcome to the nancinet.  Nice to see there's a young person that likes
Nanci  (we won't reveal how old the rest of us really are......).   I think
your proposal for a quotes digest is excellent!  Way to go to engraciate
yourself with us :).   I certainly look forward to it....... and let me think
about some of my
favorite quotes to contribute..... 

Donate "why don't I have my tix for Wolf Trap yet?" von Bredow-Gardner


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Subject: NN: Oh, "Oh Susanna"
   From: "David Steere" (dsteere@sil.si.edu>

I'd like to second (and third and fourth) John Kinnamon's note of a
few weeks back regarding the amazing singer/songwriter Oh Susanna
(Suzie Ungerleider) and her new cd, "Johnstown."  She is
extraordinary.  A Canadian/American (Cleveland, Massachusetts, and
Vancouver) artist with a real gritty but musical voice, beautiful
songwriting and storytelling skills and a unique imagination.  Her
uncompromising voice reminds one (as John mentioned) of Gillian Welch
and Iris DeMent.  I also hear Patty Griffin and Trish Murphy.  But she
is definitely her own.  Sample her sound at her website
(www.swellinteractive.com/ohsusanna/).  Her cd, Johnstown, and her EP
"Oh Susanna" can be ordered for $25 total in U.S. currency from
Canada.  It may be the best musical investment you make this year.  I
can't believe she wouldn't be very popular in "our circles" in the
U.S. if people can just find out about her.  My favorite song in the
feast of twelve songs she wrote for "Johnstown" is THE BRIDGE.  The
first two verses and chorus follow:

"There's a bridge that spans two peaks of land
where the river rushes through
That's where I go sometimes to stand and think of me and you.
Cast my wishes to the wind with every stone I throw
and watch them slowly disappear in the rushes far below.

Well I once was your tender bride with a veil across my face.
Too young to own an ounce of pride so innocent and chaste
But you changed all that my love the night that we were wed
And a blackened root of scarlet fear grew from our wedding bed.

CHORUS: I'm goin' down to the murky
water because it is my home
And it feels like a broken arrow is
buried deep beneath my bones
I will find the place from which I came
the one that gave me breath
And it will bring me shining joy even if it
brings me death."

david


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Subject: Re: NN: Oh, "Oh Susanna"
   From: John Edward Graveling (kai21@dial.pipex.com>

I'll endorse the recommendation of Oh Susanna's "Johnstown" cd. It's 
stunning, but you have to be prepared to listen. Her voice will not 
appeal to all, good ol' Lisa certainly won't be enamoured. Her lyrics and 
the accompaniment are biting, cutting, lilting, yearning. She comes 
across like Mary Lou Lord, rather than Nanci or Kate, although I hate 
comparing artists. I got the cd for $12 from Miles Of Music in 
California, a wonderful mail order service. Took four days from ordering 
for the package to get to me here in England.

John "just more of my two cents worth" Graveling


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Subject: Re: NN: Oh, "Oh Susanna"
   From: "Diane B. Wilkes" (diwilkes@erols.com>

>She comes 
>across like Mary Lou Lord, rather than Nanci or Kate, although I hate 
>comparing artists. 

Just saw MLL last night at a funky little club in Philly that I had never
been to before, the Five Spot.  Mostly they have swing music and dancing
lessons, but last night Mary Lou Lord performed in their downstairs lounge
for barely an hour--I don't blame her for the shortness of the show, since
she was being pushed to get off stage so the DJ upstairs could start
blasting swing tunes again.

Great show--just her and her guitar.  She didn't do Jingle Jangle Morning,
which grieved my husband, but was very off-the-cuff and interesting.  It
seems since she gave birth a few months ago, she now gets panic attacks,
and I admire her guts in plowing through a performance despite first the
fear of getting one and then the actuality of it.

You have me intrigued by "Johnstown"--I must check it out.

Friday night I saw Solas (without Karan Casey, alas) open for Mary
Chapin-Carpenter, with Shawn Colvin doing a 35 minute set in between, and
then joining MCC onstage for a few songs (including the mesmerizing One
Cool Remove).  It was a really terrific show, esp. the set by Shawn Colvin.
 I can't help seeing MCC as the good, serious older sister and Shawn as the
renegade who is less noble and socially conscious--and more interesting.

Diane
Diane Wilkes
http://www.oldgreycat.com

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