NanciNet Digest 6-26-99

// This is a fairly long digest: least favorite songs, more least
// favorite songs, and some we like anyway...
// Enjoy...[BP]

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Subject: NN:Nanci's Sound Byte on TNN
   From: Steve Robertson (stever@mindspring.com>

Did anybody see Nanci's sound bite on TNN's documentary series "Century
of Country" last night? Basically, she just repeated her frequent
comment that folk music is the "F" word in the country music business.
Tony Brown, of MCA, commented that he brought her to Nashville to try
develop her as a mainline country artist, but they eventually agreed
that her style and his vision were incompatible, so he "let her fly
away".

The narrator, Bob Scheiffer, gave me the impression that Lyle Lovett
came to Nashville first and encouraged MCA to give Nanci a contract. I
always thought it was the other way around. Anybody familiar with the
time line?

Hidin' Out in the Georgia Pines-
Wishin' It Would Rain,
Steve Robertson

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Subject: NN: grumpy dieter
   From: Anna Henderson (Anna_Henderson@BAYLOR.EDU>

While the "Protein Power" diet is fairly easy and I'm not starving, the absence
of Oreos is making me grumpy, and so I'm going to bring this up.  

Some things have been bugging me for months and months: one is the Jan. 99
Texas Monthly article on NG; another is the letter by NG that the article
quotes.  I don't want to get in to those now, though, I'm still too upset by
the Nanci "icky" Griffith comment, (and plenty has been said about these things
in this forum already).  

What I do want to spout about is the fact that in every NanciNet poll I've ever
seen/participated in, "Love at the Five and Dime" always rates as NNetters' top
song.  What's the deal here?  Of all of the songs to be number one here.... 
Why?  This song is possibly the only one of Nanci's that comes close to being a
"mainstream" country song, embraced by the masses.  Ugh.  It is one of my least
liked Nanci songs.  I came to love Nanci's music/lyrics because they were
Different from anything I'd ever heard on the radio.  Nanci's music is creative
and poetic, non-comformist, literary.  "Love at the Five and Dime" is cliche,
predictable, Wynona-ish.  It's all of the things that I love Nanci for NOT
being.  Am I missing something?  Does anyone else dislike 5 & 10?  I'd like to
see some response on this.  

I'd better send this before I start feeling guilty about it.

Anna "not usually a trouble maker" Henderson

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Subject: Re: NN: grumpy dieter
   From: kenn lippert (lippert@fyi.net>

>While the "Protein Power" diet is fairly easy and I'm not starving, the
>absence of Oreos is making me grumpy,
...
>"Love at the Five and Dime" is cliche, predictable, Wynona-ish.  It's all
>of the things that I love Nanci for NOT being.  Am I missing something?
>Does anyone else dislike 5 & 10?  I'd like to see some response on this.

Wow.  And you look so nice and reasonable in your FOITM photo.

"Love At the Five and Dime" works for me on several levels.

First of all is the  darling introduction on the OFSE album and video.
That one introduction is the source of so much of the Nanci lexicon;
"Unecessary Plastic Object", "Popcorn and chewing gum rubbed around on the
bottom of a leather soled shoe", the whole Woolworth's mystique, "lifts as
they say in England".  Where we would be without it?  Writing to the
NanciNet without those shared phrases would be like talking to a movie buff
without being able to say "You have burned so brightly Roy", or "I love the
smell of napalm in the morning", or "badges? we don't need no stinkin'
badges".  I hadn't thought about it before now, but I think that OFSE forms
a large part of our collective imagery and vocabulary. I do have to agree
that LATFAD on the studio recording doesn't have quite the same magic to it.

To me the guitar in this song is the perfect balance of simplicity and
beauty.  Take away one note in the finger picked intro and it becomes just
a children's ditty.  And anymore and it is crowded and busy.  (I am
reminded of an Albert Einstein quote about simplicity in science: "Things
should be made as simple as possible but not any simpler.") That open
handed thumb pick strum of hers transmits a clean, powerful chord that is
not too heavy, it flies from her hands and just rings and rings; perfect
with the chorus.

Her voice: she travels from that young girl behind the counter with the
polishing cloth in her hand, to the heartbroken new wife, to the mature,
contented, creative woman.

You could put Wynonna, or Dolly, or Reba, or even Shania behind a
microphone and have them sing this song, and it probably would sound
mainstream and cliche' from them.  As I understand it, Nanci wrote this
during a songwriter's workshop as an assignment, so don't expect Dylan or
Townes, but she brings such sincerity and personality to the story that it
becomes real to me.  And isn't this the point of music, poetry, or art
anyway; to make the thoughts and emotions of the artist real and alive in
the soul of the audience?

Lastly, this is my first love.  Others may come and thunder my heart even
more, but there is always a special place for that first love.

kenn "going up" lippert
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| kenn lippert
| lippert@fyi.net
| trfn.clpgh.org/aaap
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| "Reach me down my Tycho Brahe,  I would know him when we meet...
|  Though my soul may set in darkness, it will rise in perfect light;
|  I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the night."
|                                             -Sarah Williams
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| "See Kate Campbell"

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Subject: Re: NN: Five and Dime
   From: Tracy Applebaum (poohbear512@hotmail.com>

Thanks Kenn--just when I was beginning to think I was the only one who liked 
that song.  Sure it's not her most powerful, most moving, most socially 
significant song, but it sure has its merits, and I agree 100% that they are 
exemplified in the OFSE video (and the 1989 ACL; her intro to this song was 
one of the things that hooked me onto her music.


">You could put Wynonna, or Dolly, or Reba, or even Shania behind a
>microphone and have them sing this song, and it probably would sound
>mainstream and cliche' from them.

I think that when Kathy Mattea did the song, it was pop-country and not at 
all folky or short story-ish or otherwise as-it-is-when-Nanci-does-it.  
Speaking of the way Nanci does it, does anyone else think the song might be 
satirical?  I mean, any love that starts in a Woolworth store for godsakes 
has got to be, well, cheap. Woolworth merchandise doesn't amount to much in 
the way of quality; how could Woolworth love? And saying love's on sale, 
making it seem as if love is a commodity rather than a special feeling 
between two people, just makes me wonder how far into her cheek her tongue 
really is.

Even without that, a lot happens in their lives that, as kenn says, is well 
expressed by the way Nanci sings the song:  "her voice: she travels from 
that young girl behind the counter with the
>polishing cloth in her hand, to the heartbroken new wife, to the mature,
>contented, creative woman."

If I had to pick my favorite Nanci song, it sure wouldn't be LAFAD, but I 
would still out it in my top ten somewhere.  I'd be interested in other 
people's ideas; hope I didn't make too many enemies here.

Tracy

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Subject: Re: NN: grumpy dieter
   From: Stenbock@aol.com

I won't say I don't like it...I do...but there are songs I like better.  
"Poet in My Window" comes to mind, and "Last of the True Believers", and "Not 
My Way Home".  There are some covers that I like better, too, like "Across 
the Great Divide", "San Diego Serenade", "Who Knows Where the Time Goes", and 
her version of "Hard Times Come Again No More" has reduced me to tears on 
occasion, it moves me that much.  (Of course, I've been through some hard 
times recently, and that song has almost been my anthem.)

Michael Cornett
Takoma Park, MD

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Subject: NN: grumpy dieter
   From: irisheyes66@webtv.net (susan gervais)

(((and "Not My Way Home". There are some covers that I like better, too,
like "Across the Great Divide", "San Diego Serenade", "Who Knows Where
the Time Goes", and her version of "Hard Times Come Again No More" has
reduced me to tears on occasion, it moves me that much. (Of course, I've
been through some hard times recently, and that song has almost been my
anthem.)>>>

During my tumultuous divorce in 1997, "Not My Way Home" became MY
anthem...And even though I am about to be married to my true soulmate
(on Newport Beach at sunset---YAY!)I still cry every single time I hear
that song!

It reminds me of all the pain my ex and I (unecessarily) caused each
other by staying together, because we knew no other life besides each
other...

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Subject: Fwd: NN: grumpy dieter
   From: Blueye2323@aol.com

I don't know a lot of Nanci songs, but the one that struck me is "Cold 
heart/closed mind"   it's a really GOOD song!  Especially the "wash you out 
with the tide" part...so poetic...so "Yeah!"

J

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Subject: Re: NN: grumpy dieter
   From: Stenbock@aol.com

In looking over my NN tapes and CDs, I realized I left out what I think is 
probably my favorite NN song..."Trouble in the Fields".  I think it's lovely, 
moving, and I have wonderful memories of teaching my 5-year-old neice how to 
sing it.

Michael Cornett
Takoma Park, MD

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Subject: Re: NN: grumpy dieter
   From:irisheyes66@webtv.net (susan gervais)

(((What I do want to spout about is the fact that in every NanciNet poll
I've ever seen/participated in, "Love at the Five and Dime" always rates
as NNetters' top song. What's the deal here? Of all of the songs to be
number one here.... Why?>>>
 
I could never figure that out, either...I know with Nanci, as well as
all my other favorite musicians, there is some material that would rank
as "not my cup of tea"...And "Five and Dime" definitely fits that
criteria...
 
(((( It is one of my least liked Nanci songs. I came to love Nanci's
music/lyrics because they were Different from anything I'd ever heard on
the radio. Nanci's music is creative and poetic, non-comformist,
literary.>>>
 
I still shed tears at much of her music, because it is so personal and
insightful. Those qualities are what drew me to her music in the first
place---I could FEEL her emotions right through the air, straight into
my heart... 

((( "Love at the Five and Dime" is cliche, predictable, Wynona-ish. It's
all of the things that I love Nanci for NOT being. Am I missing
something?>>> 

I agree....It is somewhat sappy. Thank goodness she has so much other
work to enjoy! 

You missed nothing, Anna...You hit the mark dead-on! 


Susan "so in love" Gervais 

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Subject: NN:Story Songs
   From: Steve Robertson (stever@mindspring.com>

A few people have been expressing their opinion that LATFAD and similar
songs are their least favorite of Nanci's songs. I think most of us
agree that Nanci writes folk songs. If you think about the history of
folk music all the way back to the Middle Ages, folk songs have
traditionally been story songs- either a simple story about a situation
from daily life, or a story to illustrate a political or social problem.

So I would argue that Nanci's story songs are the foundation of her
work, and the most abstract and poetic songs are designed to exercise
her creative license and deviate from the traditional folk mold. The
fact that some of her story songs have been covered by country artists
indicates to me that some of the best country performers appreciate the
importance of folk music in the history of country.

My favorite type of song from Nanci are the ones that mentally transport
me to the honky-tonks of Austin or Houston in the Seventies. Consider
this: what if we found ourself transported to a different time line- one
where Nashville is best known as a printer of Bibles, and Austin is the
Country Music Capital of the World. Would we then consider Nanci, Guy
Clark, Townes, and Joe Ely to be Country Superstars?

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Subject: Re: NN: Country Superstars
   From: Tracy Applebaum (poohbear512@hotmail.com>

Steve Robertson wrote:

>Would we then consider Nanci, Guy
>Clark, Townes, and Joe Ely to be Country Superstars?

I would think (at least I would hope) NOT!!!  Look at why it is we like 
Nanci, Guy, and the others:  for their musical integrity, their musical 
skill both in terms of performing and musicianship, the thoughts they have 
and the way they present them.  Then look at why people like Shania, Reba, 
George Strait, Tim McGraw.  Basically, they have good bodies.  I thnk the 
difference between pop superstars and fine craftspeople of music is whether 
it is the music itself or the jeans they wear on stage that draws us to 
them.  Just my opinion; feel free to argue.

Tracy

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Subject: Re: NN: Country Superstars
   From: VickiStein@aol.com

Music is subjective.  My 2 pennies?  I think Reba has a fabulous voice and 
her interpretative abilities are a Country Songwriter's Dream.  Vince Gill is 
a phenomenal musician, singer, and writer,  and easy on the eyes, too.  If 
Shania came to town (and she did - sold out, as a matter of fact), I'd stay 
inside my house, lock the doors, close the windows, and wear ear plugs.  I 
cannot handle the thought of her voice or of the songs she chooses to 
sing..."That don't impress me much..."  YUCK.  
but again, like I said, music is subjective, and I keep my mouth shut about 
Shania in Grand Rapids because she has a huge fan base here.  So, for what it 
is worth...

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Subject: Re: NN: Country Superstars
   From: Catelaw@aol.com

>  Then look at why people like Shania, Reba, 
>  George Strait, Tim McGraw.  Basically, they have good bodies.

I don't think I'd put George Strait in the category of "only" having a good 
body.

Cate

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Subject: Re: NN: Country Superstars
   From: Blueye2323@aol.com

I like shania....

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Subject: Re: NN: Country Superstars
   From: Brimpls@aol.com

Dear Vicki,

I'm with you on Vince Gill's extraordinary talents. Also, just because 
someone has reached "country superstar" status, we must not discount them. 
That's extremely unfair and judgmental. Vince is an amazing musician with a 
long career behind him. He has reached an extremely high level of fame and he 
has lots of fans who probably don't know his early work, but who simply know 
him as the superstar he is now. That's okay, but they should go back a few 
years and listen to his old music too. I love to see him "pick" with good 
bluegrass players, myself (including the work he used to do with his 
now-ex-wife Janis, who plays a good bluegrass guitar herself). Vince is also 
a true performer in that he seems to enjoy the act of performing and the 
interaction with the audience. I have enjoyed seeing him play in some 
smallish venues here over the years. I would probably not line up to see him 
in a big arena, if only because I remember the smaller concert experiences so 
vividly and with great affection. In summary, Vince is a wonderful musician 
with a big heart. It shows in his music and I think that his Superstar Status 
has come after much hard work and a lifetime devoted to the music.

Unfortunately I agree with your Shania Twain observations, but you know, her 
songs are very good for Line Dancing (a new hobby of mine, blush blush). 
Shania's songs tend to have strong beats and "hooks" which make them easy to 
choreograph and easier even to learn. Her songs work perfectly for Line 
Dancing but there's nothing profound or heartfelt about them. Her breathy 
vocal quality appeals to men of all ages, apparently, and she seems perfectly 
put together for posters, billboards, and MTV videos. Even her first name is 
not her own, which says a lot!

I don't know what it would feel like if Nanci had attained Country Superstar 
status, but I think she's done beautiful, amazing work over the years and I'm 
very happy to see all of the recent concert reviews and notices on this 
board. Think of where we were a year or two ago, when we believed that Nanci 
and the Blue Moon Orchestra were on their last tour. How far we've come since 
that line of discussion!

One last observation and then I'll go to work on cooling down--it's very hot 
and sticky here in the Upper Midwest--about "Love at the Five and 
Dime"--Nanci's guitar lines in that song are charming and yes, 
tongue-in-cheek, and the lyrics are precious, and I have loved hearing her 
perform that song over the years. "Dance a little closer to me, dance a 
little closer now, dance a little closer tonight--" It's just a precious 
song. I do love it! And who can forget her spoken intro? Once you've heard 
it, it becomes part of you, and you will never look at a Woolworth's without 
thinking of that song. 

Off in search of more ice cubes--

Sabrina in Mpls.

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Subject: NN: Nanci
   From: "Mark L. Schaad" (mls235@bluemarble.net>

Nanci is a true rennaisance (sorry for the spelling) person. She has an
eagle eye for the human consciousness and can paint a kind, necessary
and true of life, the universe and everything. There, it's been said.

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Subject: NN: A Nanci of a good time
   From: Blueye2323@aol.com

I had a Nanci of a good time today.  I would like to embarrass myself by 
saying that I only own one Nanci CD...and that would be Lone Star State of 
Mind....and I remember the first time I heard that CD...my friend was really 
into Nanci...and I used to make fun of her because of it...(I one saw Nanci 
on VH1 when Bette Midler did From A Distance..and thought she was dopey)
So I was laughing at my friend...and after she got the CD from a USED record 
place...she HAD to take over MY car CD player....and to tell you the 
truth...I liked the songs...BUT  didn't want to admit it....I kept on 
complaining (even though I liked it)...There was a glitch in my friends CD 
though....everytime it got to a certian part in Lone Star...it would 
skip...and at a part in From A Distance....so one day...I secretly bought a 
NEW CD for myself....oddly the CD skips at the same places with mine 
too...any of you have that problem??  But anyway my friend always gives me a 
hard time now when I listen to Nanci..she says, "Oh I thought you didn't like 
her"..blah blah blah...she says with a grin...
But on with my Nanci of a good time...my bro and I were in the car and I 
turned on Nanci...Lone Star...and Ford Econoline....we had ourselves a 
blast...best time Ive had in a while....we were swaying, dancing, rocking 
(yes while I was driving)...laughing like hell cause we looked like 
retards..but we didn't care...we were having a "Nanci" of a good time...
She is so damn good!!!!

Jen

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Subject: NN: Ford Econoline!!!!?????
   From: Annavedo@aol.com

As the owner and proud driver of one FORD ECONOLINE, I have to say I feel 
mighty special "cruisin' along in my Ford Econoline"  I love the song!!!

Anne

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Subject: Re: NN: Ford Econoline!!!!?????
   From: Blueye2323@aol.com

I think the song takes a little getting used to...at first I was 
like...damn...this is too bluegrassy for me...eww...but it GROWS on ya...you 
know??

J

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Subject: Re: NN: Ford Econoline!!!!?????
   From: Tracy Applebaum (poohbear512@hotmail.com>

I'm probably the only one who thinks this, but what else is new... I've 
always liked the song.  Not the way I like Hard Life or Down and Outer, but 
it showed her funny, enthusiastic, young-at-heart side, not like the 
"serious" grown-up music I thought my parents listened to!

Tracy

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Subject: Re: NN: Ford Econoline!!!!?????
   From: "Diane B. Wilkes" (diwilkes@erols.com>

You are certainly not the only one who thinks this.  I have always loved
Ford Econoline, and was delighted the first time I saw Nanci do it in
concert.  The first time I saw her, she didn't do it, and I always enjoy it
when she does.  She really rocks out on it and you can tell Nanci loves
performing it.  My favorite version of this was at the Beacon Theatre, when
she mentioned that a famous country artist (I'm guessing Dolly Parton)
wanted to record it, but she wanted to change the word "bosom" because she
was afraid it would offend her audience.  Then Nanci got an impish look on
her face and said, "Bosom, bosom, bosom."  It was so cute.

I love almost every song Nanci has done, but I am less than enthralled with
From a Distance (and I am not blind to the fact that it's a song Nanci
didn't write).  It always amazes me that she gets tears in her eyes when
she performs it and seems to be in awe of the songwriting.  To me, a song
like Mary and Omie is ten times more profound, because of the specificity
of the writing, the characters LIVE, and the story is so right.  From a
Distance is like not seeing the trees for the forest, if you know what I
mean.  Too generalized for my tastes.

But I can live with From a Distance, even though I'd much rather hear her
perform Daddy Said or Mary and Omie live.  Daddy Said is probably my
favorite of her songs...but then there's On Grafton Street.  

And I LOVE Tumble and Fall.  And Cradle of the Interstate.  I've been known
to play both of these ten or fifteen times in a row.

Diane

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Subject: NN: Re: Story Songs
   From: Susan Peete (suepeete@cruzio.com>

The one song that I have been connected with for nearly two years is: 
THERE'S A LIGHT BEYOND THESE WOODS MARY MARGARET.

A group of NanciNetters and others have continued to help light the way for
Mary Margaret (Maggie) throughout her Lung Transplant ordeal. She continues
to improve and adjust to her new lung and medications, but still has the
burden of her medical expenses. Maggie has been through hard times and
sometimes requires a pep-talk from us to get her spirits back up.

To learn more on how you can help make that light brighter, please visit: 
http://www.candlelist.org/marty/

There are 4 James Hooker - Sea Prayers And Whispers CDs (never been opened)
on the *MUSIC BY CANDLELIGHT* web site:
http://www.cruzio.com/~billpeet/MusicByCandlelight
(All proceeds from CD sales goes to Maggie's Transplant fund).

Party Doll And Other Favorites by Mary Chapin Carpenter with review by
NanciNetter Shelly Brisbin is MUSIC BY CANDLELIGHT's Recommended Album Of
The Month.
Take a peek:
http://www.cruzio.com/~billpeet/MusicByCandlelight/AOM/aom.htm

Cheers

Sue

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Subject: Re: NN: Re: Sea Prayers
   From: Catelaw@aol.com

suepeete@cruzio.com writes:

> There are 4 James Hooker - Sea Prayers And Whispers CDs (never been opened)
>  on the *MUSIC BY CANDLELIGHT* web site:
>  http://www.cruzio.com/~billpeet/MusicByCandlelight
  
There were five, but I am now the delighted owner of one.  Much has been said 
on NN about this wonderful CD, but I can highly recommend it as a masterful 
work.  Music by Candlelight also has other GREEEEEEEAT! CD opportunities that 
NNers should look in on from time to time -- I do a lot of shopping there!

Cate, in Atlanta

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Subject: NN: Ford Econo Chick again..
   From: Annavedo@aol.com

...And here's another thing I like about Ford Econoline.  Nanci has a very 
low register, which she dips into fairly often.  Just try singing along with 
her on "Talk to Me While I'm Listening" (before you let it go, the greatest 
love I've ever known....  I can't hit the "before" note OR the 
"listeninggggggg" note!)   Well, anyhoo... despite all the winsome, 
lightheartedness her tremulous little voice implies, she rarely ventures into 
a higher range.  Almost always sings in her chest voice.  So I find it so 
irresistable that she hits those cute notes on "salt and "voice"...
"with a VOI-EEEECE  li-eeeeke   wi-eeee--eeee-eeene...."
Anne

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Subject: Re: NN: Ford Econo Chick again..
   From: RonHennesy@aol.com

((   ...And here's another thing I like about Ford Econoline.  Nanci has a 
very low register, which she dips into fairly often.  Just try singing along 
with her on "Talk to Me While I'm Listening" (before you let it go, the 
greatest love I've ever known....  I can't hit the "before" note OR the 
"listeninggggggg" note!)   Well, anyhoo... despite all the winsome, 
lightheartedness her tremulous little voice implies, she rarely ventures into 
a higher range.  Almost always sings in her chest voice.  So I find it so 
irresistable that she hits those cute notes on "salt" and "voice"...
"with a VOI-EEEECE li-eeeeke wi-eeee--eeee-eeene...." Anne >>

Hi Anne,

That note on "listening" is E in the middle of the bass clef, WAY low in the 
typical alto range!  I also love Nanci's velvety low singing in "Marilyn 
Monroe/Neon and Waltzes" from "Poet in My Window."  She gets down to E in 
that song too.

As far as I know, that's the low note in any of Nanci's songs.  Does anyone 
know of a song where she sings lower?

Cheers,

Ron Hennessy

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Subject: Re: NN: Ford Econo Chick again..
   From: Ed Maier (eddie@flash.net>
 
> ...And here's another thing I like about Ford Econoline.  Nanci has a very
> low register, which she dips into fairly often.  Just try singing along with
> her on "Talk to Me While I'm Listening" 

(snip>

The thing that stands out in my mind about Ford Econoline is that I was
singing it at the top of my lungs early one Sunday morning a few years
ago while driving to the store for a loaf of bread. Unfortunately, I
wasn't driving my stealth '56 Buick and got a speeding ticket. What is
really strange is that you NEVER see a cop out that early on Sunday. You
never see hardly anyone else, for that matter. Must have just been me
and the cop. Still like the song, though.

Ed
-- 
"I was drunk the night my mom got out of prison
And I went to pick her up in the rain
But before I could get to the station in my pickup  ...truck
She got runned over by a damned old train"

                        -Steve Goodman

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Subject: NN: Uderrated songs
   From: John Edward Graveling (kai21@dial.pipex.com>

As the discussion has been about favourite songs and songs people think 
are overrated, I have to admit that one of my favourite Nanci songs is 
"Fly By Night". I have seen Nanci perform live on some 20 occassions and 
despite shouting requests, and even writing to her in various formats, 
she has still never performed the song live at a concert I've attended.

Anyone out there ever heard this song performed live?

John Graveling.

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Subject: NN: Re: Uderrated songs
   From: "comp" (mikebarrett@comp.netlineuk.net>

Yes, a great song and one that I hadn't really appreciated until quite
recently. Same as "Ford Econoline" - that also is now one of my favourites.
And in the same "feisty" vein I also rate "Love Wore a Halo" very highly
with its wonderful lines "when the men loved the women and the women knew
what men were for"!

Mike " green with envy at the thought of someone who has seen Nanci live 20
times" Barrett

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Subject: NN: news from telluride?
   From: Catelaw@aol.com

just curious if anybody went and how they enjoyed it...

????????

cate, can you tell i have a deadline looming, in atlanta

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Subject: NN: Concert news U.K.
   From: John Edward Graveling (kai21@dial.pipex.com>

Well the news that Kim Richey gave me in Nashville has been confirmed. 
She is coming here to England as the support act on Raul Malo's (he of 
the Mavericks), first solo tour. Her new CD is now confirmed for release 
on August 3rd.

The other good news is that Catie Curtis has been confirmed as the 
support act on Mary Chapin Carpenter's tour here in October/November, so 
that promises to be another exceptional double bill. Catie's new CD, "A 
Crash Course In Roses" is also due on August 3rd, as is the new release 
from Alison Krauss, "Forget About It".

Tomorrow should see me get my hands on "A Far Cry From Dead" the 
posthumous release from Townes Van Zandt, and early next week sees the 
release of Lyle Lovett's "Live In Texas" CD. So things are looking up 
with plenty of good new music to listen to. With Kate Campbell's new 
release due in about 4 weeks and three weeks of touring in America to 
come there is a lot for me to look forward to and plan. The first week in 
Nashville, Monday 26th July onward looks great with Davis Raines playing 
in town on the Monday, Greg Trooper on the Tuesday and Jones & Leva on 
the Friday, and that's just the first week of my visit.

John "getting in the groove to return" Graveling.

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Subject: NN: Bob Harris Country Show, BNC and a tiny bit of Nanci
   From: "Matthew Bloomfield" (mailm@tthewb.u-net.com>

Hi folks,

Listened to the Bob Harris Country show on Radio 2 tonight, bit
disappointed that BNC wasn't guest for the whole show but Sand and
Water played live in the studio more than made up for it.  A little
dissapointed with the live version of This Kiss though.

Thought you might be interested in the following comments.

After play Late Night Grande Hotel earlier in the show Bob said "Well
we have been getting loads and loads of requests for Nanci Griffith
music", so hopefully we'll be hearing a bit more Nanci on his show.

They also played Something in Red which I haven't heard for a long
time but it is a great song, if anyone can send me any info
(particularly catalogue numbers) for Angela Cassette(sp?), I'd be
grateful.

Back to BNC, it was mentioned during the interview that the next album
is "mostly written" and some songs have been recorded.  Beth will be
finishing off some other songs when she gets back from Europe.  No
dates were given for a release, Beth said that she had left Warner
Bros. and was undecided what label she was going to sign to so I do
hope we won't be kept waiting too long.

For UK listeners on Bob Harris' 2200 show on Saturday there will be a
competition to win Circadeous(sp?) one of Beth's old albums that has
not been released over here.

My best to you all,

Matt

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Subject: Re: NN: Bob Harris Country Show, BNC and a tiny bit of Nanci
   From: John Edward Graveling (kai21@dial.pipex.com>

Matthew,

Just to put the record straight. The Cicadas CD which Bob Harris is 
offering as a prize on his Saturday show is by a group put together by 
Rodney Crowell. They have nothing whatsoever to do with Beth Nielsen 
Chapman.

Angela Kaset was the writer of "Something In Red", I'll try and dig a 
catalogue number out for you.

John Graveling.

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Subject: NN: NN T-shirt
   From: Pablo Supkay (pablos@corbis.com>

I have spent years trying to turn people on to Nanci's music, so that I
would have someone to share it with.  It has been hard to find anyone that
is as passionate about it as I am, so I am ecstatic to have found this
group.

Now, I want to wear a NanciNet t-shirt to the Seattle and Oregon shows as a
demonstration of my newfound solidarity with you guys.  My problem is that
all the NanciNet links I can find on the net are no longer active.  

Does anyone know where I can get a t-shirt?  And for that matter, where I
can find NanciNet Archives on the net?

Pablo

Favorite song - So Long Ago (reminds me of Austin)

// archives are at: http://brisbin.net/Nanci/archives/arc.html
// for t-shirt data, see below:
// [bp]

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Subject: NN: NanciNet T-Shirts
   From: Shawn Kimbro (kimbro@planetc.com>

Hi Nancinet, 

Here's a reminder that July 1, 1999, is the final date for ordering your
NanciNet T-Shirts.  This is the first printing in over a year and will
probably be my last, at least for a long time.  I've ordered the shirts
and expect to get them back and begin mailing them this week.  Since I
printed them before the ordering deadline, I ordered some additional
shirts in each size.  I expect to have enough to fill all last-minute
orders, but some sizes are getting scarce.  I'm attaching the ordering
instructions to this message, or, you can go to this web page for more
information:  http://www.geocities.com/~trailzzone/tshirt.html

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     **Please direct any question to me and not to the mailing list.** 

                     ****   THE NANCINET T-SHIRT    ****

A white t-shirt made of 100% heavy cotton.  The NanciNet logo appears on
the front and the URL for joining the mailing list is on the back.

         Available sizes: Medium, Large, Extra-Large, 2X and 3X.  

         Price:  $18.00 (U.S.)
         2X & 3X:  $20.00
         Shipping:  $3.00 for 1st shirt, $1.00 each additional
         International Shipping:  $7.00 for 1st shirt, $3.00 additional

                     Ordering Instructions
                   (please follow carefully)

Send check drawn on U.S. bank or money order for the price of shirt and
applicable shipping charge to the address below.  Include a note with
your return mailing address, e-mail address, and the sizes of shirt(s)
ordered.  Once you have placed your check in the mail, e-mail me
(kimbro@planetc.com) and tell me what you've ordered.  That way I can
get a head-start on the printing process.  Orders will be accepted until
July 1, 1999.  I'll mail the shirts out as quickly as possible, but
please allow 4-6 weeks for delivery.  They will be delivered by
U.S. priority mail.

International Orders:  Please send international money order or U.S.
cash.  

Send your order to:       Shawn Kimbro
                          4076 Priscilla Street
                          Morristown, TN  37814
                                  
NOTE:  Nanci Griffith has requested that a portion of the purchase price
of each shirt go to the American Cancer Society*.  A donation will be
made to the Tennessee chapter in her name once the project is completed.

Warm Regards, 
-Shawn
 _________________Nanci Is My Aeroplane__________________
|                  __       ____         Shawn Kimbro    |
| Stuck out in a   | \____o__/_/___|    Morristown, TN   |
| blizzard in its  \(>-----_/_/____]>         ~          |
| summer clothes            `o     |  kimbro@planetc.com |
|__________ http://www.geocities.com/~trailzzone ________|


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