// Hope you've had a good holiday weekend, for those of us in the 
// USA or Canada...here in upstate NY we've fought the hottest weather
// of the year...with no air conditioning. 
// Tonight -- songs of growing older, tribute CDs, Bush and Bela...
// Enjoy...[BP]

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Subject: NN: Responding at random
   From: Shelly Brisbin (sbrisbin@prismnet.com>

Andy wrote:
> the young singing diva from Wales,Charlotte Church has blown me away with
>her CD "Voices of an Angel".

As usual, Andy picks a winner:-) Charlotte (all of 13 years old) was
profiled last weekend on NPR. I had to stop making pancakes, sit down and
listen for five minutes. Her voice is truly amazing.

Trish Murphy
I like Trish Murphy: she puts on a pretty good live show--lots of
energy--and her songs are at least good, and sometimes excellent. She has a
new album coming out later this summer, and I've only head one song from it
so far, so my knowledge is kinda out of date, but heck, it's free, right?

Songs for a couple growing old(er)
I guess it's a sort of pet peeve with me that songs for a long-time couple
would necessarily have to be about aging. There are plenty of
straight-ahead love songs that are just as applicable to young and old
couples, as long as the love light's still aburnin'. From the list I'm
compiling for my sister (she's 34, and about to be married), here are a few
that illustrate what I mean.

Mary & Omie (Nanci)
Roseville Fair (Nanci)
No Kinda Dancer (Robert Earl Keen)
Book of Dreams, (Bruce Springsteen)

-shelly (married 10.5 years and still singing "Passionate Kisses" every
chance I get)

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Subject: NN: To Live's To Fly
   From: John Edward Graveling (kai21@dial.pipex.com>

Well friends it is time for a wholehearted recommendation. Being a life 
long fan of Townes Van Zandt, his posthumously released cd, "A Far Cry 
>From Dead" finally saw the light of day this week. I opened it 
apprehensively, for here is Townes backed by other musicians, and I've 
always enjoyed his music most backed only by his acoustic guitar. Fear 
not, the music is not only sympathetic, but adds to the songs, some of 
which I have many times in my collection. I choked up a couple of times 
at the poignancy of "To Live Is To Fly" and "Rex's Blues", even though 
I'd heard them both many times before. Something to do with the great man 
no longer being with us. His singing is wonderful and it all adds up to 
an essential listen to those who like to analyse lyrics and wonder at the 
art of songwriting.

If you have no Townes in your collection this is a great starting point, 
although the esential listen is the recently released cd "Live From The 
Old Quarter, Houston" which is back in print in it's original 27 song 
format.

John "there ain't no dark till something shines" Graveling.

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Subject: NN: New Grass Revival
   From: Randy Manning (animals@htc.net>

Hi,...I am a lurker,...but love Nanci.   

Hey,..Nanci netters!  Ever heard of "The New Grass Revival"?  
Who are they?
Where are they?
Are they still making music?

Randy Manning

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Subject: Re: NN: New Grass Revival
   From: John Edward Graveling (kai21@dial.pipex.com>

New Grass Revival, as far as I am aware, disbanded some ten years ago. 
Sam Bush now does session work, John Cowan leads a soul/r'n'b aggregation 
of Nashville sessioneers in Grooveyard (he's been out of action with 
vocal/throat problems), and Bela Fleck is a successful road musician with 
his Flecktones.

Hope that helps, people closer at hand might have more up to date 
information. But last summer Grooveyard had a residency, Friday nights, 
at Third and Lindsley in downtown Nashville.

John Graveling.

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Subject: Re: NN: New Grass Revival
   From: Susan Peete (suepeete@cruzio.com>

I was a big fan of New Grass Revival when the band members were: Sam Bush
(vocals, mandolin); Bela Fleck (vocals, banjo); John Cowan (vocals, bass
guitar) Pat Flynn (vocals, guitar). The band is broken up now but Sam, Bela
and John get together every year for the Telluride Bluegrass Festival and on
other occasions. Those guys have there own bands now and are doing very
well. Bill and I went to the same High School as Pat Flynn did many...years
ago. Pat is the only one of the band that has dropped out of sight. At
least, I haven't heard anything about him lately. At one time, I think I
heard he was working as a studio musician, but I don't really know. I have
to say John Cowan was my favorite in the band. WOWSA... :-) can that man
sing, His lungs just don't quit. John has an R&B CD out called Soul'd Out. 

We have four of New Grass Revival albums:

Hold To A Dream
On The Boulevard
Friday Night In America
Live

And I recommend all of them. Although...I'm not sure if you can still get
'em. But I would surely try.

Cheers

Sue

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Subject: Re: NN: New Grass Revival
   From: John Edward Graveling (kai21@dial.pipex.com>

Susan,

Pat Flynn plays acoustic guitar on eight tracks (he doubles on bouzouki 
on one) on Austin Cunningham's debut disc "Let That Poor Boy Sing". It's 
a very fine record indeed, and although Austin has co-written many a hit 
country song (mainly with Allen Shamblin), this is a really fine, 
slightly left of field singer-songwriters effort. It is worthy of 
attention and getting regular spins on my deck. It's on Senior Partners 
Records (SP72859), and there is web site information at: songs.com/austin

John "days they come and go, like rain on a conga drum" Graveling.

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Subject: Re: NN: New Grass Revival
   From: Petop@aol.com

(( Who are they?>>
Sam Bush (vocals, fiddle, guitar, mandolin), Courtney Johnson (banjo, vocals) 
Ebo Walker (bass), Curtis Burch (dobro, guitar, vocals). Walker left in 1972, 
was replaced by Butch Robbins, who then left and was replaced by John Cowan. 
Johnson and Burch leftg in 1981 and were replaced by Bela Fleck (banjo) and 
Pat Flynn (mandolin, guitar). It was with this lineup that they became fairly 
popular.

(( Where are they?>>
Bush disbanded the group after the 1989 album "Friday in America"

 ((Are they still making music? >>
Not to my knowledge.

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Subject: NN:New Grass Revival
   From: CADLAC@aol.com

Hi All,
I have to agree with Susan Peete that the music is well worth having. I have 
seen the band before they split at the Strawberry bluegrass festival and 
again at Grass Valley I think. ??? Where ever it was it was a treat. John 
Cowan has such an AWSOME voice with power that can rock the hills be it in 
California or Colorado. A few years ago Garth Brooks had a hit with "Callin' 
Baton Rouge." Lots of folks was wild over the song but I had heard if first 
with John as the Lead singer. Brooks is OK but John is GREAT.
If you can find the CDs you wont be disappointed.

Kirk Saville
Franktown, CO

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Subject: NN: Re: Nanci at the House of Blues
   From: George Golob (geogo@earthlink.net>

Just reminding LA people that Nanci is performing at the House of Blues 
on the Sunset Strip on July 22...this gig got added later after 
Humphrey's in San Diego was announced and some of y'all may have missed 
it.  Even though the HOB has no seating, the neat part is there's 
nothing stopping you from being right up in front of Nanci if you get 
there early enough!!
Also Katy Moffatt is appearing at the Anaheim Downtown Comm. Center on 
August 21 (949-646-1964)
HOB tickets can be ordered direct at 323 848 5100 so you can bypass 
Ticketmaster charges
george

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Subject: NN: Return of a Frog (minimal nanci content)
   From: "jenny.frog" (jenny.frog@virgin.net>

Hi everyone!!! (it's great to be able to say that!)

> BTW, looking at the archive made me think of old friends i haven't 
>seen on here lately.....jenny frog? 

I'M BACKKKK!!!!! it's the return of non-capitalization Ha...time for
everyone to start dodging the sharp knives i throw (hi john G) and
prentending to laugh at my bizarre scottish sense of humour....hee hee
hee.
        i REally missed you guys! i know we have our lil' 'family feuds' as
cate so sweetly put it...but we all love each other really....:) i've
been offline for way to long. My modem stopped working sometime in mid-
february for no apparent reason. i left half of you guys
mid-conversation, right in the middle of arranging to trade some nanci
stuff, if i still owe anyone anything, let me know, 'k?? you guys know
who you are. but, anyway,  it's fixed now...thanks to the faeries amber
sent over across the wires, thanks gal.
        Ok, so i am really, really jealous of everyone who gets to see nanci
this summer. i swear, if i don't se her again before the millenium
turns....my brain will implode, i'll die...the Y2K bug'll get me.
         meantime, i've been filling in the pages with a jewel concert
(rotten), a great steve earle concert and a really, really, really great
lucy kaplansky show!!! was anybody here at the show in glasgow?? i could
tell you all a really funny story about it, how i made lucy jealous and
became her 'lifelong firend' at the same time, but i won't cuz it'd fill
an e-mail the size of the atlantic and also , noboyd'd laugh! I guess i
should tell you what she said about the NN, though...or should i?
hmmm....i'l  keep you in suspense. 
        Is anybody going to the cambridge folk fest this summer?? that's apart
from paul and emily....(not long now guys!!) Loads of great people are
playing...james T, eric bibb, stacey earle...(!)
        Also, in case anybody's interested, john prine is playing over here
next week, london, glasgow royal concert hall on the 9th and a date in
dublin. anybody got plans to see MCC in october/november??...lucy's
apparently coming back in december....Oh, ok, i'll leave all the new
music recommendations to Mr John graveling...;) that's after i ask if
anybody's heard of steve poltz, he's a singer/songwriter from sandiego,
cal, who's touring with jewel right now...anybody know where i can get
his cd??
Now playing: Hootie and nanci singing 'earth stopped cold at dawn'
ahhhh......     
luv jenny*, 'i just started a nanci thread on the shawn c list, aren't i
really cool????'

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Subject: Re: NN: Return of a Frog (minimal nanci content)
   From: John Edward Graveling (kai21@dial.pipex.com>

Welcome back Jenny, and needless to say I have the Steve Poltz cd, "One 
Left Shoe". I picked it up in Nashville last summer, after Bob Harris had 
been playing him a lot on his Radio Two and GLR shows. It's a decent cd, 
nothing I'd go overboard about. There are 15 tracks, some long, over five 
minutes, some very short, around the minute mark. You could ask Bert at 
Hot Wax (0131 228 2022) if he's got one in stock. If you really want one 
badly and can't get hold of it, give me a shout and I'll pick one up for 
you Stateside in 3 weeks time.

John "waiting to feel the blade" Graveling.

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Subject: NN: Growing old(er)
   From: "Julie Anne" (julie-anne@home.com>

> Are You Tired Of Me, My Darling?
> Who Knows Where The Time Goes?
> Come On, Come On  (M.C. Carpenter)
> Love Is A Hard Waltz
> Roseville Fair

Hi Maureen,

A few more crossed my mind.  Forgive me if any have already been mentioned.
I hope you'll share your final song list with us -

Poems, Prayers & Promises (John Denver)
Last Night When We Were Young (Frank Sinatra)
The Dance (Garth)
Through The Years (Janis Ian)

Julie.

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Subject: NN: Gulf Coast Highway
   From: "Kristina Plath" (flyer23@angelfire.com>

Anne, 

Your story about GCH was enough to have me all teary-eyed here at the
keyboard.  There are so many Nanci songs we can realte to... that's the beauty
of her music, I feel.  When you're listening along to a new album, and all of
sudden you feel understood.  
It's a great feeling.

Kristina

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Subject: NN: Head's Up
   From: Shawn Kimbro (kimbro@planetc.com>

Hey, friends--

What do Lucinda Williams, Gillian Welch, Steve Earle, Whiskeytown,
Sheryl Crow, Cowboy Junkies, Wilco, Julianna Hatfield, David Crosby,
Elvis Costello, Beck, The Mavericks, The Pretenders, and Chris Hillman
have in common? 

We like 'em.

But besides that, there's "Return of the Grievous Angel - A Tribute To
Gram Parsons" scheduled for release July 13th, 1999.  That's a great
line-up for any compilation disc.  What could make it better?

It's produced by Emmylou Harris.  

Highlights include Welch and Rawlings singing "Hickory Wind."  Steve
Earle teams up with Chris Hillman for "High Fashion Queen."  Wilco
covers "100 Years."  Emmylou joins several artists including The
Pretenders for "She," and Sheryl Crow for Juanita." And, Lucinda
Williams and David Crosby duet on the title cut. 

Watch this site for details: 
http://www.almosounds.com/parsons/index.htm
 
  .---.  ___________
  |===| ////SEE/////\       Warm Regards
  |   ////ROCK////[]\        -Shawn
  |  ////CITY////|__|\
  |  ^|^^^^^^^^^^|  |    "Years go by and everything changes
  |   |          |  |      But nothing does"  -Kate Campbell
  |___|___[X]____|__|
Bethlehem Coal:  http://www.geocities.com/~trailzzone/beth.html

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Subject: NN: Re: [moonpie] Head's Up
   From: John Edward Graveling (kai21@dial.pipex.com>

Hey bro',

Here in England one of our radio jocks has already treated us to two cuts 
from the Gram Parsons tribute cd. The title track sung by Lucinda and 
David Crosby, and Gillian and David's reading of "Hickory Wind". Good as 
they are they pale compared to the genius that was Gram Parsons, nobody 
ever sung sad songs better than Gram, and that's still the case 26 years 
after his tragic demise. 

If you want a good read get Ben Fong-Torres' "Hickory Wind - The life and 
times of Gram Parsons". If you want the real thing buy "GP" and "Grievous 
Angel" a wonderful two on one cd featuring the two great, great albums 
Gram recorded in '72 and '73. You cannot beat the real thing, and aren't 
we all getting a little tired of these tribute cd's. If record companies 
got their acts together they should spend the money better marketing the 
artists themselves, no matter how old the music, rather than wannabee's 
trying to replicate somebody else's music. The only covers cd that really 
hit the mark for me was Lyle Lovett's "Step Inside This House", partly 
because he covered songs written by great writers which had not been 
recorded or were obscure. It's the reason "Cry, Cry, Cry" left me cold, I 
had most of the originals and with one exception they were vastly 
superior to Lucy, Dar and Richard's versions, and I love the music of 
Lucy K.

John "keep music live AND original" Graveling.

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Subject: Re: NN:Gram Parsons
   From: Steve Robertson (stever@mindspring.com>

I second that nomination of the GP/Grievous Angel double CD. I just
picked it up about a month ago and was amazed at how up-to-date it
sounds after all these years. The only problem is that now I feel
compelled to expand my collection of classics to include the Byrds, the
Flying Burrito Bros., etc.,etc. 

Hidin' Out in the Georgia Pines,
Steve Robertson

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Subject: NN: Tribute Cd's
   From: John Edward Graveling (kai21@dial.pipex.com>

I suppose the thing I sometimes forget is that not everyone buys as many 
cd's as me, so they may not be as familiar with all the artists as I am. 
If a tribute cd helps sell more of the artists original work fine, 
although I'm not sure it always works like that, but if artists start 
jumping on the bandwagon and hoping to increase their own sales through 
featuring on these discs then I'm dubious. What do other people think?

Bill, I do have the "Live 1973 with the Fallen Angels" album, and yes 
it's good, but I personally wouldn't put it quite up there with "GP" and 
"Grievous Angel".

On the growing old theme how about these words to say it all:

"Pancho needs your prayers it's true
But save a few for Lefty too
He just did what he had to do
Now he's GROWING OLD"

TVZ 1972.

John "A Far Cry From Dead" Graveling.

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Subject: Re: NN: Tribute Cd's
   From: Tracy Applebaum (poohbear512@hotmail.com>

John and all,

I really don't have a problem with tribute cd's, because one, I do thinik 
that they help boost sales of the original artists' recordings.  It seems to 
me that tributes come out when someone's work is beginning to become 
less-known, and sales are slipping, and the tribute cd sends kind of a 
wake-up call out there, like "HELLO, there is some really good music here.  
See, these artists thought enough of it to record it, maybe you should think 
enough of it to consider buying it."  AT least that's how I see it.  While I 
am sure that some artists see the tributes as a way to boost their OWN 
record sales, and while I htink that is wrong, I also think people who go 
out and buy the album, for whatever reason, might think, OK, if [insert 
greedy singer's name here] likes this song, and recorded it, and I like 
_____ music in general, maybe I ought to hear more from [insert songwriter's 
name here.]  Aren't cover songs the same way?  Martina McBride redords 
"Independence Day" [BTW, Happy July 4 Everyone!] because it's a great, 
powerful song with a message that needs to be heard.  People buy the album 
because they like her voice, her style, whatever.  Then they hear this song, 
think, "who IS this Gretchen Peters; I've got to get more of her stuff" and 
up go GP's sales.  Or am I being overly naive here?

Tracy

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Subject: NN: Mary and Omie
   From: Steve Robertson (stever@mindspring.com>

Mary and Omie isn't mentioned very often these days, so this seems like
a good time to bring up a question I've always wondered about. While you
certainly can look at this as a love song, it also comments on the Civil
Rights situation. Nanci seems to be implying that New Orleans was a bad
place to raise a black family, but the short trip to Houston allowed
them complete freedom to be a member of the black middle class.

My view of the Civil Rights struggle over the last half-century is
strongly influenced by the fact that I've always lived in the Atlanta
metro area- usually considered to be one of the best locations for all
segments of the black community. I can see where parts of Louisiana
outside of New Orleans might be intolerant, but New Orleans seems like
it would be a very liberal and open society. On the other hand, I don't
think I've ever heard Houston mentioned in connection with Civil Rights-
except for this song.

Do any of you know how accurate Nanci's implications might be?

Hidin' Out in the Georgia Pines-
Overjoyed That It Stopped Raining,
Steve Robertson

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Subject: Re: NN: Mary and Omie--a dumb question
   From: Tracy Applebaum (poohbear512@hotmail.com>

Hi!  I wanted to ask a question about the Mary and Omie ting that someone 
who has been around longer than I have might be able to answer; someting 
abut the song that has always bothered me is that it sounds like she's 
singing, "I was waiting for my Omie to take me out of the South," aand then, 
as the joyous solution to heir problems they "settle down here in Houston."  
Houston isn't in the South?????  I hadn't heard of either Houston or New 
Orleans as being particularly involved, on either side, in the Civil Rights 
Movement, but that just might be my ignorance; can someone enlighten me?  I 
love the song, I just don't get that move-out-of-the-South-to-Houston-Texas 
thing.

Tracy "finally home again home again home in Austin" Applebaum

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Subject: Re: NN: Mary and Omie--a dumb question
   From: Annavedo@aol.com

   From what I understand about the South/Texas thing (and it's very limited 
from this Native Californian), my sister-in-law from Ft. Worth tells me that 
indeed, Texas is NOT considered part of the south.  I think the sentiment is 
attached on either side, that neither wants to claim the other!  I learned 
this quite a long time ago, so when I heard the words to the song, I knew 
that Texas is not "The South".  What I didn't know, however, was that Houston 
was somehow a more desirable, tolerant place to live.
Anne 

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Subject: Re: NN: Mary and Omie--a dumb question
   From: Somer Newland (somervell@hotmail.com>

>From someone who has lived both smack dab in the middle of the Deep South 
(central Mississippi) and Houston, I can say that there is a world of 
difference.  While I wouldn't go so far as to say the racial problems are 
less here in Houston, I *would* say they are different and a black couple 
would have more opportunities in Houston than in the rural South.

Somer "sweatin' the 4th away in Houston" Newland

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Subject: Re: NN: Mary and Omie--a dumb question
   From: o416 (o416@erols.com>

Folks,

I'm 44 years old, raised in New Orleans, and started school in 
white-only public schools that didn't desegregate until I was in 2nd 
grade.  New Orleans's reputation as being more racial tolerent than 
other southern cities is probably undeseved.  It is more racially 
complicated--but I won't let the historian in me lecture you.  I will 
say Texas both is southern (slaveholding state that joined the CSA) and 
isn't.  Houston strikes me as more southern than Dallas or Fort Worth or 
Austin or San Antonio.  East Texas is generally regarded the most 
"southern" part of the state.

But as for Mary and Omie I've always had the impression, based on no 
evidence at all, but perhaps suggested by the back cover photograph on 
ONCE IN A VERY BLUE MOON, that Nanci was relating something that really 
happened to a black family she knew.  So whatver Houston, New Orleans, 
Texas and the South mean in cosmic terms, to the woman Mary is based on 
Houston seemed a world of difference.  If it's not based on fact, of 
course, it reveals again Nanci's great talent as a storyteller.

Reid "finally living back in New Orleans" Mitchell

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Subject: Re: NN: Mary and Omie--a dumb question
   From: Petop@aol.com

Anne writes:
((  Texas is NOT considered part of the south. >>

It really depends on what section of the state you're talking about. Parts of 
East Texas, especially around Lufkin and Nacogdoches, identify more with the 
southern culture. That association diminishes as you move west. From Fort 
Worth on, it's mostly cowboy country.

 (( What I didn't know, however, was that Houston 
was somehow a more desirable, tolerant place to live.>>
Actually I have always described Houston as "L.A. with all the fun taken out 
of it."


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Subject: Re: NN: Mary and Omie--a dumb question
   From: Petop@aol.com

(( I *would* say ... a black couple 
 would have more opportunities in Houston than in the rural South. >>

   I lived in Houston in the mid-50s when Houston was very segregated and in 
Austin when Houston's 5th Ward erupted. I also lived in the mid-south before 
that and the only difference I found was that the tension was higher in 
Houston. But I would also say that, if you are referring to economic 
opportunities, any couple is going to have more opportunities in any urban 
area than most rural areas, regardless of the city or regardless of the race. 
But I would also suggest that a black couple could have more opportunities in 
today's metropolitan Atlanta than today's metropolitan Houston.

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Subject: NN: Re: Underrated songs
   From: Mike Barrett (mikebarrettuk@hotmail.com>

How about nearly a whole albumful of underrated songs - Blue Roses From The 
Moons?

People don't seem to have a lot of time for it generally, and I must admit 
that when I first heard it I wasn't overly impressed. Apart from the superb 
"Not My Way Home" the rest seemed pretty average to me. I found Nanci's 
accent on "Roses" rather strange, I preferred Rodney Crowell doing "She 
Ain't Going Nowhere", the new version of "Gulf Coast Highway" wasn't as good 
as the first one, "Saint Teresa" didn't seem to have any tune at all, 
"Wouldn't That be Fine" had awful backing,etc etc.

But....when I went back to a few months down the line, I started to warm to 
it and now I rate it highly - it's probably still in the bottom half of my 
favourite Nanci albums list, but all that shows is how strong the 
competition is. And talking of feisty songs - which we were a few days back 
- I do like "Morning Train". In fact with one exception I really enjoy the 
whole album, although "Not My way Home" remains the standout.

The exception mentioned is "I Fought The Law" - I just can't get to like 
that at all!

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Subject: NN: Re: Growing Old(er)
   From: Amp7932@aol.com

Some suggestions for the compilation celebrating 25 years of marriage -

Heaven - Nanci - LNGH

Are You Tired Of Me Darling - nanci - OVOR

Sinead O'Connor - Nothing Compares 2 You

Michele Pfeiffer - Funny Valentine - The Fabulous Baker Brothers Soundtrack

Carly Simon - I Got It Bad

It would be great to see the complete list of love songs that people send in 
or the compilation that is put together by Maureen Parr.


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