NanciNet Digest 7-28-99

// More on 45s, a look at Nanci's upcoming new CD, a review of 
// Kate Campbell's new release, and more!
// Enjoy...[BP]
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Subject: NN: Nanci in Saratoga, CA
   From: "Jim Mehl" (mehl@ihot.com>

  I saw Nanci perform yesterday afternoon on the "Front Lawn"
at Villa Montalvo in Saratoga, CA. She looked great (healthy,
radiant, lots of energy). It was a really good show. She did
several numbers from her upcoming CD (Dust Bowl Symphony I
think it's called). It's a great venue (sunshine, temp in the
mid-80's, lots of trees).
  I'm new on this list, although I've been a Nanci fan since
1991 or so. I also saw her live at the Mountain Winery in
Saratoga in 1993.
  Does anyone know if John Alvord still has the NanciNet
badges mentioned in the FAQ? The email address mentioned
there (jalvo@cloud9.net) doesn't seem to work any more.
I saw several NanciNet t-shirts at the concert. I think
I remember John from years ago on something called VNET.

Jim Mehl
Los Gatos, CA
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Subject: Re: NN: Nanci in Saratoga, CA
   From: John Alvord (jalvo@mbay.net>

I still have the badges. Current email is jalvo@mbay.net, having moved to
Big Sur, California.

I worked at IBM Research from 1983 to 1988 and a lot of folks remember me.
jga00 was the userid.

john alvord
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Subject: Re: NN: Nanci in Saratoga, CA
   From: Ron Crain (ron@arken.net>

>I saw Nanci perform yesterday afternoon on the "Front Lawn"
>at Villa Montalvo in Saratoga, CA. She looked great (healthy,
>radiant, lots of energy). 

In my opinion, Nanci appeared HAPPY.  That's the one word I could come up
with to sum it all up.  She seemed to enjoy herself very much during the
show - even though I felt she should have played longer and Iris Dement
should have played less.  Most attendees may not know this, but Nanci was
on the 2nd floor balcony of the mansion watching Iris's performance - I was
strolling around then and saw her and the band members.

>I also saw her live at the Mountain Winery in
>Saratoga in 1993.

A much better venue if you ask me!  The curfew at the Mountain Winery is
10:00 instead of 7pm.  That would have been the Flyer tour - I can't
remember who opened the show - wasn't it Jimmy Dale Gilmore?
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Subject: RE: NN: Nanci in Saratoga, CA
   From: "Susan Krauss" (susankrauss@earthlink.net>

I too was disappointed that the opener (Iris Dement) played longer then the
headliner (Nanci).  I also don't understand the curfew as I've been to many
shows at Villa Montalvo this summer that didn't even start until 7:30pm so
what's with the 7pm curfew?  I like Iris but I wanted Nanci.  Yes she seemed
very happy and her voice was strong.  I just wish I could have heard more of
her!!

Ron - I think I was sitting in your row but I didn't know it was you.  I did
talk to Dan and Joe & Kathy and of course, Bill & Sue.

susan
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Subject: Re[2]: NN: Nanci in Saratoga, CA
   From: dan.gerson@mckhboc.com

 >>I also saw her live at the Mountain Winery in
>>Saratoga in 1993.

>A much better venue if you ask me!  The curfew at the Mountain Winery is
>10:00 instead of 7pm.  That would have been the Flyer tour - I can't
>remember who opened the show - wasn't it Jimmy Dale Gilmore?

  It was Jimmy Dale but it was July of 1994, not 93. Anybody remeber the
  May 1989 shows at the Great Amercian Music Hall? The best I've ever
  seen.
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Subject: NN: DUets
   From: Jenny Jones (strangelittlestar@yahoo.com>

Hey, not that this has anything to do with anything,
BUT,
Wasn't there talk of nanci joing john prine on his
album of duets to be released this summer? i htink i
read about it around easter time in MOJO...others
joining john included iris dement and emmylou,
possibly lucinda williams, i think....THis album would
definetly rock, anybody know anything about it?
BY the way, it'd be kind of nasty to snap a nanci
record in half...or maybe just a laugh...as long as it
doesn't belong ot me
jenny*

===
If i could i'd tell you now
there are no roads that do not bend
Days like flowers bloom and fade
and do not come again
we've only go these times we're livin in
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Subject: Re: NN:45rpms
   From: Shawn Kimbro (kimbro@planetc.com>

Jenny Jones wrote:
 
> ok,
> WHAT THE HELL IS A 45RPM?????????
> jenny*, i am just a barroom child...

And therefore too young to be using that kind of language, young lady!

Just teasing, Jenny. Your question reminds me of something that happened
a few years back.  I was going through some old boxes and found my
collection of 45rpm records.  When the kids came home from school they
didn't have a clue what they were, and asked if they were a new kind of
CD.  I felt very old at 37.

45rpms are vinyl recordings. A little bigger than a CD, there was one
song on one side and another on the "flip" side. They're called 45rpms
because the turntable they were played on had to be set at fourty-five
revolutions per minute.  That's different from vinyl albums which are
usually played at 33.3 revolutions per minute. 

Warm Regards, 
-Shawn
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Subject: Re: NN:45rpms
   From: PRobin5478@aol.com

Dear List --

I can't believe that someone doesn't know what a 45 is!  Spinning singles is 
one of the great things a listener/rock-and-roller can do.

I have boxes and boxes of them (mostly now put on countless compilation 
tapes.)

Anybody out there ever read "High Fidelity?"

Peter in SoCal (still buzzing from House of Blues, wondering if anybody has a 
permanent record of the event -- say, on, CD-R....)
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Subject: NN: (no subject)
   From: nanci-approval@world.std.com

Sweetheart, a....45 is a little disc that looks like a flying saucer, about the
size of a British tea cup saucer, with a small hole in the middle...and we used
to spin them on a thing we called the turntable which would amplify sound
through speakers into our  living rooms and bedrooms...it spun at 45
revolutions per minute, which is why they dubbed it a "45"...

Vicki "call me old but not forgotten" Stein
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Subject: Re: NN: (no subject)
   From: "Mark" (catfan@radiks.net>

> Sweetheart, a....45 is a little disc that looks like a flying saucer,

Now I really feel old...

Mark
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Subject: Re: NN: I read that last message, and I gorked
   From: Chris Stern (cwstern@mediaone.net>

Some of us (lurking) here remember and bought (only once in my case) 78
rpm records!

Chris Stern
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Subject: Re: NN: I read that last message, and I gorked
   From: MISTERCD@webtv.net (SID PORTER)

Hi Hans,     
     Actually, I think the large hole in 45's was part of it's built in
self protection.  The hole was so you could hold the disk with your
thumb in the hole and the rest of your hand on the edge of the disk.
You will also notice that the label part of the disk is thicker than the
grooved part, so they could be stacked without the grooves touching.
Now i'm going to show my age!! My first 45 was "Earth Angel" by the
Penguins.

Sid "I still have all of my 45's" Porter
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Subject: Re: NN: I read that last message, and I gorked
   From: "Mike Barrett" (mikebarrettuk@hotmail.com>

> Now i'm going to show my age!! My first 45 was "Earth Angel" by the
> Penguins.

This is really bringing back memories!

The first 45 I bought was one which no-one outside of the UK has probably
ever heard of - "Poor Me" by Adam Faith. It was number one in the hit parade
( sorry, the charts ) over here, but that was back in the days when British
artists meant nothing in the States. The really big names over here - Adam
Faith, Cliff Richard, Billy Fury - never got anywhere in America. Then along
came the Beatles and everything changed.....

Mike "lost in the sixties tonight" Barrett
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Subject: Re: NN: I read that last message, and I gorked
   From: Jenny Jones (strangelittlestar@yahoo.com>

HI my little record bin buds,

> I find it hard to believe that anyone who considers
> themself a true fan of 
> music (no matter what your age), would fail to
> recognize the term for the 
> music medium that prevailed for, what.....30 years?

UH, i was sorta joking...

> Don't tell me you've never at least seen a record
> player and the numbers "45" 
> and "33"....  I'm not buying it!!!

UH, alright so you caught me and there i was
pretending to be a cool cd child of teh 90s,
well....Actaully, I own LNGH and OFSE on vinyl and for
me, it;s the only way to listne to them. the way i did
when they first came out. true, my dad wouldn't let me
near his record deck, but 'i'm older now!!' ANd by the
wya, to listen to BOb DYlan on anything BUT vinyl is a
crime.....

jenny*, caught red handed diggin through the record bins...
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Subject: NN: 7/25/99 Villa Montalvo
   From: "Linda Oliver" (loliver@flash.net>

Hi everyone,

I just got back from Nanci's show at Villa Montalvo; what a beautiful 
place! To see both Nanci and Iris Dement on the same beautiful Sunday 
afternoon is a dream come true!  I was hoping they would play a song or
two together, but they did not.  Logistically, Villa Montalvo is 
somewhat difficult.  There is a choice between paying $20 to park, or a 
shuttle bus to another parking lot.   I wore my beautiful new Nanci-net 
t-shirt but saw only one other person wearing one.

Here's Nanci's set list (please correct any errors):
Kate Wolf's Across the Great Divide
Trouble in These Fields
The Speed of Loneliness
Outbound Plane
Love at the Five & Dime
These Days
Not My Way Home (?)
I Live On a Battlefield
Wall of Death
Gulf Coast Highway
It's a Hard Life
If I Had a Hammer
Tell Me How (Buddy Holly tune)
This Heart
Wing & a Wheel

The crowd was surprisingly unresponsive, but I had a wonderful time. =20

Waiting for September and a new Nanci CD, Linda Oliver
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Subject: NN: Rosaryville
   From: Shawn Kimbro (kimbro@planetc.com>

Rosaryville - Kate Campbell
Compass Records

There is an inevitable point in life when we realize that we've arrived
at our place in the world.  For most it happens in a private moment with
a thought like, "Ah-ha, I am now what I am going to be when I grow up."
Although that realization often answers some questions, it frequently
raises many more. In her latest album, Rosaryville, Kate Campbell
confirms her place as a first class songwriter, then shares with us some
of her questions.

It isn't unusual for Campbell to include her listeners in her efforts to
make sense of her world.  In her previous three albums she's written
entertaining stories about living in the South. Her songs take on
powerful social issues with universal appeal.  Indeed, she may be more
popular in the Northeastern United States than in her native
Mississippi. Her touring schedule frequently takes her to New England,
and the region's influence is somewhat apparent in songs like
"Rosemary," a tribute to Campbell's mother who she thinks sings like
Rosemary Clooney.

But there's no mistaking the fact that this album is set deeply in the
South. The title track is about a real place, the Rosaryville Spirit
Life Center, a wrought iron-gated Dominican retreat in Ponchatoula,
Louisiana.  The song seems to be about a spiritual journey toward 
Catholicism, a theme that is repeated in nearly every offering on the
disc.  It seems a bit odd that the daughter of a past president of the
Southern Baptist Convention would be singing about joining a convent. 
But throughout the album Campbell addresses what must be a intense
struggle with her individual theology:

"Come on let's go down the road to Rosaryville, who knows what we will
find?"

What we find is a collection of deeply personal disclosures. "In My
Mother's House" is a introspective account of visits to her parents'
home. "Sometimes we disagree on politics and theology," she sings. Then
reveals, "I am a prodigal daughter, but in my wandering I have found
there is a wideness in mercy, and there will always be a place for me in
my mother's house."

At a recent concert, Campbell announced that she has a recording of
gospel songs in the works, so perhaps the prodigal daughter hasn't
strayed completely away from her Protestant roots.  Still, the road to
Rosaryville leads through some catechumenal verses. "Rosa's Coronas," is
about a lady who spends her days rolling Cuban cigars, imagines her
mother's life in America, and looks forward to a visit from the Pope. 
In "Porcelain Blue" Campbell offers this stained glass prayer:

"Blessed Mary please don't slumber, pray for us who need your care."

Not every tune addresses religious issues. My favorite song on the album
is "Look Away." It is a tune which uses the neo-gothic setting of the
Windsor Ruins near Port Gibson, Mississippi to examine the conflicting
feelings of pride and guilt inherent in living in the South:

"I was taught by elders wiser, love your neighbor love your God
 Never saw a cross on fire never saw an angry mob
 I saw sweet magnolia blossoms, I chased lightning bugs at night
 Never dreaming others saw our way of life in black and white"

I also favor "Fade To Blue."  On this song Campbell reveals her country
music influences by including traditional guitar licks and a repeated
chorus:

"Blue as the flame in the candle he lights
 Bluer than indigo ink
 Bluer than Beale Street on Saturday night
 Blue as her eyes used to be"

Kate Campbell produced Rosaryville and wrote every song, even supplying
her own harmony vocals on several cuts.  The musicianship is upbeat and
solid with Don Johnson playing bass, Kenny Vaughn on guitar, and Fran
Breen on drums. Mike Hanna and Walt Aldridge round out the band with
keyboards and vocals.  Legendary Mississippi bluesman Spooner Oldham
plays Wurlitzer on a few tracks.  Rosaryville sounds enough like
Campbell's other efforts to be immediately recognizable, but there is
some departure from her earlier style.  The Muscle Shoals rhythms which
marked previous discs have been replaced in part by southern rock sounds
reminiscent of The Allman Brothers or Little Feat.

It's clear through this album that Campbell is comfortable enough with
her songwriting talent to take some artistic chances. It's also evident
that she is self-confident enough to openly discuss some of her deepest
personal issues. I encourage everyone to travel along with her down this
Spanish moss-lined road.  Take the leap of faith with Kate Campbell
toward Rosaryville.  

-Shawn Kimbro
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Subject: NN: "High Fidelity"--minimal Nanci content
   From: DebraMunn@aol.com

Hi, All,

Yep, I usually lurk, but someone mentioned Nick Hornby's novel, "High 
Fidelity," so I had to jump right in.  It's a wonderful book, about a 30-ish 
man's search for love in London. The protagonist owns a record shop, and adds 
in lots of musical commentary as he describes what he feels.  One of the best 
novels to come out of Britain in ages!  And I think he mentions our Nanci in 
a place or two, doesn't he?

Just thought I'd let y'all know my good news, too.  I've been living in 
England now for over four years, and this Friday I'm planning to be married 
to the best guy in the universe!  I even turned him on to Nanci's music, and 
at our wedding reception party in Brighton Friday evening, we'll be playing 
lots of Nanci Griffith, some Asleep at the Wheel, Beatles, and other folks 
whose music means a lot to us.  But I've got so much to do before then that I 
don't even want to think about it!  I can't believe I'm even taking time to 
send this message . . . !

Debra Munn (who's not changing her name!)
Originally from Amarillo, Texas, but now living in Brighton, Sussex
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Subject: NN: Harry Belafonte
   From: James_Troiano@umit.maine.edu (James Troiano)

Hi folks: I recall reading in a previous post someone mentioned that
Harry Belafonte might be left out of the discussed folk anthology. It
is true that his calypso songs are more commercial than authentic, but
he has many a multitude of folk albums, which include spirituals,
classics. Belafonte is an outstanding performer whose power and
charisma hooked a lot of fans and performers and introduced them to
folk music. I do not believe we should disregard this legendary
performer's contribution to my favorite music. That is just my opinion.
Thank you kindly, Jim Troiano.
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Subject: NN: Dust Bowl Symphony
   From: "Belardi, Douglas" (BelardD@ci.fort-worth.tx.us>

When do we get a track list for Nanci's new album?
Thank you,
Douglas R. Belardi
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Subject: Re: NN: Dust Bowl Symphony
   From: MISTERCD@webtv.net (SID PORTER)

Here is the track list for "Dust Bowl Symphony"
1. Trouble In The Fields
2. The Wing And The Wheel
3. These Days In An Open Book
4. Love At The Five And Dime
5. It's A Hard Life
6. Late Night Grand Hotel
7. Tell Me How (Buddy Holly song)
8. Not My Way Home
9. 1937 Pre-War Kimball (?)
10. Waiting For Love
11. Nobody's Angel
12. Always Will
13. Drops From The Faucet (?)
14. Dust Bowl Reprise (?)

Regards,
Sid Porter
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Subject: NN: More 45 RPM
   From: Walter Belding (Belding@dlph.com>

I guess this should end the confusion of whether Nanci was born in 1953 or
1954.  I always hoped it was 1954, because I was a July 54 baby, and feel a
small bond to Nanci because of it.  Anyway, I clearly remember the 78 RPMs
around the house, and always wondered if it is coincidence or not that 33 +
45 = 78.  Any techies out there know?
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Subject: Re: NN: More 45 RPM
   From: Bill Lavery (bill@villagerecords.com>

I don't think there is any connection.  The formats were developed
independently of one another and in fact there was a rather fierce
competition.  

It was the early fifties.  The technology existed to improve on the 78
which was limited to basically one song per side.  To put out albums,
that is a collection of several songs ,usually ten or twelve, or a
longer classical piece they had to put them in the book type bound
collections, thus the name album.

Anyway, RCA decided that they would replace this with a similar system
involving the same type booklet arrangement but with smaller and lighter
45 rpms.

Columbia went with the long player, the twelve inch 33 1/3 rpm.  This
would accomodate the 'album' on two sides of one disc.

Of course, the LP won out for the album biz but the 45 found a new niche
with the 'single' market.

We still carry hundreds of 45s at my store.  It always kills me when
kids come in and ask what they are or what the 45 adaptors are.

Bill Lavery
http://villagerecords.com/
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Subject: Re: NN: More 45 RPM
   From: Ed Maier (eddie@flash.net>

I distinctly remember a forth format: 16-2/3, circa 1952. The only
ones I ever saw were classical selections pressed on a transparent
yellow plastic disk, maybe 9" in diameter. My dad's boss had them
in the back window of his new DeSoto, and the heat warped them very
badly. I also remember the '57 Chrysler products had an optional
45 rpm record player that mounted under the dashboard. The changer
was beautifully isolated from road bumps with a spring suspension.
That was the same year Chrysler introduced the push-button shifter
for their automatic transmission.

Dodging turtles,
Ed Maier
Arlington, TX
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Subject: Re: NN: More 45 RPM
   From: Nick Chinn (nchinn@deaddogparty.com>

>I distinctly remember a forth format: 16-2/3, circa 1952. The only
>ones I ever saw were classical selections pressed on a transparent
>yellow plastic disk, maybe 9" in diameter.

Plastic? My mom has a half closet full of 12-inch LP and ~9-inch records 
that are made of GLASS.

That is, I hope she still has those old records.

-- Nick
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Subject: NN: 45's and Kate Rusby
   From: "Robert Pugsley" (RMP6@leicester.ac.uk>

Not only were there 33(and a third)s, 45s and 78s but there were 16s
as well.  At least my first record player had four speeds, I've never
seen a 16 rpm record so I can't say for sure.  I used to play my 45s at 16
when I got bored with them...I wrecked the machine by piling 33s
on the record changer and they all came tumbling down, gauging a
big scratch in a clear vinyl album by Tangerine Dream and breaking the
player arm!

Kate Rusby (for all you folk fans) is on this years Mercury Prize shortlist,
they usually include one folk artist, Norma Waterson won it a couple of
years ago.  It's a fine album but is it really the best "folk" album this year?

best wishes to you all...

Robert (Pugsley)
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