NanciNet Digest 8-05-99
// Sure hope the poor guy who backed up Nanci on guitar in California
// and Oregon isn't on the list...
// Enjoy...[BP]
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Subject: NN: Re: A Whiter Shade of Pale
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 10:58:16 +0100 (BST)
From: "Robert Pugsley" (RMP6@leicester.ac.uk>
Just one thing...
(((As for 45s, surely one of them should be "A Whiter Shade of Pale.">>>
Apart from the obvious Nanci connections with this track can
I just say the best version ever of this is by King Curtis (you can hear
it at the beginning of the film Withnail and I) Live at the Filmore.
Absolutely stoned-out brilliance of a record...I can think of no better
way to spend an hour than with my significant other, a bottle of
Chile's finest Cab.Sauv. (you can pick your own 'illicit' substance)
and this on the cd player...
Robert "We want the finest wines available to humanity,
we want them here, and we want them now..." Pugsley
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Subject: NN: Lee Satterfield at the Bluebird Cafe
Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 12:38:39 -0400
From: "susan ziegler" (boo@zeus.chapel1.com>
Hi Nanci Netters,
I just got the August schedule for the Bluebird Cafe in Nashville. Lee
Satterfield is playing "In The Round" tomorrow (August 4) at 6:30 pm.
Joining her will be Lance Cowan, John Mock, & Eric Fiedor.
I wish I could go... I'd love to hear a review from anyone who does go.
Cheers,
Susan
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Subject: NN: Beatles music
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:47:36 -0700
From: "Grissom, Mark" (mgrissom@bechtel.com>
Tired of Beatles music?!? Huh?!?!?! Must have missed that thread.
SpinyMark in Berkeley (who is currently hooked on "Chet Baker And
Strings"... Some things, like Beatles music, never grow old.)
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Subject: NN: Two albums worth checking out
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 12:56:19 EDT
From: Petop@aol.com
Three CDs that have been getting a lot of play in my CD changer of late and
ones I think all fans of Nanci would find worthwhile checking out are:
Ten Year Night by Lucy Kaplanski
Cry Cry Cry (a union of Dar Williams, Lucy Kaplansky and Richard Shindell)
Borders by Cliff Eberhardt
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Subject: NN: Re: Lee Satterfield
Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 13:55:14 -0400
From: "susan ziegler" (boo@zeus.chapel1.com>
Hello,
Oops! I think I wrote the wrong date for Lee at the Bluebird Cafe. I should
have written August 5th, Thursday at 6:30pm.
Cheers,
Susan
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Subject: NN: "Terrible Guitarists"
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 20:02:33 -0400
From: "Steve Goldberger" (steve@aldgategroup.com>
"I never meant to say he WAS looking at sheet music, only that it appeared
that way. He was constantly looking down as though there was sheet music
on the floor. I don't know how he would have read it if it was indeed there."
Perhaps he was too embarrassed with his own playing to look up!
It's happened to all of us musicians - on a gig and you just can't do
anything right. After a while you just hang your head and do your best
to make it throught the show (which seems will never end). Don't be so
hard on the new guy folks. He must be a pretty good player to begin
with if Nanci and band would have him.
As far as the band having some sheet music or lyric sheets, what's wrong
with that? Those classical guys do it all the time! Hee hee. As we
all get older and the hard drive fills up with so much useless info, it
is easy to forget a verse or the first line to a song. I would much
rather have the words and/or a music chart in front of me on stage than
forget the words or flub a new or unfamiliar tune. Especially in a
situation where one is just filling in or sitting in.
Steve (just gettin' by on gettin' by) Goldberger, Toronto
visit my home page: http://www.aldgategroup.com/steve
email: steve@aldgategroup.com
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Subject: Re: NN: "Terrible Guitarists"
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 07:15:57 -0600
From: Paul Larsen (paul@davisnet.net>
>As far as the band having some sheet music or lyric sheets, what's wrong
>with that?
The times that I have seen Michael Stipe of REM fame perform in concert,
he always has a music stand with (I presume) lyrics on them. It always
amazes me that after all of the tours they have done and the times that
he has performed this music that he would still need this, but for
whatever reason, he does. What I found even more amazing is that the
last time I heard him, he still screwed up the lyrics to "The End of
the World As We Know It" despite the music in front of him. At least
the audience got it right.
Paul
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Subject: Re: NN: "Terrible Guitarists"
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 11:24:27 -0400
From: Shawn Kimbro (kimbro@planetc.com>
Hi, Folks --
This isn't a comment about Nanci's guitarist, just an observation about
performance styles. In my part of the country, at least with
traditional music, lyric or music sheets on stage are a cardinal sin. I
don't think it's a coincidence that most people around here frown on a
preacher using sermon notes too.
Warm Regards,
-Shawn
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Subject: Re: NN: "Terrible Guitarists"
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 14:18:11 -0400
From: "Havanamoon" (Missing_Lynx@email.msn.com>
I too have difficulty learning new lyrics, especially my own.......although
I find that making a simple demo cassette to play in the car can be a big
help in implanting new information.......
One night, a coffeehouse patron made a comment which reminded me of 'A
Whiter Shade Of Pale', a song I had never played or sung, although I had
dabbled at learning it on piano back in 1967......I mentally transposed it
to a lower key and decided to give it a try.......I remembered every
word...........
Guess we all need to free up some RAM from time to time......
Tim
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Subject: Re: NN: "Terrible Guitarists"
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 16:47:13 CDT
From: "Christina O'Neill" (oneillchristina@hotmail.com>
Remembering back to REM Unplugged on MTV--Michael Stipe admitted without
apparent shame that he could never remember the words to "End of the
World..." as he put the music in front of him. My brother was disgusted as
he knew all the words; I just assumed that MS had more going on in his mind
than the need to commit all the words to all of his songs--EOTWASWKI(AIFF)
may be a crowd favorite, but maybe it isn't Mike's (which could account for
the fact that he needs the lyrics even after all this time...) (If I
remember Unplugged correctly, at that time, "Fall on Me" was his fave to
that point...)
Christy "I'd rather have the lyrics in front of me than a frontal lobotomy"
in STL
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Subject: Re: NN: Guitarists, Lucinda (minimal NN content)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 22:37:52 EDT
From: Brimpls@aol.com
Steve,
I agree with you. If Nanci chose this guitarist, he probably has a lot going
for him, and everyone has a bad night sometimes, right?
The music/paper on the floor is fairly common in rock/popular music, isn't
it? I'm a classical pianist myself so I know all about using music! But just
last night, we saw Lucinda Williams and her great band open for Tom Petty and
his (the Heartbreakers--love 'em). I definitely saw that some of the players
had stuff taped to the floor that they occasionally looked at. I always
assumed it was a set list, with notes on what key they play the song in, but
not actual music written out. Am I right?
Lucinda had the ever-wonderful Kenny Vaughn on guitar as well as another
excellent guitarist, and on drums was Fran Breen (Nanci content!). Great to
see them. The crowd was pretty much a Tom Petty crowd, but Lucinda did well.
I am very much a Lucinda fan so I was equally as thrilled to be hearing her
live as to hear TP again. But TP and the Heartbreakers put on a good show,
too, although very out-of-tune. It was almost as if his guitar techs had
messed up on the tunings....very odd....or like TP couldn't hear the other
guys? In any case, it was painful at times.
Did Fran Breen tour with Nanci, or just record?
Sabrina in Mpls.
// Both Kenny Vaughan and Fran Breen (along with Walt Aldridge, Mike Hanna,
// and the real Don Johnson) can be heard backing Kate Campbell on her
// excellent new (fourth) CD, "Rosaryville." ... [BP]
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Subject: Re: NN: Guitarists, Lucinda (minimal NN content)
Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 20:05:51 -0700
From: Kati Rose (katirose@ez2.net>
>
>Did Fran Breen tour with Nanci, or just record?
>
He toured with her as well. I remember him during Nanci's Flyer tour.
Running back to the land of lurkdom,
KatiRose
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Subject: NN: Looking Back To See
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 01:44:17 -0400
From: Shawn Kimbro (kimbro@planetc.com>
It's been a while since I purchased an honest-to-goodness country music
album. Frankly, I belived they had just quit making them. That is,
until a couple of weeks ago when I picked up the new release by Bill &
Audrey called LOOKING BACK TO SEE. This is the real stuff--what
American country music was back when it was the music of our country.
There's only one small hitch, Bill & Audrey are from Australia.
Could a couple of wanna-be hillbillies from the land down under actually
come up with a tears-in-your-beer, truck-drivin', honky-tonkin', classic
country album? You know, the kind of music Ernest Tubb and Loretta Lynn
would be proud of, songs like Dolly & Porter used to make? You can bet
your last juke box quarter they have. Bill & Audrey's high energy
style, and tight country harmony transport the listener back to 1955--to
a time when pedal steel guitars and high lonesome fiddles ruled the
airwaves.
Bill Chambers has enjoyed a succesful career in the land down under with
the Dead Ringer Band, a group that has won several Aussie music awards.
Audrey Auld looks and sounds a little like Kitty Wells. She has a pure
hillbilly style and a starkly sweet voice that would give Conway Twitty
goosebumps. She soars through the Rick Grech tune "Kiss The Children,"
and adds fresh new light to "You Are My Sunshine."
I love everything about this album, even the cover which sets a retro
tone that is echoed by each of the fourteen duets inside. "We'll Sweep
Out The Ashes" is my favorite cut, but there are also some compelling
original tunes like "Road of Regret" and "Meet Me Up There." Bill &
Audrey co-produced and self-financed LOOKING BACK TO SEE. It's the best
independent album I've heard in a long long time. Right now, it's
available only as an import but I expect it to get major label
distribution in the U.S. soon. It's also offered by some of the internet
CD stores. If you like non-apologetic county duets perfomed in a classic
style with traditional instruments, look up Bill & Audrey's LOOKING BACK
TO SEE.
Looking Back To See - Bill & Audrey
Reckless Records (Cat. Reck001)
Warm Regards,
-Shawn
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Subject: NN: Re: NanciNet #99803
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 21:07:32 -0700
From: "Chris Copeland" (frzlfry@worldnet.att.net>
I have to agree with Ron...the fact that Chaz (?) kept looking down was
distracting to me. I thought his playing sounded OK, but every time I
glanced his way, he was looking down. He didn't seem comfortable and
physically, didn't fit in at all with the groove the rest of the band had
established.
Don't want to beat a dead horse here...that's all I have to say about that.
Back to the wonderful world of lurkdom...
Chris
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Subject: NN: first 45
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 15:15:08 BST
From: "Sir Russ" (colboy2000@hotmail.com>
First 45, now that got me thinking somewhat. I feel amongst friends, so,
musically challenged as I may have been in my tender years, I humbly admit
to "Pinky and Perky" singing "Food Glorious Food" (from Oliver). It was an
interesting journey from Pinky & Perky to Nanci, with many stops, hold ups
and downright irresponsible excursions on route.
Keep cool,
Russ
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Subject: NN: RE: "Terrible Guitarists"
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 11:24:49 -0700
From: "Susan Krauss" (susankrauss@earthlink.net>
Lyric sheets can be distracting - for the performer and the audience. I saw
Linda Rondadt a couple of years ago and she had a telepromter at her feet.
She'd sing a phrase and then look down for the next set of words. It was
disruptive and broke the flow of the song.
I love Linda and have tickets to see her with Emmylou Harris in September.
But I'm hoping she's found a better way to get to the lyrics this time.
As for the guitarist, I felt like he didn't have enough rehearsal time and
that was a big problem. Unfortunately, we're used to seeing Nina Gerber
with Nanci (and other artists) who plays brilliantly without ANY rehearsal
time. So maybe we have higher standards for guitarists who play with Nanci
after watching Nina do her magic even when she's never heard a song before.
susan
mailto:susankrauss@earthlink.net
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Subject: NN: What's that on the floor
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 15:10:30 EDT
From: Petop@aol.com
In a message dated 8/4/99 9:41:12 PM Central Daylight Time, Brimpls@aol.com
writes:
(( I definitely saw that some of the players
had stuff taped to the floor that they occasionally looked at. I always
assumed it was a set list, with notes on what key they play the song in, but
not actual music written out. Am I right? >>
Yes, that is what is taped to the floor. Although depending on the
artist, it could take more than just a casual glance. Bob Dylan's set list,
for example, contains some slots where he could have as many as three
different songs listed.In fact, it's called a "cue sheet" and not a set list.
So the people in the band have to listen to the opening chords Bob plays,
then glance at the floor to decide which of the songs in that slot he is
getting ready to play. If you would like to see an example of a typical Dylan
cue sheet, go to:
http://www.execpc.com/~billp61/082898cs.gif
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Subject: NN: Re: terrible guitarist
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 17:53:40 EDT
From: GORDON1717@aol.com
Hi everyone,
you don't know how lonely it can be playing guitar behind someone without
rehearsal and without music. I feel for the guy. However, if this problem
comes up again could someone tell Nanci that I would be more than happy to
fill in. I know all the tunes and I promise not to play pentatonically. In
fact I am going to sit here with my Telecaster strapped on at all times just
in case she calls. (Doesn't James make those decisions anyway?)
Anyone know why it doesn't rain anymore?
respectfully yours,
Gordon (desperately wanting to make use of his bright shiny new fender amp)
Roberts
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Subject: NN: 45s and such
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 16:59:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tanya Marie Sanchez (tanyamsanchez@yahoo.com>
Hello everyone,
The discussion about 45s is making me a little sad. I lost my entire
record collection about a month ago in a basement flood. I thought
that my albums would be o.k., but they were in water for over 8 hours
and the glue on the label dissolved onto the vinyl and they got all
warped. I'm 28, so I didn't have any neat old "birth of rock and roll"
45s. However, I did have lots of cool singles, albums, and 12" singles
from the late 70s and the 80s from before I switched to cds.
The 45 I'll miss the most is "Mesmerized" by a band called "The Cold,"
a fairly successful band in the early 80s in New Orleans. Ellen
DeGeneres' brother Vance was a member of the group. "Mesmerized" is
one of those great lost singles of the 80s.
I know that you can't take it with you, but many of my albums had great
sentimental value and rebuying them on cd won't make up for that.
sigh....
Tanya, not getting used to Salt Lake yet,
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Subject: NN: Another New Nanci CD?
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 06:24:39 -0500
From: "Steve Makarsky" (makarsky@vvm.com>
Morning, All: I was just checking out CDNow and noticed they are
offering advanced sales for a Nanci CD titled Revisited... It's due out
24 August... Does anyone have any information about this? From the
title, it sounds like another Best Of album...
Regards...
Steve
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