NanciNet Digest 9-29-99
// Comments from that Hooker fellow, and more duet suggestions.
// Enjoy...[BP]
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Subject: NN: Re: Duets?
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 09:26:24 -0500
From: James Hooker (bbbjbear@bellsouth.net>
> For me it couldn't be any better than Hooker and Nanci on Gulf Coast
> Highway. And the best rendition I ever heard the two of them do was
> in Tarrytown on the Blue Roses tour.
and...
> Well, let's see. How many duet partners am I allowed to say?
> James Hooker (of course)
>
OK Boscos, Listen Up!!!
These two people are Geniuses. They are obviously all knowing. You should
cower
in their presence In fact, I suggest that [BP] clear ALL posts through them
first
just in case he forgot his medication that day. It humbles me to be in the
company with these good people who possess such impeccable good taste.....(I
gotta
get a tuxedo now)
Talked with the Nanster a couple of days ago, and apparently, the Albert Hall
shows are indeed on for May. These dates are definite. So were her last three
farewell tours.
We are doing well. I am pleased to report that Nanci and I have finished our
sex
change therapy and we are recovering well. This has prompted us to change
Trouble
in the Fields to a duet.....expect some lyric changes though....already decided
upon is "You be the Hog, I'll be the Sow."
Back to Lurkdom
James "If Nanci reads this, I'm dead" Hooker..........now where did I put that
Lithium?
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Subject: NN: Re: Look out for...
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 19:29:54 -0500
From: James Hooker (bbbjbear@bellsouth.net>
Yo!
October the sixth..........................Jay Leno!
Hasta
James "No, I don't know yet which song" Hooker
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Subject: Re: NN: Leno
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 20:38:09 EDT
From: Halesbop@aol.com
> October the sixth..........................Jay Leno!
> James "No, I don't know yet which song" Hooker
Maybe not, but the smart money is on the "new" version of Trouble In The
Fields (tee hee>.
Steve
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Subject: Re: NN: Nanci and A Duet
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 07:08:07 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Georg Vallestad (gvallest@online.no>
Keith Richards (Yes).
Georg
// (No)
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Subject: NN: who to duet?
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 09:04:43 EDT
From: Scaryxxx@aol.com
for my ears and all the Nanci material I have heard over the years I would
have to say the Indigo Girls (ok its a trio,not a duet) make for the most
beautiful harmonies with Nanci,they also sing in unison on many of the flyer
cuts and come off sounding very natural. So I guess I'm ready for flyer
revisited. garyfrom pa.
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Subject: Re: NN: Duets
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 11:16:20 -0700
From: Dan.Gerson@mckhboc.com
Although it's not possible in this life, I'd like to see Nanci team
with Ricky Nelson, who never got enough credit for his influence over
musicians who followed him. And I'd stand on any coffee table at
Graceland in my cowboy boots and testify!
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Subject: Re: NN: Duets
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 13:53:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: Reid Mitchell (reidmitchell@yahoo.com>
Nanci duet?
It's obvious.
Shawn Kimbro.
By the by, apparently there are no Nancinetters in
the New Orleans area or they are not interested in
hearing Lee Satterfield in concert. I've had NO
positive responses except from folks out of area.
Reid
// Reid, I'd be there, if it was here instead...[BP]
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Subject: Re: NN: Duets
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 17:29:55 -0400
From: Shawn Kimbro (kimbro@planetc.com>
Reid Mitchell wrote:
>
> Nanci duet?
> It's obvious.
> Shawn Kimbro.
Well, I *was* going to suggest that. (g>
I'd love to hear Nanci sing with Ralph Stanley. Some other suggestions
are:
Kate Campbell
Jim Lauderdale
Carol Elizabeth Jones
Tara Nevins
Jimmy LaFave (Oklahoma Hills)
Hank Williams III
Johnny Cash
Jean Ritchie
June Carter Cash
Warm Regards,
-Shawn
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Subject: Re: NN: Desperadoes waiting for the train
Date: 29 Sep 99 01:52:14 EDT
From: "Bob K." (rkettig@usa.net>
> I'm surprised it ["Time Out of Mind"] didn't have a bigger
> impact than it did. This was Dylan returning to the strongest
> songwriting (and performing) since "Blood On The Tracks", IMHO.
And I will 2nd that humble opinion... and quickly retreat to lurkdom.
- Bob "my heart's in the highlands" Kettig
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Subject: NN: "Time Out Of Mind"
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 08:32:43 -0700
From: "Grissom, Mark" (mgrissom@bechtel.com>
I would say the Dylan's "Time Out Of Mind" had a pretty major impact. It won
the Grammy for Album Of The Year in 1997, for one thing. Received universal
critical praise from critics, fans and fellow musicians alike. It was bloody
brilliant. My girlfriend said one of the highlights of her life was hearing
him do "Not Dark Yet" as evening fell over the Concord Pavilion when he
opened last year's show with Paul Simon. Pure magic....
SpinyMark in Berkeley
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Subject: NN: Dust Bowl Symphony Reaction
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 19:19:25 -0400
From: Ian R (100451.1006@compuserve.com>
Hi
At last I managed to get to a decent record store in Oxford Street London
yesterday and get my hands on DBS, having lucked out three times last week.
I have been listening to it constantly since and I am most impressed.
It's great to hear so many old favourites given such wonderful treatment by
the LSO ........ no more than Nanci's work deserves ..... but it does bring
home how magnificent the songs are when one hears them with such a formal
backing. They will surely stand the test of time.
Even more delightful however was to hear Nanci's (recorded) voice sounding
as great as I have heard in some time. Without any disrespect to recent
recordings Nanci seemed on this one to have regained the strength and
clarity which attracted my attention back in the 80s when I first came
across her. I suspect part of the reason may simply be the inspiration of
the backing but whatever the cause the effect was magnificent.
I do hope this album will open even more doors to Nanci's music and allow a
new audience to join us in enjoying our favourite artiste.
Regards to all y'all!
Ian (och aye the noo) Robertson
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Subject: NN: Miscellaneous musical comments
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 00:49:38 -0700
From: Tom Gill (tgill@igc.org>
Wow! The last Nanci-net digest did a unique thing: it happened to hit
upon my personal "holy trinity" of favorite artists: Nanci Griffith, Al
Stewart, and Jimmy Buffett. Oh wait a minute, Jackson Browne too...
what is four-thirds of a trinity?
I do like Dust Bowl Symphony, and was really glad to finally get it.
(Hint: CD Now is NOT the best place to order a popular album in
advance! ) However, much to my surprise, I admit to being slightly
disappointed. I was actually expecting it to have much more of a
full-out, much more lush and highly, strongly orchestrated "classical
music" feel to it (makes me yearn for that alleged "baroque remix" on
Revistied), rather than a folk-rock feel with classical touches, which
is what it turned out to be. The biggest winner? IMHO, "Tell Me How,"
which is an instant classic. It's everything I hoped the whole album
would be and more, after hearing it in concert: beautiful, lush, and
sweet, and heavily orchestrated.
And therein I think lies my problem with DBS- I was "spoiled" for this
album by hearing Nanci, the Crickets, and the Lubbock Symphony Orchestra
perform most of this material over Labor Day Weekend, in a symphony
hall, where the symphony's role in the music I think was much more
dominant than on the record. They say that the first time you hear an
arrangement of a song, especially if it's live, your mind "imprints" it
as "that's the way it's supposed to be." If I hadn't heard this stuff
actually performed with a full symphony in concert, I think I'd like the
album more. Ladies and gentlemen, if you ever get the chance to hear
Nanci perform this material LIVE with a symphony, RUN off to get tickets
*at once* As good as the album is, the live version is that much
better.
Tom Gill
Lubbock, Texas
tgill@igc.org
P.S.: Jimmy Buffett actually has put out an average of one new album
every TWO years in the '90s, not one a year. His latest, "Beach House
on the Moon," is a surprising stunner- a return to the early
"countryish" sound where steel guitars counted at least as much as steel
drums- and the best he's done in maybe 15- 20 years. You never know
when someone's gonna hit a home run.
P.P.S.: "...Kimball" is a nice song, but not too evocative of Al
Stewart. Al's historical references and allusions are almost always of
the long-departed, rather than those artists who are very much still
with us in their full creative genius, i.e. James Hooker and Beth
Nielsen Chapman.
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Subject: NN: Buffett's 90's output (a clarification/some Nanci)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 19:23:20 EDT
From: Halesbop@aol.com
Tom Gill disputed my remark about Jimmy Buffett "churn(ing) out an album
a year". No big deal, but I don't want people to think I'm fabricating
things. Since 1994 he's released 6 new studio cds (granted, one was a
Christmas record). None of them are among his better work, IMO. The latest
one does have a few pretty good songs (most notably "Flesh and Bone"), but I
sure wouldn't call it a home run.
I'm a fan of Buffett, but--like many who've followed him over the
years--feel his songwriting is severely slipping. Thankfully I can't say that
about Nanci. She speaks about how it took her 2 years to finish writing "Not
My Way Home". Buffett brags about writing and recording his entire latest cd
in a matter of weeks. And it shows.
Steve
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Subject: NN: Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 10:01:52 -0700
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 07:16:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: "John Davis" (j.davis@virgin.net>
Just a few thoughts on DBS after reading through the last two digests. I
think that the bottom line is that I will always play this CD, although
maybe not with quite as much relish as others. In truth I believe that the
problem with DBS is that we are so used to most of these songs that it is
unlikely that they will have the power that we felt when we heard More Than
A Whisper, Late Night Grande Hotel or So Long Ago (now THAT should have been
on DBS) for the first two or three hundred plays - in a sense they have
become like that old pair of slippers, if you know what I mean!
After the first few plays I can say that this is an interesting rather than
great album. Personally I can't see the point of covering so many of the
more recent songs which, in any case, have generally had similar fuller
production qualities than the earlier work. For instance why re-do Late
Night Grande Hotel at all? Having said that I personally judge the CD worth
its salt simply because of the Wing and the Wheel. This song had never been
one of my favourites - in fact it may even have been skipped/fast forwarded
on occasion. I started to appreciate it after hearing it live for the first
time with Phil D playing guitar and the scat. This version is much more
akin to that live version rather than the OFSE one. The orchestration adds
a new dimension, the lyrics seem to mean more and when I heard the scat for
the first time the hairs on the back of my neck stood up, and there aren't
many songs which have that effect on me! Doesn't it show that you can't
please all the folks all the time!
And I actually like Drops From The Faucet - because it's yet another
departure from the norm which I believe really suits Nanci's voice. There's
even a Shania-type ooohh at one point! I do think that a UK version should
have been recorded - Drops From The Tap would have taken it to a new level!
On another subject I watched the UK coverage of the CMA awards last night.
I'm not a great fan of country (although I was impressed by Tim McGraw as we
ll as some of the frocks on display - I just loved the Dixie Chicks classy
stage threads!) but I wondered whether Nanci has ever attended or been
honoured? I know that she has had quite strong feelings on the Nashville
scene in the past. I'm thinking of back in the Lone Star/MCA 80's when she
was being marketed as country.
Now I'm waiting for the new album. The trouble is that I am torn between
wanting a stripped down folk album and a more mature, produced and
Flyer-like offering. The reason I say this is that, although I still love
the earlier recordings I find them harder to listen to - vocally harsh and,
dare I say, grating - than the newer stuff. Maybe I am just getting older.
I also with the comment about the use of the word symphony - I'm not a
classical kind of guy but surely a symphony has four distinct sections?
One last thing - has anyone else noticed a resemblence between Nanci and
Calista Flockhart (Aly MacBeal)?
Back to lurkdom (I just love typing that!)
John Davis
np - Wing and Wheel (DBS)
// Nanci and Flockhart? Never...[BP]
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Subject: NN: "From a Distance" miscredited yet again
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 13:39:11 -0500 (CDT)
From: Clive Dawson (clive.dawson@amd.com>
I just saw a news item come across my screen regarding a new album by
Jewel, "Joy - A Holiday Collection". The Nov. 2 release of this album
will be followed by her appearance on the PBS series, "Sessions at
West 54th".
What caught my attention about this was the following sentence
in Billboard's article:
Produced by [Arif] Mardin, "Joy" will include renditions of such holiday
standards as "Silent Night," "Hark! The Herald Angels Sing," "Winter
Wonderland," and "Ave Maria," as well as a gospel medley encompassing
the spiritual standard "Go Tell It On The Mountain," Jewel's "Life
Uncommon," and the Bette Midler tune "From A Distance."
Comment # 1: The usual, "Arrrrghhh!" (I hope Julie and Nanci have
gotten more tolerant of this than I have as they laugh
their way to the bank... :-)
Comment # 2: Gospel medley??!
If anybody would like the full text of the article, containing info
about other Jewel appearances, just ask.
Cheers,
Clive Dawson
Austin
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Subject: Re: NN: "From a Distance" miscredited yet again
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 16:08:01 CDT
From: "Christina O'Neill" (oneillchristina@hotmail.com>
Clive Dawson quoted and wrote:
as well as a gospel medley encompassing the spiritual standard "Go Tell It
On The Mountain," Jewel's "Life Uncommon," and the Bette Midler tune "From A
Distance."
Comment # 1: The usual, "Arrrrghhh!" (I hope Julie and Nanci have
gotten more tolerant of this than I have as they laugh
their way to the bank... :-)
I interpreted this very differently. (But then, I often do). I didn't get
the sense that Bette was credited with COMPOSING FAD, but for a lot of
people, she did PERFORM the most widely-known version. Perhaps "Bette Midler
sung tune" would have been a more accurate way of phrasing it... Basically,
I saw it as a reference point for clarification purposes. For whatever
reason (probably because at the time, I always changed radio stations when
Bette was on) I was first familiar with the Judy Collins version, followed
shortly by Kathy Mattea (interesting Nanci-duet maybe?)
Comment # 2: Gospel medley??!
The medley is done Gospel-style? (Could be worse, could be disco!)
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Subject: Re: NN: Songwriting Credits and Medleys (no Nanci content)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 16:45:31 EDT
From: Brimpls@aol.com
Dear Clive,
Aargh! I hate when the wrong people get the songwriting credits, too. "From a
Distance" in a gospel style?! I guess we'll have to wait and see. Stranger
things have happened! I think Jewel is pretty interesting, though, so I
wouldn't totally discount it just from what you've read so far.
The phrase "gospel medley" makes me feel compelled to share a quick story
with you all--it's off-topic so it may not even see the light of day
here--but I have to try! I drive carpool in the mornings. Last year I drove
my then-third grade son A.J. and his best buddy, Sam, in the mornings. I
always play tapes in the car and sing along. It's just part of riding in my
car. But last fall I was on a Tony Bennett kick and I would ONLY sing along
with Tony for several weeks straight. I had a homemade cassette tape that
consisted of "Tony Old and New," stuff from his early recording days and then
his more recent recordings of Sinatra hits.
Sam and A.J. got a great little history of Tin Pan Alley, let me tell you!
Anyway, one week Sam had just had enough of this. He started to bargain with
me. He got me to agree that I would only sing THREE Tony songs per ride.
After that, I would turn on the radio to their favorite top-40 channel.
Sounds fair.
This worked well for a few days. Then one morning, I was at the part of the
Tony tape that is a Cole Porter medley. It has ten Porter tunes in all, but
they are fairly short versions all connected quite seamlessly. I was happily
singing away until Sam interrupted me. "Mrs. Sinker, Mrs. Sinker," he said in
this irritated voice, "you promised us you'd only do three Tony Benedict
songs, but that's about the fifth one today!"
I told him, "No, Sam, this is a medley. It's all one song." He didn't know
the term, obviously, 'cause he said again, "But I know you've sung at least
four songs. First you did 'What Is This Thing Called Love' and then you did
'Night and Day' and 'Dream Dancing,' and now he's singing 'I've Got You Under
My Skin'! That's too many songs!"
It was so cute. I had to explain the term medley to him and I patiently
explained that a medley counts as just one long song. A.J. already knew this
rule because he's my kid, what can I say?!
Hope that wasn't too much of a "cute kid" story for you to stomach!
Sabrina in Mpls.
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Subject: Re: NN: Nanci and A Duet
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 12:05:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: MISTERCD@webtv.net (SID PORTER)
How about Mary Chapin Carpenter? Or how about a new "Trio", featuring
Nanci, Iris Dement, & Alison Krauss? Gives me chills, just thinkin'
'bout it!
Sid
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Subject: NN: Duets
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 22:47:14 -0400
From: "Aquarian Resourses" (Aquarian@1acc.com>
I'd love to hear Nanci do something with Neil Young. Something about
their vocals takes me to another place. Hearing Neil in the 60's
and Nanci in the 80's for the first they blew me away and continue
to do so. They are both great great songwriters and both have an
edge to them. it'd be awesome to hear them together.
Dust Bowl Symphony is still playing and sounding better and better.
Right now it would have to be my number one record this year, and
the only competition I see perhaps is the new CSNY record due in
October and also Buddy Millers upcoming record.
As for the Jay Leno show it' ll be worth staying up to catch Nanci-
maybe we should start a pool to see who can pick the song she'll
sing.
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