NanciNet Digest 9-30-99
// Duets, cows, and Ally McBeal?
// Enjoy...[BP]
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Subject: NN: Updated FAQ
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 23:07:44 -0500
From: Bill Page (bpage@itol.com>
Hey folks, Ferg has updated the FAQ, to include his take on DBS.
Check it out at:
http://www.jump.net/~ferg/nanfaq.html
BP
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Subject: NN: Goodness!
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 11:38:57 -0400
From: Rob Schrull (RSchrull@gbla.com>
Hey...nanciland....Greetings from Madison,Wisconsin. Home to World Dairy
Expo, where you get to walk around barns, stand behind cows relieving
themselves, and kick the crap with farmers from around the world. Funny how
the barns all smell the same. You also get to go out to dinner with them
each night and find out who is mating with whom (cows of course).
Mr. James "Nanci's going to kill me" Bosco wrote:
>(I gotta get a tuxedo now)
James.... you can have mine. They kicked me out of banking, (you
know..those guys who lend you your own money and charge you for doing
so....I just didn't fit in of course) so I don't need it anymore.
Leno called and told me that I don't need to have Alan fax me dates
anymore, that I should just call Hooker.
Sex change eh?
Rob "and just think, I always thought I was talking to a man all this time"
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Subject: NN: DBS and Duets
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 14:45:06 -0000
From: "Michele Mcclung" (Mitch.M@btinternet.com>
Just got the DBS CD a few days ago. All I can say is -
Nanci, what a woman!
Yes, I think I'd be a pretty good duet partner for her. Lee S. is also
very good. I think the combination of their voices blend well together.
They both have very interesting voices.
For anyone in Scotland who doesn't yet have DBS, Jenny etc. ( I am not sure
if you can buy it here yet) I would be happy to tape my CD for you. (mmm.
is this illegal?)
Wouldn't it be great if Nanci could come to Scotland. It looks like I will
have to go to London to see her.
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Subject: NN: NanciNet T-Shirts
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 00:23:44 -0400
From: Shawn Kimbro (kimbro@planetc.com>
Hi Friends,
If anyone has *not* received a NanciNet t-shirt they ordered, please
contact me at this address. I only know of one that has yet to find its
home.
I still have a few shirts left in all sizes, even medium. So orders are
being accepted. http://www.geocities.com/~trailzzone
If I don't sell them here in a month or so, I guess I'll model them with
the rest of my Chip-n-dales outfit for e-bay auction.
I've found that if you stretch the XXL shirts just right, there is room
for two if you scrunch up real close. So c'mon NanciNet, why not split
one with a friend? Tell you what--email me and tell me who you'd buy
half a shirt for, and I'll tell that person that half a shirt has been
reserved in their name, all they have to do is pay the other half to
find out who their friend is, and then you can work out the details of
who gets, or how you both get, in the shirt. The only ketch is that you
must then post a picture of the two of you in the shirt.
Any takers? :-)
Well, it worked when I made those tube-tops!
Your impaired pal,
-Shawn
PS: Should Nanci wish to take Reid's advice, my family bluseygrass band
is playing three shows this weekend in the East Tennessee area. Of
course, you're all invited, free!
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Subject: NN: Re: Duets
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 23:38:36 -0500
From: David Grant (dgrant@eden.com>
I think we're all being a little closed-minded about our duet choices.
Nanci could use several strategic duets to drastically increase her
audience (and attract a whole new crowd to the NanciNet). I propose:
For the "goth teen" market:
Marilyn Manson (oops, will my post get rejected for mentioning that name?)
The "urban" market:
Wyclef Jean
The '70s retro disco market:
Bjorn & Benny from ABBA
OR
The Bee Gees
The "adult contemporary" market:
Jim Brickman
The "pseudo-classical" market:
Andrea Bocelli
The "oh, I just loved that duet between Natalie Cole and her father" market:
Karen Carpenter
(Richard Carpenter could just replace the John Davidson vocals from some of
the unreleased songs from their TV specials with Nanci's voice)
Just think how many CDs Nanci would sell if she jumped on ANY of those
bandwagons...
David Grant
dgrant@eden.com
Grant-Guerrero Photography
http://www.grantguerrero.com/
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Subject: NN: Re: Duets
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 10:07:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: poetmuse@prodigy.net
---- On Sep 30 David Grant (dgrant@eden.com> wrote:
> I think we're all being a little closed-minded about our duet choices.
> Nanci could use several strategic duets to drastically increase her
> audience (and attract a whole new crowd to the NanciNet). I propose:
> The '70s retro disco market:
> Bjorn & Benny from ABBA
> OR
> The Bee Gees
> The "oh, I just loved that duet between Natalie Cole and her father" market:
> Karen Carpenter
> (Richard Carpenter could just replace the John Davidson vocals from some of
> the unreleased songs from their TV specials with Nanci's voice)
>
I'm sorry but I almost spit out my very heavily alcoholed Earl Grey tea (helps
fight the nasty cold stuff) when I read this... The image of Nanci in a
sequined gown.. or No..WAIT- jumpsuit-singing alongside the Abba couple caused
a laughing riot to break out in my brain! Better yet-how about nanci sing with
Erasure, an ABBA song!!! Perfect. I think she's well fitted to "Fernando"- has
that whole folk/anti hero/lover theme going on. Brilliant, David. :)
I'm also surprised Mr. Carpenter hasn't acted on your ideas already.
giggling into her tea-
Christina "Waterloo" Myers
Ps. Glad to see your name among the nanciheads again, David!
*****
There is no braver soul than the one who kisses
first...******
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Subject: NN: from a distance
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 08:38:09 +0100
From: Paul Reeve (paul@preeve.clara.co.uk>
Last night on his show on radio 2 in the UK Nick Barraclough played a
version of "From a distance" (not the one by Bette Midler....;) on which
Nanci was accompanied by Donna Summer and (sp?) Raul Marlow, with parts
of it sung in Spanish.
Hmm. different and interesting but I think I'll stick with the original.
Paul
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Subject: NN: RE: DBS -first impressions
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 09:24:56 +0100
From: "Pugsley, R.M." (rmp6@leicester.ac.uk>
Umberto Eco said (I think) that you can't really have a really
good opinion about a film until two years after seeinf it. I don't
know why he chose two years, seems rather arbitary to me, but
I think I know what he means, it took me at least that long to go
back to LNGH and discover it was one of my favourite albums
of all time ever.
So, bearing that in mind, my first impressions of DBS having only
purchased it yesterday (but slow of the mark this time). First,
lovely cover. I'd actually already seen the cover on CDNow but
it's even nicer in reality. Second, nice intro to Trouble..., ace
versions of LTGH (I absolutely cannot wait to hear this live),
and LATFAD (I actually like Darius Rucker on this, even though
I'm not a fan (incidentally there's a jolly take on his
other band at http://www.theonion.com/onion3104/mothership.html))
Also I liked 'DFTF', it is slightly different for Nanci and there's
nothing wrong with that (says a fan of the St Theresa remix).
I still haven't made up my mind whether Pre-war Kimball is incredibly
cringe-making or just plain soppy.
Oh, and if Hooker's still lurking, nice arrangements, I like the last
little piece especially.
Thanks for listening.
Robert (one two la-di-da) Pugsley
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Subject: NN: RE: DBS -first impressions
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 09:59:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: poetmuse@prodigy.net
> I still haven't made up my mind whether Pre-war Kimball is incredibly
> cringe-making or just plain soppy.
>
> Robert (one two la-di-da) Pugsley
As I usually agree with most things you listen to Mr. Pugsley (and thanks for
missing me by the way) I have to utter a resounding :::THUD::: with this one...
soppy? You mean that in a delightful, can't get it out of your head way-
right??
Cringe making? Only because your face is so sore from enjoying the song so much
right?
I think your two years are starting now, Robert.
LOL
Christina "gosh why was I gone for so long" Myers
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Subject: NN: RE: RE: DBS -first impressions (esp. Pre-War Kimball)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 16:15:09 +0100
From: "Pugsley, R.M." (rmp6@leicester.ac.uk>
Dear Christina and all,
Christina wrote how much she likes Pre-war Kimball.
I think this is where we English and you Americans are going to part
company.
As you know here in England we are a quiet, humble nation and under no
circumstances whatsoever do we show any kind of emotion in public for
people who are not dead...so singing about how good your piano player is,
NO MATTER HOW GOOD HE IS, is totally unacceptable behaviour.
Of course, you ex-Colonials lose control of your emotional faculties at
the slightest thing. I've even seen your golf players leap in the air and
charge about in a most unseemly fashion...I understand many of you 'choke up'
(as I am led to believe you say) when you here your national anthem, some
of you even cried during the Bridges of Madison County...
Of course we understand, you are a young nation, full of hope for the future,
pride at your achievements (QVC and Shania Twain being only two of many fine
imports we enjoy here) and goodwill toward all peoples, in time you will
understand that there is no room for sentiment in this harsh place we call
Earth and that songs about old pianos just don't cut it.
Best wishes to you all,
Robert Pugsley
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Subject: RE: NN: Leno
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 08:19:33 -0400
From: "Panchyshyn,Roman" (panchysr@oclc.org>
Now you know what would be really funny, to have Nanci sing a duet with Jay
Leno! Having lived in Canada for several years, every time I see Jay, he
bears a resemblance to that great Canadian PM, Brian Mulroney (at least the
jaw does). Any Canadians on this list agree?
Roman from Ohio
Clamo, clamatis, omnes clamamus pro glace lactis
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Subject: NN: Duet Ponderings...
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 09:00:01 EDT
From: KimballDG@aol.com
Did anyone mention Tom Waits?
Donna K. (a lurker)
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Subject: NN: Dueting
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 09:53:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: poetmuse@prodigy.net
Okay, I'll admit it- I'll agree with Deb "just moved to the phoenix dustbowl"
Meyer- I think Nanci should sing with me!!!! (although not right now, me'sa
sportin a horrible cough and wheeze)
And when she recovers from that lapse of judgement I'd love to hear her sing
with:
Lucy Kaplanasky (a real duet- not back up stuff)
Mary Chapin Carpenter
Billy Brag
Paul Simon
John Prine (again)
Adam Duritz (sp?) (again)
Eric Taylor (again)
Michael Stipe (or at least work w/Peter Buck again)
Sara Hickman
And as always-our one and only Mr. Hooker
And maybe...Courtney Love?
JUST KIDDING!!!!!
:)
Christina "I'm a trickster high on Nyquil" Myers
******
There is no braver soul than the one who kisses
first...******tv wisdom
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Subject: NN: Duets from Another Dimension
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 09:56:43 -0400
From: Steve Robertson (stever@mindspring.com>
All of you folks proposing duet partners for Nanci just might get your wish-
I turned on CMT lasy night and they were playing a brand new duet from Barbara
Streisand and Vince Gill. And Barbara was getting mighty initmate by the end of
the song. It looks like Vince might have a new girlfriend.
A few minutes later, they played a brand new duet from Clint Black and his
actress wife. And it sounded a lot better than all those Tim McGraw-Faith Hill
duets.
Going back a few days, the CMA Awards featured a duet between Merle
Haggard and Jewel. I don't think Merle likes Jewel as much as he likes
Iris DeMent.
All things considered, it seems like Nashville is in the mood to
experiment with some wierd duets- so there's no telling who Nanci might
end up with.
Hidin' Out in the Georgia Pines-
Wishin' It Would Rain,
Steve Robertson
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Subject: Re: NN: Duets
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 09:59:52 -0600 (MDT)
From: bateman@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
One suggestion which hasn't been mentioned: Tom Paxton and Nanci Griffith
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Subject: NN: UK vids
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 18:03:48 +0100
From: RussellC@dnb.com
John - My fiance was watching Aly MacBeal last night, (as I struggled with
my tax return which of course only gets done on the very last possible day!)
and happening to look up I also thought about Calista's resemblance to
Nanci. NB On looking up again, I was also rather struck by that wondeful
Ling lady - I think I'll become a MacBeal fan after all !!
As a self confessed technophobe, does anyone know if I can buy the US videos
of Nanci, and somehow play these on a standard UK machine. Much as I'd love
to buy the UK versions (even at rip-off Britain prices), I cannot find a
single one in any of the main shops just west of London. If anyone knows
where I could lay my desperate hands on one I'd be delighted.
Re the duets thread - might I suggest Mark Knopfler (playing and singing of
course)?
M40 time for me......(that's good news - I'm heading home)
Colin
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Subject: Re: NN: UK vids
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 19:42:25 +0200
From: Georg (gvallest@online.no>
>As a self confessed technophobe, does anyone know if I can buy the US videos
>of Nanci, and somehow play these on a standard UK machine. Much as I'd love
>to buy the UK versions (even at rip-off Britain prices), I cannot find a
>single one in any of the main shops just west of London. If anyone knows
>where I could lay my desperate hands on one I'd be delighted.
It depends on your TV, and on your VCR. Some european VCRs can play NTSC
tapes in full colour and with stereo sound, providing that your TV can
handle it. Check your manual. Most newer TVs can. My VCR can not play
NTSC videos, but two years ago I ordered OVOR from the US anyway, just to
have it.
I thought I was going to get the sound anyway, but without picture. To my
surprise, the picture was there, but only in black & white, and I had to turn
off the stereo sound due to some tracking noise and play only the mono
soundtrack, which was clean. I borrowed a VCR capable of playing NTSC this
earlier this year, and could finally watch it in colours and listen to the
crystal clear stereo sound.
Georg
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Subject: NN: duets, again
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 17:56:14 GMT
From: "barbara costas" (moogirl51@hotmail.com>
how about Nanci and John Hiatt?
Jay Farrar (Son Volt)?
Paul Simon?
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Subject: NN: DBS
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 18:17:45 -0400
From: "Kristina Plath" (flyer23@angelfire.com>
Hi guys,
That package from amazon was on the doorstep when I got home (to an empty
house, yay!) today. CD *and* video... oh, it was bliss. My hands are still
shaking. DBS is playing in the other room, because I can't figure out how to
get it to play on my computer... it's the second time around... and I love it.
I new I'd love it, the same I've always loved Nanci's CD's, since I learned the
magic of this woman's work. Sometimes it takes a few listens, this time it
didn't. Granted, there are some things I miss from the previous recordings
(most surprisingly, the angels in Waiting for Love) but I know that the point
of re-recording her songs is not to make them better, but to travel a new
road. And that road may not be better or worse, but there will always be a
lesson upon it, some new harmony or lyric, something new. She'll never, ever
become complacent, for that would kill her. And she knows this.
My favorite, far and away, is The Wing and the Wheel. I've always loved this
song... loved its sparse poetry... now it's been given its wings and wheels
and the stunning, schintillating background it deserves. The scat made me
cry. I can picture Nanci on her western flyer...looking out across her
dustbowl...
(if I spend the love you gave me, tell me, where will it goooooooooo?>
The overture to Trouble in the Fields also had me laying on the floor of my
bedroom with my eyes closed, letting those bow strokes seep through me...
These Days in an Open Book is good... I'd like it more if it was all as sparse
as the beginning. The poppish drum part is kind of puzzling, but those
lyrics... and though I cherish the Indigos' harmonies on Flyer, it does sound
neat to hear Nanci do them here... Love at the Five and Dime is cool. Once
again, another facet to an old classic. Darius *is* Eddie. Nanci *is* Rita.
I love it. It's a Hard Life... well, what can I say. Singing to that, with
Pat's amazing percussion in the back...
her most powerful song, definitely.
I miss the heavy drum beats in LNGH, though... I think that song isn't all that
different here from what it is on the original... but it certainly proves that
Nanci's voice is still of wine. Tell me How is pretty cool. Such a 60's
bubblegum song sounds pretty neat with the orchestra.
I LOOOOOOOOOOOVVVVVVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEE the cello overture to Not My Way Home. As
an aspiring cellist myself, I could only close my eyes and inhale listening to
John Catchings. I'm gonna pester Nanci to put out a song book for DBS. I need
to learn how to play that. And those harmony vocals at the end are sublime.
1937 Pre-War Kimball. Cool song. Very cool song. It's not as brilliant as
some of her other songs, sure, but I can appreciate it for being a really neat
tribute to all those folks... I'll sing Hooker's line loudly... The line "The
songs we wrote, ah, note for note" conjures up an image of James and Nanci
sitting there in her house writing Leaving the Harbor or something. And God
bless the child who's got a song, who's got a song.
(we'll have made it a hard life wherever they go.>
Once again, with Waiting for Love, I feel like not much has changed. I miss
the angels. Although I didn't exactly love them, I grew used to singing
"Waiting for...(love)" instead of taking Nanci's part there. And I miss
that. But for all the former Waiting for Love haters that it satisfies, it's
worth it. Nobody's Angel is one of the coolest songs Nanci's ever written, I
feel, and adding in a french horn and whatever else is in the mix makes it all
the more cool. She does sound like she's angry, and because I wasn't angry
while I was listening to it, I felt kind of baffled. But I'm sure I'll love it
on one of those Flyer kinda days, where all I do is come home and lay down on
my bed and drown out whatever it is that's bugging me with a good dose of
empathy.
(tell me how to keep your love>
Always Will is a song that's sacred to me... I'm glad it didn't lose any of its
sacredness here. Although I like the more mellow, brooding version on Flyer,
this version ain't too bad.
: ) Drops from the Faucet... well, I was expecting something a little more up
tempo (it being Frank Christian and all) but it's cool as a laid back jazz
thing, too. I see Nanci on a smoky little stage in a satin sequined dress with
too much makeup singing into the mic and getting lots of hoots and howls from
the audience. Makes me giggle.
(cello solo....ommmmmmmm>
Reprise is a fitting end to this masterpiece. I love classical, which probably
explains why my electrolytes or whatever they are just felt re-aligned when
they heard this. I feel like I'm on a train or a bus (not one of those
peculiar greyhounds, though) headed through the Texas Nanci's painted for me
through her songs and her stories... we stop at Woolworth's on 6th and
Congress, and I can taste that vanilla coke. Then off we roll down the Gulf
Coast Highway...
(nineteen thirty seven pre-war Kimball. One two three gone...>
Nanci, you're a genius, and I am consistenly amazed at your conviction and your
power... to work with orchestras and stadium status rock acts and folk legends
without losing anything along the way... you've never become complacent, and
you've taught me to do the same. Thank you.
(and I smiled as it rolled out my door>
Thanks for listening.
Kristina
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Subject: NN: Duet
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 17:23:38 -0500
From: "cubfan" (cubfan@ndak.net>
My vote goes for Kelly Sanderson!
As always,
Tom
// I'll second that -- Kelly is definitely good enough to be a pro! [BP]
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Subject: NN: Re: Ally McBeal
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 18:37:26 EDT
From: GORDON1717@aol.com
(( One last thing - has anyone else noticed a resemblence between Nanci and
Calista Flockhart (Aly MacBeal)? >>
Yes! Yes!
I said as much a couple of weeks ago to my wife and she glanced up from her
book, squinted her eyes at the TV and after some consideration said that she
thought they both had that "little sparrow caught in the headlights" look. A
curious way to describe two very aware women I thought but then I often see
that look in her eyes too. It's very attractive, in fact it's probably the
thing that ensnared me in the first place. I guess I love a strong woman who
hasn't lost that hint of vulnerability and all three of these fall into that
category.
Am I rambling again?
Gordon (lost in mid missouri, amid misery.....) Roberts
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Subject: NN: Re: "FAD" miscredited yet again
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 18:36:26 -0500
From: "Hank Van Slyke" (chevelle@pnx.com>
Hey there, Nancinetters!
Clive was telling us yesterday about Billboard magazine's review of Jewel's
upcoming holiday album, and about how "From A Distance" was described as a
Bette Midler song. That got my hackle up. (I only have one hackle, so I
don't get upset very much) I found the Billboard site and found a contact
list. The executive in Nashville seemed like the best one to tell about
this mistake, so I told the executive about FAD being a Julie Gold song that
was recorded by Nanci Griffith several years before Bette heard of it. And
I said that calling FAD a Bette Midler song was like calling "You're My
Home" a Helen Reddy song. Billy Joel wrote and recorded that song, Reddy
covered it a few years later. I heard Billy introduce that song once in
Houston by saying "here's a song that Helen Reddy cut.....................to
shreds" The audience cheered, knowing how awful that version was compared
to the original.
I am eagerly waiting the reply from Billboard. ;-)
Have a happy Friday!
Hank "going downtown, gonna see my girl..." Van Slyke
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Subject: NN: Wing and the Wheel-----Piano Solo
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 23:38:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: jimmywolf@switchboardmail.com
Every time I hear the DBS version of Wing and the Wheel I stop whatever I
happen to be doing.(well, almost everything) Then I am treated to one of the
most beautiful piano solos that I've ever heard. Hooker, you've outdone
yourself. Your timing and selection of the notes and chords (played over the
orchestral arrangement) is truly remarkable. The entire song is a work of art.
From beginning to end. Hooker, if you're listening,
I just wanted you to know.
jw
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Subject: Duet and song suggestion
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 23:06:17 -0600
From: "Mark D. Gardner" (markdgardner@mindspring.com>
Paul McCartney. Has anyone out there ever heard any woman other than Linda
sing harmony with him?
Even if that doesn't happen, I'd love to hear Nanci do "We Can Work It Out."
It would be perfect as the first encore, but she would have to do something
which might be difficult for her - not introduce it. It should burst into
existence just as the Beatles' version did. This all came to me the day
after I saw the BRTFM tour two years ago, when I heard the song (original
version) in a supermarket. (Or, it could follow "Battlefield" - same theme,
different )
As I typed this, a commercial for Philips TV came on, with a few seconds of
Paul's "Getting Better"!
Mark Gardner
Louisville, CO
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"Music is a higher revelation than philosophy." - Ludwig von Beethoven
"I believe that music is the voice of God." - Brian Wilson
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Subject: Re:who to duet?
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 09:26:58 -0400
From: "Donate von Bredow-Gardner" (dvbgardner@genelogic.com>
I agree wholeheartedly with gary from pa....... the Indigo Girls are
unsurpassed with their creative harmonies. Besides, they stand for many of the
humanitarian and spiritual causes that Nanci supports with her music. I'd
love to see more collaborations between the three of them. Another suggestion
would be Beth Nielsen Chapman -- I think their voices would blend fabulously,
IMHO (I sure hope, this acronym means "in my humble opinion" - I keep seeing it
here on the net and, being a foreigner, I often interpret things quite the
wrong way :).
This is the first time since I joined the net that I see an actual post from
James Hooker. What a nice homecoming surprise!!!!!
Donate "back from Europe and back to reality" von Bredow-Gardner
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