NanciNet Digest 11-18-00
// The digest tonight is heavy with Emmylou and Kasey Chambers...
// Enjoy...[BP]
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// Hey folks, I hear from folks in Nashville that Nanci is back
// in the studio, recording a new CD of original music.
// According to my source, this is "the best work she's done
// since Flyer." Release is targeted for next spring! [BP]
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Subject: NN: Emmylou concert - No Nanci content
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 21:31:06 +0100
From: Georg (gvallest@c2i.net>
Emmylou and Spyboy had a concert in Oslo last night,
at a place called Rockefeller (full house, about 1200
peaople I think). This was the best concert I've been
to with the 'new' Emmylou (or maybe including the 'old').
She has at least been in Norway 6 times the last 9 years.
The songs from her new albums and here voice sounded better live.
She still have that voice, no doubt about it. At a place like
this, with a bar, and no seats on the floor the rather huge rock'n'roll
and low country factor fitted perfect. (I wonder if she adjusts
the setlist to the venue?) Emmylou and the band seemed comfortable
and enjoyed being on stage, and played extremly well (and rather
loud, too). And her voice was strong and brilliant.
Those of you going to RAH later this week (Mike) have something
to look forward to (you might get disappointed though, if she does the
same set and you expect much of the 'old' stuff).
They played for 1 our and 55 minutes - no break (+ 30 min with
Buddy Miller band first, Emmylou joined on 2 numbers). 3 + 1
extras included, but part of the program, because guitars
was changed by the stage crew immediately.
I don't write setlists, but if I remember correct, she
definitively played the ones listed (not in order) The
setlist was carefully set up. 3 fast numbers first, then
slowing down, slowly rocking it up again, and so on.
Ending with a rocking version of John The Baptist.
It Ain't Living Long Like This (was #3)
Pancho & Lefty (was #4)
Love Hurts
Hickory Wind
Deeper Well (VERY, VERY good)
Orphan Girl
Where Will I Be
All My Tears
Calling My Children
The Pearl
Michelangelo
I Don't Wanna Talk About It Now
Red Dirt Girl
Bang The Drums Slowly
One Big Love
Boy From Tupelo
Wheels
The Maker
Born To Run
Goodbye
John The Baptist - no bluegrass here
It was more songs than this, but I can't recall more.
For those interested: she wore a sleeveless
black top with spangles, a grey skirt, small-netted
stockings and black boots, 2 bracelets and matching
painted fingernails (I was 4 meters away). She was VERY
handsome and elegant.
Georg
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Subject: NN: Re: Emmylou concert - No Nanci content
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 22:59:01 +0100
From: "Marius Molstad" (marius.molstad@c2i.net>
Georg,
I was there too having the time of my life. This was the first time I've see
Emmy live and it
was a great experience. I was a little longer in back than you so I didn't see
what kind of
jewelry she wore;-)
Did you see/know if Buddy played octave mandolin or bouzouki during a couple of
songs (at
least "Pancho and Lefty" and one of the Gram Parsons tunes)?
I didn't write down the set list either, but didn't you catch all the songs on
your list - I
can't recall any other songs.
By the way, "John the Baptist" isn't it really called "Get up John"?
This was the best concert I've ever been too, I love this great lady!
Marius
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Subject: NN: Re: Emmylou concert - No Nanci content
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 08:39:02 +0100
From: "Marius Molstad" (marius.molstad@c2i.net>
Georg,
I was there too having the time of my life. This was the first time I've see
Emmy live and it
was a great experience. I was a little longer in back than you so I didn't see
the details as
clear as you;-)
Did you see/know if the acoustic instrument Buddy played on a few songs was an
octave mandolin
or a bouzouki? (on at least one of the Gram Parsons songs)
I didn't write down the set list either, but didn't you catch all the songs on
your list - I
can't recall any other songs.
By the way, "John the Baptist" isn't it really called "Get up John"?
The highlight for me was when they played "Pancho and Lefty" (as you all know
I'm a huge TVZ
fan) with a great three-part harmony and the solo rendition of "Bang the drum
slowly". All in
all I don't think there were anything that wasn't great during the whole
concert.
This was the best concert I've ever been too, I love this great lady!
Marius
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Subject: Re: NN: Nanci Griffith: Storms (AA004/MCA-6319)
180g vinyl LP - rarity?
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 21:48:46 +0100
From: Georg (gvallest@c2i.net>
It's a German pressing. I don't know how 'rare' it is. I used
AltaVista and searched for it 3 years ago when I first read about it
and didn't find it (Search for Storms and Alto). A year later I tried
again and found several shops listing it (UK, Switzerland, UK). The
funny part is that even though this is a German release, the best price
including postage was from a shop in California (well, UK price was about
the same, but the Californian shop could also provide a 'normal' new LNGH
pressing). So my Alto Storms LP have travelled across the Atlantic twice.
Georg
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Subject: NN: Re: Emmylou concert - No Nanci content
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 20:41:31 +0100
From: Georg (gvallest@c2i.net>
You are of course right, the song is called Get Up John. I don't know which
instrument it was, but it was used during Hickory Wind?
AS a TVZ fan, you must have loved her comments about that TVZ said there was
only two kind of music: You have the blues - and then there is 'suppati dua'
(or something like that), and that TVZ never wrote in the last category.
BTW, have you heard the Swedish artist Lisa Ekdahl's 'Öppna upp ditt fõnster'.
Isn't this the same melody as 'You made this love a teardrop'? I checked
her CD,
and the song is listed as written Lisa Ekdahl...
Georg
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Subject: NN: Re: Emmylou concert - No Nanci content
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 21:18:03 +0100
From: "Marius Molstad" (marius.molstad@c2i.net>
Georg,
Yes, I really appreciated that she talked (and quoted) about Townes and I was a
bit surprised at the response from the audience when she said she was gonna
play a song by Townes. I was afraid that only a handful of people knew about
him, but thankfully I was wrong.
The instrument I was talking about was the acoustic instrument looking like an
oversized mandolin with a soundhole, I believe it's an octave mandolin
otherwise it would probably have sounded a bit different. By the way, I'm not
talking about the small twelve string mando guitar he used on "Pancho and
Lefty".
I know some of Lisa Ekdahl's music, but I can't recall that song you mention. I
don't own any of her albums, but I believe the singer in my band has a few. If
I remember I'll borrow those albums from her and give it a listen. Ekdahl
usually puts new words to old songs (often jazz standards), at least earlier
she used to do that.
Marius
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Subject: NN: Re: Re: Emmylou concert - No Nanci content
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 21:48:17 +0100
From: "Hans Janssen" (hjanssen@zeelandnet.nl>
> The instrument I was talking about was the acoustic instrument looking
>like an oversized mandolin with a soundhole,
Hi Marius,
You put here just the definition of a bezouki.
met vriendelijke groeten,
Hans Janssen.
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Subject: NN: Re: Emmylou concert - No Nanci content
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 23:58:35 +0100
From: "Marius Molstad" (marius.molstad@c2i.net>
Hans,
Yes, I did, but also the definition of an octave mandolin. The difference is
that a bouzouki has the two lowest string pairs tuned in octaves (gG dD AA EE),
while and octave mandolin has all the string pairs tuned in unisons (GG DD AA
EE). Otherwise the two instruments share the same scale length and range. I
know that an octave mandolin can vary a bit in scale length, sometimes just
slightly longer than a mandola, but modern octaves and bouzoukis are very
similar.
Marius
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Subject: Re: NN: Re: Emmylou concert - No Nanci content
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:00:14 -0500
From: Steve Robertson (stever@mindspring.com>
on 11/17/00 2:41 PM, Georg at gvallest@c2i.net wrote:
> AS a TVZ fan, you must have loved her comments about that TVZ said there was
> only two kind of music: You have the blues - and then there is 'suppati dua'
> (or something like that), and that TVZ never wrote in the last category.
The second half of that TVZ quote is "Zippity Do Dah" which (I think)is the
name of a song from the Walt Disney movie based on the "Uncle Remus"
stories:
Zippity do dah
Zippity- ay
My oh my
What a wonderful day
Plenty of sunshine
Comin' my way
Zippity do dah
Zippity-ay
Havin' a Wonderful Day,
Steve Robertson
host of the starchart.com
Acoustic Performance Series
http://www.starchart.com/
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Subject: Re: NN: "Freedom for the Stallion" --was yellow dog speaks
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:27:29 -0800 (PST)
From: Reid Mitchell (reidmitchell@yahoo.com>
--- "Bob K." (rkettig@usa.net> wrote:
> I think I also have a recording of "Freedom for the
> Stallion" performed
> by Three Dog Night.
>
> - Bob
By the way, I was wrong about "freedom for the
stallion" being on FROM A WHISPER TO A SCREAM.
(Somehow I don't imagine thousands of Nancinetters
rushed out and wasted their money since my intitial
post.) As far as I can tell, Toussaint's performance
appeared only on a live album done of the Jazz and
Heritage festival.
Reid
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Subject: NN: Folkscene benefit, The Troubadour, Nov. 28
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 00:14:35 +0100
From: "Herve" (aequalis@wanadoo.fr>
Dear folks,
Found this information at www.Folkscene.com
I've heard interviews of Dave Alvin and David Olney by Howard Larman and
they are among the most interesting I heard for OKOM artists we appreciate.
A benefit concert will take place at The Troubadour, Santa Monica with
Jackson Browne, Peter Case, Jim Lauderdale, Katy Moffatt, Van Dyke Parks,
plus other special guests !!
Herve, Paris Pal
--------------------------
"Here is the official message from Howard & Roz Larman:
Folkscene is off the air until further notice.
Due to unresolved issues with the management of KPFK, Folkscene was canceled
on Friday October 13th. If you want to see Folkscene back on the air, please
express your concerns to KPFK general manager Mark Schubb at (818) 985-2711.
If you have any more questions, you can email Folkscene from this web site.
For further updates, please watch this web site.
In the meantime, to know more about what is happening with FolkScene you can
go to acousticmusic.net. This will update our situation. There is also a
petition on this site, which you can print out and circulate.
UPDATE...FROM THE LARMANS
Dear Folks:
The only news we have about FolkScene, is that our attorney is working with
the attorney at Pacifica. When we have more we will share it with you. We
hope we see you all at the benefit concert at the Troubadour on November
28th. It will be a chance to get to meet you all.
Thank you for all your support over the years.
Love,
ROZ & HOWARD
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Subject: NN: Nanci gear?
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:12:37 -0600
From: "Kevin Hudson" (hud@ra.msstate.edu>
Are there any NG t-shirts, sweatshirts, etc. out there? I haven't come =
across a source yet.
Kevin
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Subject: NN: Kasey Chambers
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 00:03:42 -0400
From: "Douglas Dick" (cddick@viaccess.net>
I have not heard Kasey Chambers yet but have read good things about her
on this list. I see that she is scheduled to be on Letterman on Monday
night.
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Subject: Re: NN: Kasey Chambers
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 12:35:44 -0500 (EST)
From: B0DIE62460@aol.com
Hi Douglas,
I think you'll like Kasey Chambers........ I'll be looking forward to seeing
Dave!
See ya
Beth
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Subject: NN: A little Kasey, a little Nanci.
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 16:43:22 +1100
From: "Barry Medway" (barrymedway@interact.net.au>
Congratulations to those Netters who have picked up on the
exceptional talent of our singer/songwriter Kasey Chambers.
Reports coming back to Oz indicate a deal of interest in
Kasey's US tour. The girl is GOOD, the CD is "THE CAPTAIN", do yerself
a favour and give it an ear.
Can someone advise me which of Nanci's early recordings
were released on CD, and were any only released on vinyl?
Thank you from Down Under, where my newly aquired "Flyer" is doing
wonders in alleviating post Olympic blues.
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Subject: Re: NN: A little Kasey, a little Nanci.
Date: 18 Nov 2000 11:09:30 +0000
From: "Matt Bloomfield" (mail@mattbloomfield.co.uk>
*Barry Medway* wrote:
> Can someone advise me which of Nanci's early recordings
> were released on CD, and were any only released on vinyl?
All the early albums were/are available on CD
There's A Light Beyond These Woods, Philo CD 1097
Poet In My Window, Philo CD 1098
Once In A Very Blue Moon, Philo CD 1096
Liner notes aren't very good, just a track listing and a little bit of
recording details on some, no lyrics or anything like that.
All the CDs I have are listed with catalogue numbers on my site, or
for there is a full discography here:
http://www.eden.com/~dgrant/nanci.html
Matt
--
http://www.mattbloomfield.co.uk
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Subject: NN: Hosea Williams -- Civil Rights Pioneer
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 06:44:39 EST
From: Catelaw@aol.com
Hello friends,
The following is taken from personal observations and information in the
Atlanta Journal/Constitution. Please pardon the length and excuse the cross
posts, but I just couldn't bear this getting lost in that Bill Murray
Groundhog Day Election movie going on south of here. :P
Hosea Williams lost his battle with cancer on Thursday, November 14, 2000. A
civil rights pioneer, Williams stood with Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. on the
balcony of the Lorraine Motel in Memphis when the great man was assassinated.
He was an organizer and leader of the Southern Christian Leadership
Conference and a trusted confidant and advisor to Dr. King prior to his
death. Along with others, Williams fronted the infamous March on Selma in
1965 across the Edmund Pettis Bridge, offering his body and shedding his
blood to help guarantee the voting franchise for all persons without respect
to race. He was an integral part and driving force in carrying the torch of
Dr. King's dream in the turbulent years that followed.
Before all of this was a harrowing childhood, followed by heroic service in
WWII under General George Patton, a permanent disability and a Purple Heart.
Didn't help him much when he got back home from Germany and wanted to drink
out of the "white only" water fountain at the bus station -- got the dog beat
out of him for his trouble.
Williams completed a Bachelor's degree in Chemistry from Morris Brown
University and a Master's from Atlanta University.
Hosea, affectionately known as "Hosey" around these parts, also spent some
time in jail, no doubt making his righteous anger known in a dignified or
not-so-dignified way to his keepers. The local rag quotes him as having said
he was arrested and jailed at least 135 times for his civil rights activism.
The paper also notes what is also widely known here that Hosey wasn't the
best driver and liked his wee nip -- had a number of moving violations, but
testified that, "I've never done anything that would hurt the struggle of
black folks to be free." Fortunately, his driving pecadilloes never resulted
in any injuries either, to the best of my knowledge. I think his family
finally got somebody to cart him around, which was a good thing.
He fooled around with some elected offices for a while, too, but the locals
will most remember Hosea Williams in his later years for his constant,
unwavering and LOUD advocacy and efforts to feed and raise the dignity of the
homeless. His annual Thanksgiving dinner fed and provided showering
facilities to upwards of 30,000 people, ballooning to require "The Ted," home
of the Braves. Thanksgiving in Atlanta just wasn't official until Hosey was
on the horn to every radio show in town, begging for money, food and help, in
that order. He wasn't proud and always managed to get what he was after.
Kind of a loaves and fishes thing, they kept ladling it out and there always
seemed to be just enough. Hosea served dinner personally until last year
when the sad news was announced that he was too ill. Georgia's Governor Roy
Barnes and his wife filled the void as best they could and will be on hand
this year as well, but Hosea Williams' death leaves a gaping hole in Atlanta
and national civil rights advocacy community that can never be filled. Hosey
walked the walk.
His funeral will be held Tuesday morning at 11 at the Ebenezer Baptist Church
and his body will lie in state Monday from noon until 8pm at the MLK, Jr.
International Chapel at Morehead College in Atlanta. A mule-drawn wagon will
carry his coffin along the same route that Dr. King traveled, giving those
who would an opportunity to pay their final respects to this giant of a man.
He will be buried beside his wife and a son who died of cancer in 1998.
Hosea's closest friends, Atlanta's homeless, will be seated behind his family.
I'm sure Abraham, Martin, John, Bobby and an untold cast of the meek and
mighty are lined up to welcome one tired ol' warrior through the pearly gates.
Cate, head bowed, in Atlanta
"Can you spare the time?
Can you spare a dime?
Can you look me in the eye?
I'm down 'n' out and I am lonely
Do you ever think of me on Sunday?
No, I don't live across the water.
Hey, I live right here on this corner...
just a bank account away from America." -- Nanci Griffith
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Subject: NN: WUMB
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 09:51:39 -0800
From: "Susan Krauss" (susankrauss@earthlink.net>
WUMB is a folk radio station in Boston. I listen on the net. They asked
their listeners for the records they'd need if they were stranded in the
Australian outback and then played the Top 100 this week. Our Nanci was
well represented:
97 - Lone Star State of Mind
84 - Flyer
52 - One Fair Summer Evening
and #1 - Other Voices Other Rooms.
Cheryl Wheeler had 3 records in the top 10! You can see the list at:
http://www.wumb.org/00top100.html
Susan
mailto:susankrauss@earthlink.net
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Subject: NN: RE: WUMB
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 19:06:13 +0100
From: "Herve" (aequalis@wanadoo.fr>
How come Cheryl Wheeler has three albums in the top 10!
Is she really that good?
Herve, pAris pAl
// well, yes, she is! [BP]
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Subject: Re: NN: RE: WUMB
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 00 20:03:19 -0000
From: John Edward Graveling (kai21@dial.pipex.com>
Cheryl Wheeler is certainly that good and for me has made some wonderful
music in the past decade. My personal favourite is "Driving Home" a cd I
would recommend to anyone who likes fine lyrics, well sung with
interesting arrangements. "Sylvia Hotel", "Mrs Pinocci's Guitar" and
"Circles & Arrows" are also very fine, although her first two records
"Cheryl Wheeler" and "Half A Book" show a formative artist with some
interesting ideas, but they are for completists and those with great
curiosity.
Go get yourself some Cheryl.
John Graveling
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// and an opposing view:
Subject: NN: RE: WUMB
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 21:13:43 +0100
From: "Marius Molstad" (marius.molstad@c2i.net>
No,
Marius
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Subject: NN: Cheryl wheeler
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 21:37:54 +0100
From: "Herve" (aequalis@wanadoo.fr>
Thanks for the feedback of all kinds!
In fact I have two songs by Cheryl on a Rounder compilation that also
features Bill Morrissey, Ellis Paul, Dave Olney, the Nields, Lynn Myles and
more.
After hearing Lynn Myles' songs (You don't love me anymore and Sunset
Boulevard), I boughht her two CDs and was slightly disappointed. I think the
two chosen cuts are really the best from her CDs. Same for the Nields.
"Crazy people" is a great pop song but the rest of the album did not carry
me away.
But obviously this top list reflects the choices of North-East folk music
lovers (Shindell, Dar Williams, Kaplansky, Gorka...). Well remember it is a
list for Australian outbacks so you're not that far...
WOuld be interesting to have TOP 5 by list members although this must have
already been done many times here!
Herve
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Subject: NN: Re: Top 5 (was Cheryl wheeler)
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 22:42:31 +0100
From: "Marius Molstad" (marius.molstad@c2i.net>
Hervé,
C'est tres difficile or something, man it's long since I had French...
Tonight I'll say these five albums are essential for an Australian outback
journey...or a Norwegian winter. Maybe I'll reconsider tomorrow when the booze
runs out...
Townes Van Zandt - "Live at the Old Quarter, Houston, Texas"
Joni Harms - "Cowgirl dreams"
George Jones - "Cold hard truth"
Tom Pacheco - "Luck of angels"
Nanci Griffith - "Other voices, other rooms"
Marius
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