// Enjoy...[BP]

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Subject: NN: Re: NanciNet #00304
   Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 20:07:46 -0600
   From: Rachel Strain (rjs@mail.utexas.edu>

>And Ani DiFranco, Indigo Girls, yes yes yes.  Ani kicks some serious butt
>(pardon the French again).  Not just the young women, either, as Nanci has
>mentioned the IG's on several occaisons.  I wonder what she thinks of Ani?

Ani is awesome.  I'm always so amazed at the way the "folk" gene manifests
itself.  I was introduced to Ani's music last fall, and now I'm hooked.
Matter of fact, I listen to her music more than Nanci's now.  Okay, don't
shoot me... I breathe Nanci, I've been listening to her so long... I'm
still trying to learn Ani.

Dying for either to come back to Austin...

In Texas spirit,
Rachel :)

Hook 'em! ;)

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Subject: Re:NN: Beatles (but not really)
   Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 21:45:14 EST
   From: RoanInish@aol.com

((I meant no disrespect to Joni whatsoever, but would there ever have been a 
Lilith Fair if Joni hadn't blazed the trail?>>

I would find it most unlikely, although there is another woman to which the 
whole Lilith Fair scene owes a major debt - Sandy Denny.

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Subject: NN: Re: Eliza Carthy
   Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 21:48:46 EST
   From: RoanInish@aol.com

((Can anyone tell me about Eliza Carthy.  She's on a 28 show tour with Joan 
Baez and stopping in Lawrence, Kansas, next Tuesday.  Carthy's received quite 
a write-up in the Kansas City Star.  She's described as a blend of Fairport 
Convention and 10,000 Maniacs.  Any insight?>>

I have yet to hear Eliza, but given that she is the daughter of British folk 
great Martin Carthy (briefly of Steeleye Span, though an established solo act 
before his stint with that band) I'd say she probably inherited a thing or 
two from dear old dad which should make her worth checking out.

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Subject: Re: NN: Most Influential Bill Monroe
   Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 21:23:30 -0600 (CST)
   From: PhotoTwang@webtv.net (Richard Hill)

Lee McAbee wrote:
>I have read that the intensity of and the
>excitement surrounding Monroe's band of the
>late 40's (which included Lester Flatt, Earl
>Scruggs and Chubby Wise- all legends now in
>their own right), was similar to that surrounding
>Elvis a decade later. Of course, Mr Monroe
>never shook his pelvis on the stage of the
>Ryman Auditorium!!!
Well Lee, I know what you meant, BUT on the other hand...  Of course Mr.
Monroe shook his pelvis (and everything else) many times at the Ryman! A
very good example of this is on the video version of "Emmylou Harris &
The Nash Ramblers Live at The Ryman". Mr. Monroe is seen stepping quite
lively along with Emmy while The Ramblers play the Monroe instumental
"Scotland" behind them :-)

Richard

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Subject: NN: Starry, Starry Night
   Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 00:17:57 -0600
   From: Jackie (j.klinnert@att.net>

I was lucky enough to see the PBS special "Starry, Starry Night",
tonight. 

Nanci was obviously having a great time, just like she does when you see
her in concert. The songs listed in the promo are the only ones she
sings with Don. The PBS membership choices here included the video, a 2
CD set, or both. I wish I could have afforded the CD membership, as they
said that it includes more songs by Don, Nanci, and Garth. (separately,
I think?)

I have to admit that my favorite song was Garth Brooks singing "Empty
Chairs", with the 3 of them singing "American Pie" as a close second.
There are some interesting interviews with Don McLean, interspersed with
the songs.

Well worth watching again, especially since I cut the pledge
"commercials" out while taping it!

Jackie

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Subject: NN: Starry, Starry Night
   Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 21:28:37 -0800
   From: "Julie Anne" (julie101@san.rr.com>

The PBS broadcast of Starry Starry Night that was schedule to air saturday
night in San Diego is now listed as rescheduled to Tuesday, March 14th at 8:00
p.m.  Here's the lowdown:

"Don McLean: Starry, Starry Night is a celebration of a 
composer/performer who has stood the test of time, and whose music is 
the sound of a generation. Recorded in concert in November 1999 at 
Austin's Paramount Theatre, McLean is joined by fellow singer-songwriter 
Nanci Griffith and country/pop megastar Garth Brooks. In brief interview 
segments, McLean offers new insights about his musical inspirations, his 
parents' influence and the meaning behind " American Pie," voted in one 
poll as "one of the Top 20 most important songs in rock 'n' roll." The 
program concludes with his rousing performance of this great anthem 
about "the day the music died," joined in reprise by both Griffith and 
Brooks and the entire audience, singing every verse, every word, in 
unison. Song Rundown: Act One "Castles in the Air" - McLean "Cryin'" - 
McLean "Singin' the Blues" - McLean "Vincent" - McLean Act Two "And I 
Love You So" - McLean, Griffith "Raining in My Heart" - McLean, Griffith 
"Fashion Victim" - McLean "It Was a Very Good Year" - McLean Act Three 
"American Pie" - McLean "Empty Chairs" - Brooks and McLean "American Pie 
Reprise" - McLean, Griffith, Brooks"

All the best,

Julie.

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Subject: NN: "Starry, Starry Night" with our a(NG)el
   Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 00:07:29 -0500 (EST)
   From: "David Steere, Jr." (dsteere@dellnet.com>

I hope all of you saw (or will see) the Don McLean special this week on 
PBS, "Starry, Starry Night."  Besides being wonderful in its own right, 
Don invited Nanci to be his special guest.  She was clearly thrilled to 
be there, hopping around the stage and clapping and dancing and smiling 
smiling smiling, surprising Don by tapping him on the shoulder as she 
entered the stage from a different direction than expected, and most 
charmingly by finishing her duet with Don on his song "And I Love You 
So" with an exclamation "I've just sung with Don McLean!!"   I remember 
buying Don's first two albums (still have them) and that time in the 
early 70's is associated with poignant feelings including my first 
girlfriend.  To extend those emotions to the next century and to 
associate Don's beautiful song-writing and still beautiful delivery with 
Nanci is almost more than one can bear, smile-wise.  Even Garth Brooks 
really shone.  I'm not a fan, but when Don introduced Garth near the end 
of the program and had him sing "Empty Chairs" by himself, I was very 
touched.  Garth did a beautiful job on one of Don's loveliest songs.  
The climax came with Don, Garth and Nanci reprising the last few verses 
of "American Pie."  The memory of that happy lively interaction will be 
with me for quite a while.  I'm sure some of you out there saw the 
original concert in Austin and I envy you.

David.

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Subject: NN: re: I am not a dufous!
   Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 11:56:03 -0800 (PST)
   From: Bob Riegner (rg48@yahoo.com>

Lest I be labeled a "male chauvenist* pig," let me say
that for the last 20 years I believe that at least 85%
of the best music has been written and performed by
women.  Therefore, the vast majority of the music I
listen to are performed by women, such as:

Nanci Griffith (of course)**
Mary Chapin Carpenter
Cheryl Wheeler
Lucy Kaplansky
Irene Kelley
Mary Black
Julie Miller
Kim Richey
Denice Franke
Judy Collins
Stacie Earle
and the list goes on.
And yes I do think that Joni Mitchell was/is an
influential song writer---I'm just a little sensitive
about Dylan (has anyone noticed?).

Footnotes:
*I can't even spell it, so how could I be one?

**I, of course am madly in love with this woman.  I
think she is the finest singer, song writer performing
today...and her graciousness and unselfishness only
adds to her being the most endearing artist I have
ever
listened to.  I also, think she has been one of the
most influential musicians of the past 20 years or so.

O.K. back to lurking(I promise)
Bob Riegner 

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Subject: Re: NN: re: I am not a dufous!
   Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 11:33:12 EST
   From: Petop@aol.com

rg48@yahoo.com writes:

(( at least 85%
 of the best music has been written and performed by
 women >>

Never wanting to back away from a good fight, I must suggest the above 
statement really negates the efforts of such artist as (listed in no 
particular order):
Townes Van Zandt
Lyle Lovett
Bruce Cockburn
Ray Wylie Hubbard
John Gorka
Jackson Browne
Paul Simon
Martin Sexton
Chris Isaak
Bob Marley
Randy Newman
Tom Waits
Johnny Cash
Chris Smither
Stan Rogers
Tom Rush
Guy Clark
James McMurtry
Peter Gabriel
Loudon Wainright III
Vince Bell
Pete Seeger
Woody Guthrie
Joe Ely
Bill Morrissey
Steve Earle
Butch Hancock
Jimmie Dale Gilmore
Tom Russell
Jesse Winchester
Van Morrison
Richard Thompson
Ry Cooder
John Hiatt
Willis Alan Ramsey
Willie Nelson
Bruce Springsteen
Cliff Eberhardt
Jimmy Lafave
Brooks Williams
Terry Allen
Robert Earl Keen
Gram Parsons
Marc Cohn
Ellis Paul
Richard Shindell
Dave Alvin
James Taylor
Hank Williams
John Prine
Cliff Eberhardt
Fred Eaglesmith
Billy Bragg
Sting
Roger McGuinn
Jerry Garcia
Keb Mo
Leonard Cohen
Chuck Berry
Elvis Presley
B.B. King
Shake Russell
Dana Cooper
Robert Johnson
Rick Danko
Robbie Robertson
Richard Manuel
Levon Helm
Garth Hudson
Eric Clapton

  To even suggest that the above list comprises only 15% "of the best music" 
is completely absurd. Hell, Dylan alone comprises 15%, at least, so that must 
mean that all the male artists mentioned above must be completely 
insignificant. I would not try to make that argument to any serious music 
historian.
   Not only that, your list left off the two women artists who recorded the 
best albums of the last couple of years, Lucinda Williams and Mary Gauthier.
   Which gives me another opportunity to plug this latter artist. If you like 
Lucinda Williams, go out and immediately get a copy of "Drag Queens in 
Limousines" by Mary Gauthier, still the best album of 1999. I promise, you 
will not be disappointed. If you are not big on Lucinda Williams, well, then, 
you should be.

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Subject: NN: sessions at w54th st (possible nanci content)
   Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 20:08:56 -0000
   From: "Paul" (paul@preeve.clara.co.uk>

Hi all

Just spotted in the radio times here in the uk

TNT satellite channel is airing the sessions programs at 11.30pm Sunday
nights.
I've no idea how long this has been going on, there is no advance
information on their teletext, so any of interest to Nancinet may have
already been transmitted.
TNT Europe apparently do not have a web site - I have an address and will
drop them a snail mail but will not be able to post any results until I get
back from NY (next Monday)

Also for anyone who has digital satellite, the Tara channel showed
Transatlantic sessions earlier today.

Amazing what you find if you read the listings!

Paul

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Subject: NN: Another Nanci Fan
   Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 16:20:48 EST
   From: BMiller224@aol.com

I don't know if any of you are following the ABC series "Once and Again" from 
the producers of "thirtysomething" and "My So-Called Life."

I must admit, for some reason it appeals to me so far.  I use to enjoy 
watching "thirtysomething" to see how the cast of yuppie characters absurdly 
overreacted to everyday situations.  This one is a little more appealing, 
also heavily character-driven but with more substantial plots.  There's a 
carryover character, Miles Cantrell, from "thirtysomething."

Anyway, I was browsing their Web site at www.onceandagain.com the other day.  
It has descriptions of the characters including things not mentioned on the 
show itself so far.

The lead female character, Lily Manning, played by native Mississippian Sela 
Ward, gives her favorite singer as Nancy [sic] Griffith.  Her boyfriend, Rick 
Sammler, played by Billy Campbell, gives his favorite album as "Lyle Lovett 
and His Large Band," also a Nanci connection, since he used to be in her 
band.  I don't recall having heard any Nanci or Lyle songs on the show.

The Lily character is in the process of divorcing her husband, who is a 
charming but financially incompetent scamster.  Lily is bright, well-educated 
and lively (she would probably prefer "vivacious") and is a conscientious 
mother of two girls.

But at 41, she's facing divorce and slowly realizing that she has expected 
all her life that some man (father, husband) would take care of her. In the 
last original episode, she decided to give up her part-time job working at 
her younger sister's bookstore and get something that would pay more and make 
more use of her education and talents.

I wonder what her favorite Nanci song is.  She probably likes "Ford 
Econoline."  But "A Wing and a Wheel" is probably her favorite.

There was a time, not so long ago, when it would have been newsworthy that a 
prime-time TV series featured a woman dating actively while she's still 
married, even though she and her husband are separated.  Now it doesn't cause 
a ripple.  Some critics have noticed that some of the love scenes wouldn't 
have made it past the censor in years not-so-long past

I noticed when I was in Mississippi last fall that the main street into 
downtown Meridian has been renamed Sela Ward Parkway.

Bruce Miller
Oakland CA

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Subject: NN: John Prine and Iris DeMent
   Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 09:07:37 EST
   From: LeeMcAbee@aol.com

Folks:
    I must plug the current John Prine/Iris Dement tour.  The tour is in 
support of Prine's new album, "Inspite of Ourselves".  I went to see their 
show on saturday night in Asheville, NC and it was fantastic.  Iris was 
excellent, playing a 45 minute set unaccompanied except by her guitar and 
piano playing.  John played for a good 2 1/2 hours both with his two piece 
band and solo.  He must have played for 45 minutes alone.  He looked great 
and sounded great and seems to have recovered fully from his bout with 
cancer.  It was good to see him playing with such intensity again.  If they 
come to your town, it is a show that you don't want to miss.

Lee McAbee

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Subject: Re: NN: John Prine and Iris DeMent
   Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 05:17:30 +1000 (GMT+1000)
   From: "Joanne T. Crotts" (jtarpley@uog9.uog.edu>

I must second this emotion.  I had the pleasure of seeing the show in
Charlotte and it ranks as one of the best I have ever seen.  I'm impressed
that Prine could pull off such an energetic show two nights in a row.

Two thoughts-the man hasn't written a bad song and his "old" stuff
holds up great.

The Charlotte crowd had some loudmouths yelling for their personal
favorite.  Prine handled it with wit and grace until one idiot wouldn't
quit talking and John finally told him to "Shut Up!".  This earned Prine
his first standing ovation.

Life is a blessing

Joanne "Eatin' alot of peaches" Crotts

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Subject: Re: NN: Eliza Carthy
   Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 14:47:33 GMT
   From: "John Courtney" (jc_riselaw@hotmail.com>

Eliza Carthy is a fine singer, songwriter and fiddle player; a well-known 
figure in traditional and contemporary folk in the UK.

As a bit of nearly-sort-of-nanci content, she did an excellent cover of June 
Tabor's "Shameless Love".

John C.

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Subject: NN: Tarrytown and...?
   Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 10:18:57 -0500
   From: James Brock (James.Brock@revolutionmagazine.com>

I will be at the concert Friday in Tarrytown. How many others are going?

My favorite female artist? One listen to Nina Simone is all it takes.


James Brock     Copy Editor, Revolution 
220 Fifth Avenue, 14th Floor, New York, NY 10001
Office: 212.471.8714  
james.brock@revolutionmagazine.com

The magazine for business and marketing in the digital economy
www.revolutionmagazine.com

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Subject: NN: Nanci
   Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 22:20:20 EST
   From: Tricia9999@aol.com

With east coast concerts starting on Thursday and with the decision I made 
not to make the trip to Princeton for her show there, I put on some Nanci to 
listen to tonight. OFSE began and I had to stop what I was doing and turn it 
up. Then decided to watch the video and run it through the speakers volume 
high, lights out. This was different than when I put on DBS recently and was 
able to continue doing stuff at my desk. OFSE just wouldn't allow me to do 
that.

So I am looking forward to reports from any of you in NY,MA,NJ,DE,VA,NC who 
will be going to see her this month and next. Don't leave anything out.

(Mimi Farina, younger sister to Joan Baez, and longtime organizer of the 
Bread and Roses benefit concerts is fighting lung cancer. Keep her in your 
thoughts.)

Best to all,
Tricia

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Subject: NN: Cover version of 'Listen To The Radio'
   Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 10:02:42 +0100
   From: Georg (gvallest@c2i.net>

I recently heard last half a good cover version of this
on the radio. The singer's name was not mentioned. Does
anyone know who this could be? The style reminded me a
little of Mary-Chapin Carpenter.

Georg

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Subject: Re: NN: Cover version of 'Listen To The Radio'
   Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 08:35:18 EST
   From: "Tracy Applebaum" (poohbear512@hotmail.com>

Kathy Mattea recorded this song...could it have been her?

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Subject: Re: NN: Cover version of 'Listen To The Radio'
   Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 10:12:31 EST
   From: Petop@aol.com

(( I recently heard last half a good cover version of this
 on the radio. The singer's name was not mentioned. Does
 anyone know who this could be?  >>

I know the song has been covered by Kathy Mattea and Juice Newton.

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Subject: NN: Fw: Cover version of 'Listen To The Radio'
   Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 14:38:18 +0100
   From: "Hans Janssen" (hans.janssen@zeelandnet.nl>

> I recently heard last half a good cover version of this
> on the radio. The singer's name was not mentioned. Does
> anyone know who this could be? The style reminded me a
> little of Mary-Chapin Carpenter.

George,

Maybe Nanci herself gave the answer on the bootleg "Live in Boston 1992".
Before the song starts Nanci tells that "Listen to the radio" is released
that week by Katth Matea

Hans

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Subject: NN: How Would You Torch Nanci?
   Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:57:25 EST
   From: Petop@aol.com

    Because the music I like to listen to rarely, if ever, gets played on 
Dallas radio, I make compilation CDRs to play in the car. Among the cuts I 
put on a CDR last night was "Drops From a Faucet" off Nanci's "Dust Bowl 
Symphony" release. While listening it occurred to me that I would love to 
hear an entire CD of Nanci singing torch songs backed by a simple jazz 
quartet--standup bass, guitar, piano, drums. I, for one, think it could be a 
killer if produced correctly.
    If anyone else out there is intrigued by this notion, then the next step 
is to figure out what songs Nanci should record for this album. I would start 
with "Cry Me a River," "Say It Isn't So," "Fever," "Why Don't You Do Right" 
and "Falling in Love With Love."
   So my questions are: (1) Would you like to see Nanci record an album of 
torch songs and (2). If so, what songs would you want to see her sing on such 
an album.

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Subject: Re: NN: How Would You Torch Nanci?
   Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 10:28:12 -0600
   From: chevelle@pnx.com

> So my questions are: (1) Would you like to see Nanci record an album of 
> torch songs and (2). If so, what songs would you want to see her sing on
> such an album.

This is a great idea!  I'd buy it.  I am not sure she would want to
actually do this compilation, but it sounds good to me.
  I'd add anything by Nina Simone, and "Love Has No Pride", TVZ's "If I
Needed You", her own "Moon Of The Misbegotten", Mac McAnally's "There I'll
Be", Blaze Foley's "Oooh Love", and I think she and the BMO could do a fine
job on Bruce Hornsby's "Fields Of Gray".

Hank "last day of Mardi Gras" Van Slyke

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Subject: Re: NN: How Would You Torch Nanci?
   Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 12:07:12 EST
   From: Catelaw@aol.com

>  This is a great idea!  I'd buy it.  I am not sure she would want to
>  actually do this compilation, but it sounds good to me.

I also like this idea, but would still prefer the original work CD to come 
first.
However, if Nanci did a "torch" CD, I'd like to hear her take on "Shattered" 
(also off Linda Rondstadt's "Cry Like a Rainstorm") and the classic "Stormy 
Weather."

Cate, in Atlanta

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Subject: NN: Reading the archives...
   Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 22:32:48 EST
   From: VickiStein@aol.com

Hi to all,

I'm back after a trade show in Tampa, logging back onto the list a little 
earlier than expected because of the promise of a laptop to take to Las Vegas 
tomorrow.  I read through the archives from 3/01 to 3/04, and it looks to me 
as if I missed a lot of fun discourse!  It seems as if my beloved Beatles, 
Elvis Costello, and even the Indigo Girls were mentioned!  All in the course 
of a few days!  How could I have missed this?????  

When I return to town this weekend, my "wee one" and I will help decorate for 
a "Kay-Leigh" (and for the life o' me, I cannot spell that in the true Celtic 
form, something like "cladeigh"...forgive me for my ignorance ~ this is an 
annual thing, you'd think it would've penetrated by now), at which several of 
my friends will perform both traditional Irish music and contemporary folk 
songs.   It's a big bash, a thousand people or more attend, and we do share 
the floor with a wonderful pipe band!  I can't wait!  This is the best St. 
Patrick's party in town, and  you can always count on at least one or two 
Nanci-penned songs to be part of the festivities!  

Hope you all are well!  Looking forward to the weekend, and to be out of 
these patent leather trade show shoes and to forego the shiny happy people 
smile, I remain,

warmly,

Vicki

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Subject: NN: Re: Reading the archives...
   Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 23:16:31 -0500
   From: "Shawn Kimbro" (kimbroj@charter.net>

> It's a big bash, a thousand people or more attend, and
> we do share the floor with a wonderful pipe band!  

How kind of you to allow time for the handicapped.  (big wide grin>

-Shawn

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