NanciNet Digest 3-10-00
// CONCERT REPORTS!!!! Complete with info about a new song!
// Nanci content, and complaints about lack thereof.
// Some non-Nanci content, including some silliness, and ending
// with an off-topic discussion of Dylan that turns full circle
// and ends with Nanci content!
// Enjoy...[BP]
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Subject: NN: 3/9/00 Tarrytown, NY concert
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 00:45:16 -0500
From: Bob Ivers (bivers@sprintmail.com>
A brief report on the 3/9/00 Tarrytown, NY show...
A solo Rodney Crowell opened the show and played for about 40 minutes
before being joined by Guy Clark (and Clark's lead guitarist) for three
songs. Crowell then left the stage and Clark and his lead guitarist played
for about a half hour before an intermission.
Nanci came out at 9:00, accompanied by James Hooker (piano), Ron de la Vega
(bass & cello) and Pat McInerney (percussion). She looked healthy and
happy and her voice was strong and true. The songs performed were:
Across The Great Divide
Trouble In The Fields
Love At The Five And Dime
These Days In An Open Book
Not My Way Home
Outbound Plane
Gulf Coast Highway
Tecumseh Valley
Traveling Through This Part Of You
If I Had A Hammer
I Still Miss Someone (Crowell added for the rest of the show)
Till I Gain Control Again (Crowell on lead vocal)
She Ain't Goin' Nowhere (Clark and his guitarist added for the show)
Dublin Blues
Do Re Mi
It's A Hard Life Wherever You Go
Old Friends
The show ended at 10:18.
"Traveling Through This Part Of You" was described by Nanci as a "brand
spanking new" song that she wrote based on waking up in Viet Nam in the
middle of the night on her recent trip there and thinking that she was
right in the middle of what went wrong with her marriage. She mentioned
that her ex, Eric Taylor, was a Viet Nam vet and dedicated the song to all
the veterans.
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Subject: NN: Nanci, Guy and Rodney
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 00:46:26 -0500
From: "Brian Mich" (b.mich@worldnet.att.net>
Saw Nanci with Guy Clark and Rodney Crowell at the Town Hall in Tarrytown,
NY tonight. What a wonderful concert! Nanci was in great form (though the
sound could have been a bit better on the more upbeart numbers like Outbound
Plane and These Days where she was drowned out by the band) and Guy was a
delight! Their duetting on his "Dublin Blues" was definitely the highlight!
Definitely flying high from a wonderful time.
Brian
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From: "Pugsley, R.M." (rmp6@leicester.ac.uk>
Subject: NN: RE: 3/9/00 Tarrytown, NY concert
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 10:32:58 -0000
((("Traveling Through This Part Of You" was described by Nanci as a "brand
spanking new" song that she wrote based on waking up in Viet Nam in the
middle of the night on her recent trip there and thinking that she was
right in the middle of what went wrong with her marriage. She mentioned
that her ex, Eric Taylor, was a Viet Nam vet and dedicated the song to all
the veterans.>>>
OK, so we have a new song! Only eight or nine more and we got an album,
and only backed with piano, bass/cello and drums - sounds good...
but what was it like?
Robert (Pugsley)
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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 07:26:50 -0500
From: Charles (crs@optonline.net>
Subject: Re: NN: RE: 3/9/00 Tarrytown, NY concert
"Traveling Through This Part Of You"
It was amazing....an instant classic...after the show she remarked that she
was "very proud" of the song...overall she was in fine form.
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Subject: NN: Re: Cory Sipper
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 23:13:29 -0800
From: Earl Shimabukuro (early@ix.netcom.com>
Hey, all. Thank you kindly, and lemme tell you why...and please
pardon me for being such a horrible lurking NanciNetter, as I've
been majorly stressed by work and school for over a year and
have only just gotten back to the idea of life again!
I just love it when other people talk about some great music that
they listen to that I may not have found, otherwise. It's a precious
way to find new listenings. Thankyouthankyouthankyou!!!
My big present to you would be to try listening to Cory Sipper.
She's a very sincere sweetie from Santa Barbara who is trying
to make it independently, like Ani did, and I simply can't say
enough about Cory.
Cory's website is here: http://www.buzzworm.com/corysipper/
I actually got this off a Nancinetter 3-4 years ago and have never
been the same since. Cory has this voice that cuts into your soul.
In her songs, especially on her incredible album, Orbiter, Cory
deals with existential matters openly, wavering between being
a realist and a dreamer. All her music is purposely written to
enhance her lyrical themes, and her voice has this quality about it
that, with each listening, cuts into you with the ideas she's singing
about. I also find her chord changes always freshly innovative
instead of cliche, and, whether solo or with full band, Cory is
definitely amazing. Having met with her several times, she's also
very friendly and so very special.
If anyone checks her music out at the website, it's real audio files
so it's fast, and if you wanna write me to talk about her lyrics
that would be fine. First came Nanci, who got me through my B.A.
degree and personal crazinesses; then came Cory, who got me
through my M.A. and will undoubtedly stay with me, like Nanci,
as an eternal comfort during hard times.
Earl
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Subject: NN: Where's the Nanci content?
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 05:52:38 -0500
From: "Flanagan, Shirley" (FlanagaS@bsci.com>
Didn't this used to be a Nanci Griffith digest? Seems like it's
turned into a bulletin board for people who feel their opinion on music
in general is of interest to the rest of us. How borish of you all to
CONTINUALLY let the rest of us know your personal music tastes and who
has a profound effect on your CD players, e.g. Eliza Carthy, Nina
Simone.etc......on and on and on.... then we have the
lists............week after week with the lists of 10-20 names of
artists. I DON'T CARE if you like them or not.
I don't want to read this stuff - a little is OK but not the level its
currently at. You have to SEARCH for Nanci's name in her own LIST -
come on! I want to hear reviews on concert dates, I want to hear where
she'll be playing next, what TV shows she'll be on, I want to hear
where Nanci was last spotted having a coffee for Gods sake!!
Can we get back to basics please? I'm tempted to 'uns*bscr*be'........
real bad.
Shirley Flanagan
Galway, Ireland
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From: VickiStein@aol.com
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 13:53:39 EST
Subject: Re: NN: Where's the Nanci content?
FlanagaS@bsci.com writes:
(( I want to hear reviews on concert dates, I want to hear where
she'll be playing next, what TV shows she'll be on, I want to hear
where Nanci was last spotted having a coffee for Gods sake!! >>
Shirley,
With all due respect, and your point is well taken, there are a lot of empty
days with "Nanci nothingness" in between the concert dates, the TV shows, and
where she was last spotted having coffee. There is no new Nanci music to
discuss. The most recent news I can't relay is about her PBS appearance with
Don M. Haven't viewed it yet ~ no comment...
If you want more Nanci content, at least until something newsworthy comes to
pass or someone spots Nanci at a bookstore, post a specific topic!. Pose a
question or an insight you have about a song. People will jump on it, and
there will be lively discourse.
Have a good weekend, everyone.
Vicki
I am guilty of posting Non-Nanci material.
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From: Annavedo@aol.com
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 15:50:28 EST
Subject: Re: NN: Where's the Nanci content?
I agree with Vicki.... Until there's news to relate about Nanci, I'd rather
hear something than nothing! Especially since it comes from folks who have
similar sensibilities as me. I've learned of a lot of good music since
coming to this list, and it didn't always have anything to do with Nanci.
Plus, my husband is jealous, because unlike him, I can ALWAYS count on
hearing "You've Got Mail!"
*Anne*
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From: "Christina O'Neill" (oneillchristina@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: NN: Where's the Nanci content?
I have a suggestion for those people who aren't interested in the non-Nanci
content...
Unsubscribe from the digest, set up a free email account thru yahoo,
hotmail, etc. that you use solely for NanciNet. Subscribe to the regular
list and just delete without reading those threads that don't have anything
to do with Nanci. I don't have a separate list for NanciNet, but once I
know what a thread is about, if I'm not interested in it, I just delete
those messages. It works really well for me. You couldn't do this with the
digest which is why I suggested the regular list.
Be sure, though, you'll be deleting more than you are reading some days, if
all you are interested in is Nanci. I don't always agree with the list,
I've had long periods where I was disenchanted with NG's music, etc., I've
had long periods where I was interested in everything BUT Nanci content, but
I've learned SO much about music from this list (more than I thought I
wanted) that I would "desub...ibe" if I thought I couldn't get non-Nanci
info. here...
Just a suggestion and my 2%.
Christy in STL
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Subject: NN: Happy Boomers
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 08:57:19 -0500
From: Steve Robertson (stever@mindspring.com>
Well, I've watched "Starry, Starry Night" twice- once with pledge breaks
and once without. I think it's safe to say that I've never seen so many
ecstatically happy Baby Boomers in one room. Whenever the camera pans
across the audience, every face bears the unmistakeable blissful grin
that is the hallmark of a great concert. If enough members of younger
generations take the time to watch this performance, I believe Don's
new-found popularity will justify a new album and a national tour.
But I couldn't help but notice that Nanci had to refer to a lyric sheet
on the floor repeatedly to get through her verse of "American Pie".
She's been memorizing other people's songs throughout her career. I
wonder why she had so much difficulty with this song?
Hidin' Out in the Georgia Pines-
Wishin' It Would Rain,
Steve Robertson
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Subject: NN: RE: Happy Boomers
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 06:27:47 -0800
From: "Susan Krauss" (susankrauss@earthlink.net>
Steve Robertson wrote:
> But I couldn't help but notice that Nanci had to refer to a lyric sheet
> on the floor repeatedly to get through her verse of "American Pie".
> She's been memorizing other people's songs throughout her career. I
> wonder why she had so much difficulty with this song?
It's my understanding that Nanci was included on this show at the very last
minute. And while many of us can sing along with "American Pie" when it
comes on the radio, I doubt most of us could sing it live without referring
to the lyrics - especially when we haven't had time to prepare.
susan
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Subject: NN: hodge podge
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 10:38:20 EST
From: Tastho@aol.com
Vicki, I think the correct spelling is Ceili. Ricky Skaggs label is named Ceili
Records. He must have attended a few of these in Ireland, or maybe he's crashed
one of yours in the past?
I was also at the Charlotte John/Iris concert. They were both wonderful, and
they played so long that we all really got our money's worth. Unfortunately, as
Joanne mentioned, the crowd's behavior was appalling. I've been in some rowdy
audiences before, but this one took the cake. You could tell it was frustrating
John, and it made me wonder how I would have handled the situation if I were in
his shoes. As Joanne said, he ignored it as long as he could, until finally he
made a few comments, including the "shut up man." After John made that
particular
comment, he and Iris went to sing another song. Iris was to start, but got
tickled, so they waited a minute and she went back up to the mic. When she
tried to start, she just started laughing again. Through laughter, she was able
to ekk out that she was "gonna get fired."
John finally took Iris' part and got the song started. Pretty fun moment to
have been witness to.
I like Once and Again too, Bruce. I would have pegged the other mom as the
Nanci fan though.
Less than two weeks till Nanci and Guy at the Birchmere!
Tasha
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Subject: NN: ceilidh
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 13:28:22 EST
From: Tastho@aol.com
I've just been told by an Edinburgh residing nancinetter that "that word" is
actually spelled
ceilidh.
I stand corrected. It's just like us Americans to shorten the spelling to make
it easier on
ourselves. ;-)
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From: "Pugsley, R.M." (rmp6@leicester.ac.uk>
Subject: NN: RE: ceilidh
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 10:05:04 -0000
but can someone please tell me how to pronounce 'Fleadh'?
(if that's how you spell it)
Robert (Pugsley)
(the only non-Dylan fan on the list, apparently...)
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From: nannynan@earthling.net
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 14:36:13 -0500
Subject: NN: pronouncing celtic words
>but can someone please tell me how to pronounce 'Fleadh'?
>(if that's how you spell it)
I am told it's pronounced Flah (rhymes with ha). I'm pretty sure you
spelled it right. My theory on the Irish spelling is that they
purposely put in all those extra consonants that aren't pronounced so
that the British can't figure them out.
Nanci with a Y
Karmageddon: It's like, when everybody is sending off all these
really bad vibes, right? And then, like, the Earth explodes and
it's like a serious bummer.
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Subject: NN: land mines
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 09:11:43 -0800 (PST)
From: Reid Mitchell (reidmitchell@yahoo.com>
Has there been any reports of Ms. Griffith's trip to
Cambodia and elsewhere and her reactions to what she
saw? I dreamed last month of having a long
conversation with her and Ms. Lee Satterfield on the
subject but dream discussions are rarely if ever
admissable evidence.
Reid
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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 08:05:15 -0800
From: Susan Peete (suepeete@cruzio.com> | Block address
Subject: NN: Traveling Through This Part
Bob Ivers wrote:
>"Traveling Through This Part Of You" was described by Nanci as a "brand
>spanking new" song that she wrote based on waking up in Viet Nam in the
>middle of the night on her recent trip there and thinking that she was
>right in the middle of what went wrong with her marriage. She mentioned
>that her ex, Eric Taylor, was a Viet Nam vet and dedicated the song to all
>the veterans.
Speaking of Viet Nam Veterans...you might remember, back in early December,
Nanci joined Emmylou Harris in a Series of concerts to help support the
Campaign for a Landmine Free World.
At the concerts, audience members had the opportunity to buy beautifully
made scarves to help support this cause. They were made by Cambodian women
who were victims of land mine explosions.
These same scarves will be for sale at Nanci's up-coming concerts at the
Birchmere 3/20, 3/21 and 3/22 in Alexandria, VA.
So take some extra money, if you are planning on going to one of these three
concerts. The scarves make great gifts and you know Mother's Day is coming up
soon.
Cheers
Sue
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Subject: NN: Checking in from the Mars Hotel
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 15:23:36 -0500
From: "Panchyshyn,Roman" (panchysr@oclc.org>
Hey folks,
I bet it's true that many of us have extremely fond memories of Nanci's
music and her lyrics, they remind us of special places, special people,
important times in our lives, etc... For me, when I hear LATFAD, it brings
back Telluride 1987, when I first heard Nanci perform. Wing & Wheel brings
back memories of friends back East, that I hardly speak to anymore. Sweet
Dreams Will Come brings back my wife and I driving through Rocky Mtn. Natl.
Park with no cares in the world.
When I was growing up, Beatles' music and lyrics had the same effect on me.
Certain songs still bring "flashbacks" (a very popular word at the time) of
people, places and events, like slow dancing to "Yesterday", singing "Lady
Madonna" in a Catholic school, and "Give Peace a Chance" at peace rallies.
Well, lately, there doesn't seem to be much peace on this list, seems like
there is a little edge to it. Someone who wanted to discuss Mary Margaret
was shot down. Now we have another Nanci-netter who is quitting the list
because it's no longer fun. Maybe we're getting too much off the topic, or
coming down with a bad case of spring fever.
Whatever it is, this is starting to remind me of another John Lennon song,
the lyrics to which I have posted below:
Nobody Told Me
John Lennon
Everybody's talking and no one says a word
// At this point I have snipped most of these lyrics to
// save space for more digest messages. Anyone who wants the
// entire lyric can contact Roman or me. [BP]
Maybe we need a new discussion topic, like which Nanci song brings you
serious flashbacks, and why?
Gotta go now, I think I see a UFO outside the window.
Roman from Ohio
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Subject: NN: Richard Thompson in Concert
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 16:01:07 -0500
From: "Polland, Hugh" (hpolland@email.uncc.edu>
On March 3, I caught Richard Thompson with his band in Charlotte, NC. His
show was outstanding.It was one of the best shows I've ever seen. If you get
a chance to see Richard you won't be disappointed. He really rocks the
place. Hugh
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From: "Tina Shackleford" (tshack@sprynet.com>
Subject: NN: Re: Richard Thompson in Concert
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 08:39:52 -0600
Polland, Hugh (hpolland@email.uncc.edu> wrote:
>On March 3, I caught Richard Thompson with his band in Charlotte, NC. His
>show was outstanding. It was one of the best shows I've ever seen. If you
>get a chance to see Richard you won't be disappointed.
I have a ticket to see Richard Thompson next Thursday during my vacation to
California. I've seen him several times solo and acoustic, but never with
a full band. I am counting the days!
Tina
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Subject: NN: 1999 Top Ten
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 17:05:20 EST
From: Tricia9999@aol.com
Did we ever get a synopsis of this endeavor? I may have missed it....
Tricia
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Subject: Re: NN: 1999 Top Ten
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 23:30:48 EST
From: VickiStein@aol.com
Tricia9999@aol.com writes:
(( Did we ever get a synopsis of this endeavor? I may have missed it..>>
Tricia and all,
No, you did not. I apologize for that. I knew I had the time to compile the
list, when I originally volunteered, during the Christmas holiday. And then
the list, by popular request, was extended until January 9, and I agreed,
though I knew it would be trouble for me, because, from a work and a
personal standpoint, this is the absolute busiest time of the year. I head
up three tradeshows, marketing plan, budget management, annual ROM's
(Responsibilities, Objectives, Measurements) ~ (translate any way that you
want, I will smile...), my daughter's school talent show, and the Read-A-Thon
at her school. Additionally, kick in two book clubs, two choirs, and other
miscellaneous stuff, and I, basically, have fallen way short from initial
intention. I agree with Shawn's original suggestion ~ give it to me by
Christmas and I will perform. Knowing my annual time frame, I should have
said...NO, no changes in the deadline...but, I did not. Year end music made
not much, if any, difference.
However, I have fallen short of your expectations, and, again, I apologize.
I've compiled some of the data, and will work toward finishing it. I'm sorry
that the time frame is not in sync, but this is the best I can do. Family
and work come first. If you all will give me until March 25, we will have a
solid end of the year compilation.
I'm far from home right now and have no paper record of your choices, but it
is on my mind.
Peace, and have a great tomorrow.....
"A year has passed since I wrote my note..."
Vicki, "hoping that someone gets my"....Stein
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Subject: NN: Tickets for Northampton Gig
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 18:09:41 -0500
From: Rob Schrull (RSchrull@gbla.com>
Hi Folks:
Long time no email to you.
I'm planning on going to the Northampton Mass gig and a fellow contacted me
about helping him with his tickets. He has good seats, but due to the fact
that family just had a newborn, he can't make it to the gig. If any of
you would like to go and need some tickets, he would appreciate any
contribution you can make to defer is cost. So...contact me if you wish,
as I'll be picking up the tickets for him.
Hope you all are doing great. I'm off around the country lately, having
just been to Kalispel working with a group up there. What wonderful
mountains!
All the best,
Rob
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Subject: NN: Speaking of Stacey Earle, Colorado concerts
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 16:15:51 -0700
From: Norm Watson (normw@bwn.net>
For Colorado folks, Stacey Earle and her brother will be touring here next
week.
3/15 Soilded Dove Denver 303-299-0100
3/16 Sunset Night Club Fort Collins
3/18 Hotel Colorado Glenwood Springs
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Subject: NN: oh sure......
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 23:52:08 -0600
From: "n gaunt" (pawandporschecafe@email.msn.com>
O.K., anyone can be at the top. any suggestions for musicians/artist who
should be at THE BOTTOM of these lists?
i bring this up because a local bookstore has a decal that says to the
effect "just because no one understands you does not make you an artist".
----------
Nicholas at The Paw and Porsche Cafe
Austin Dallas Santa Fe
"I used to go crazy for days at a time. Now I'm taking my time with my
days"
-j.buffett
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From: nannynan@earthling.net
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 14:40:33 -0500
Subject: NN: bottom feeders
>>O.K., anyone can be at the top. any suggestions for musicians/artist who
>>should be at THE BOTTOM of these lists?
Well, I would think the all time worst (and one of the funniest)
recordings of the 20th Century was William Shatner's "Lucy in the
Sky....with.....Diamonds." Another really strange album is called
"Bob Dylan, Poet; Sebastian Cabot, Actor" oh which Cabot *recites*
Dylan lyrics as the tunes play in the background. Unbelieveable.
Nancy with a Y
I'm not going to vacuum 'til Sears makes one you can ride on. --- Roseanne
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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 08:25:59 -0500
From: kenn lippert (lippert@fyi.net> | Block address
Subject: Re: NN: oh sure......
>"I used to go crazy for days at a time. Now I'm taking my time with my days"
> -j.buffett
The Buffet quote reminds me of something I said in a meeting
recently. Four other "technical types" (although they were all
*real* scientists) and myself had to meet with the head of technology
for Alcoa to discuss why we had such a hard time being "creative",
and why our attitude was so bad. During the course of the discussion
one of the others shared how he often felt that he was being treated
like an outcast whenever he had a new idea or challenged the "way
we've always done it." The big boss tried to console him by
repeating the oft' heard: "All the great minds were treated like
lunatics in their own time; Einstein, Newton, Copernicus". At which
time I pointed out that there were a whole lot more people throughout
history that were called lunatics, that were just, well, nuts. The
big boss did not appreciate it.
Turning the tiller back to Nanci. In Bob Ivers' Tarrytown concert
report, he mentions the song "Old Friends". As in the Simon &
Garfunkel song? What a great set list. I have the goosebumps just
thinking about it.
kenn "not looney or creative" lippert
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From: VickiStein@aol.com
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 03:02:59 EST
Subject: Re: NN: oh sure......
((O.K., anyone can be at the top. any suggestions for musicians/artist who
should be at THE BOTTOM of these lists?>>
Notice how there are no groups called The Catfish, the Submarines, the Bottom
Feeders, Algae eaters...yada yada.. Maybe there are, I don't know of them.
I have three brilliant nephews, one of whom will be a famous musician
(according to Mikey, and he likes Life..)...these sweet little Catholic boys
have a band called "sofa kingdom" (sound it out). Put it this way, they
ain't Hanson.
I just read an e-mail from Mikey asking me, "Dear Aunt Vicki, will you
promote us?" I am like, YIKES!!!!! And why are you up so late????
I suppose it is my destiny to watch and learn. WWND? What Would Nanci Do?
Any answers?
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From: Halesbop@aol.com
Subject: Re: NN: oh sure......
Actually, Vicki, there was a blues/rock band called Catfish in the Detroit
area in the late 60's/early 70's which put out a few albums and had a
moderate regional FM hit with a song called "The Boogie Man's Gonna Get You",
if I recall right. 'Catfish' Hodge is still playing the blues, now around
Wash., DC, I believe.
Steve
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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 09:01:49 -0500
From: "Kristina Plath" (flyer23@angelfire.com>
Subject: NN: Everythings comin up ROSES!!
Hi All
After going through a considerable lapse in faith in Nanci (through no fault of
her own, I might add) I'm back on the wagon. I got tickets yesterday. Ok, one
ticket. Her show in Kingston on the 18th is gonna be attended by this here
flyer. Oooohohoooo I'm happy.
Anybody else going?? Can we meet up??
The Tarrytown show sounded great... I can't wait. last time I saw Nanci was
the summer of 1998... a low point for her, I guess, but now it sounds like
she's doing really well, and I'm lookin' forward to the 18th. I got a seat in
the orchestra, too.
It's comin up roses, everyday... oh by the dozen.... everyday....
Flyer
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Subject: NN: Dylan
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 15:58:19 -0000
From: "Pugsley, R.M." (rmp6@leicester.ac.uk>
Am I the only person here who, like, totally, doesn't
get Dylan?
Robert (Pugsley)
"Too sweet to be sour too nice to be mean"
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From: VickiStein@aol.com
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 01:52:48 EST
Subject: Re: NN: Dylan
Dylan is awesome...immediately, the only thing I can tell you is that
he started shiny happy people in the great US of A thinking that maybe,
just maybe, there is more to life than polished cars and mediocre jobs.
Dylan provoked social conscience when there wasn't one...it wasn't an
issue, life born of WWII and the 50's facade of a June Cleaver in every
household. An odd high in the US, when you consider every tragic
historical thing we have been through. We set expectations no one is
willing to recall or master, other than theoretically.
The U.S. of A. is high drama - it suffers from personality disorder.
The Times, they were a changing....Dylan writes poignant lyrics.
He started the young people in this country thinking, without the
misery of poets like Sylvia Plath or even Anne Sexton. Dylan said it
like it is (and was). (I might mention that Sylvia Plath is my focus
in my master's degree.) And how many poets can we write about...especially
those who love rhythm, meter, and mastering the
villanelle.?
Beyond that, Bob Dylan wrote simply and clearly.
"Tangled Up In Blue" is a story and a metaphor...listen and figure
it out.
I am certain that there are people on this list who can coin what
I have said about Bob more succinctly, and I hope they will chime in
with their opinions...I only know that Bob Dylan's lyrics and music
have been companion to me when I have needed music and guidance through
trying times. I would quote lyrics, but the list would be laborious...
My favorite Dylan song is relatively obscure, none of my friends
who get paid to make music know it all that well...
"Shut the light, shut the shade, you don't have to be afraid...
I'll be your baby tonight...kick your shoes off, do not fear, bring
that bottle over here, I'll be your baby tonight..."
What a comfort song! Better than a pedicure, better than a facial.
Better than sex on the rocks during red tide.
And red tide is quite fun.
As Sting sings, in my rotation, about the King of Pain...
Vicki (must be something about that hard rock...is there a cafe'?)
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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 08:00:28 -0700
Subject: NN: Dylanesque
From: Marty Welch (martyw@poky.srv.net>
The Honorable Mr. Pugsley wrote:
>(the only non-Dylan fan on the list, apparently...)
I dunno, but I'm looking forward to Dylan being way out in Idaho in a couple
o'weeks. It's been 25 years or so since I've been to a Dylan concert.
The last time he shared the stage with Joan Baez, Kinky Friedman and Roger
McGuinn. The concert was sold out and Joan Baez went out and entertained a
cappella those folks without tix. I imagine it'll be a bit less cosmic this
time.
Most exciting is that Ms. Nanci and the BMO will be in my area this summer.
I have my sights set for Deer Valley (although Kingsbury Hall would be very
nice if it turns out to be the venue in SLC) and Lyons.
Cheers,
Marty "don't follow leaders, watch your parking meters" Welch
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From: Annavedo@aol.com
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 01:56:41 EST
Subject: Re: NN: Dylan
rmp6@leicester.ac.uk writes:
<( Am I the only person here who, like, totally, doesn't get Dylan? >>
Wull, okay... You are like, SERIOUSLY the only guy who TOTALLY doesn't get
him. I mean, he's like....DUDE!
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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 05:55:59 -0500 (EST)
From: "Pugsley, R.M." (rmp6@leicester.ac.uk>
Subject: NN: Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 10:50:03 -0000
I give up. As far as I'm concerned the only half decent Dylan
album is the one with Johnny Cash on it and I haven't listened
to that for ages. Everything about the man irritates me,
the whiny voice, the supposedly clever but often incomprehensible
lyrics, but mostly the music...arrghhh...I'm falling asleep in my
chair just thinking about it.., the 'wacky' personality...although
I admit that story about him hiding in a cupboard made me laugh...
OK so Im in a minority of one here, but I feel that if everyone
spent a little bit more time NOT listening to Dylan and picking
something a bit more unusual off of the rack you all might benefit...
I know, don't tell your grandmother to suck eggs...sorry but life's
too short for Live at Budokan...
Robert (Pugsley)
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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:40:40 +0100
From: Georg (gvallest@c2i.net>
Subject: NN: Dylan live
Hi Robert.
It's been a while since I last listened to Dylan,
but 'At Budokan' is NOT the Dylan LP you should
listen too. For live Dylan, try at least Hard Rain
or Before The Flood instead.
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From: Petop@aol.com
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 10:22:00 EST
Subject: NN: Re: Dylan live and a Nanci question
(( For live Dylan, try at least Hard Rain
or Before The Flood instead. >>
I would also recommend the Live 1966 collection released last year. There
are also some wonderful field recordings available: Bob Dylan and Paul Simon
Live in Denver 1999 is a wonderful 3 CD collection that includes the full
sets of both. Dylan's At the Globe and Live at Madison Square Garden, both
from 1998 concerts, are also superb live recordings, but the Denver set
features him with his current band in which Charlie Sexton replaced Bucky
Baxter. I also recommend the album "Blood on the Tapes," which contains
alternate versions of the songs from "Blood on the Tracks." Some argue that
it is superior to the album that was eventually released.
Now to include a bit of Nanci in this post. Last night I was recalling
one of Nanci's Kerrville Folk Festival appearances back in the 1970s and I
remember the highlight of that show was her version of Mike Williams's
"Wichita Falls." She was a great champion of Mike's at the time, but I don't
think she has ever recorded this song. Does anyone here have a copy of her
singing that song? I have a version on a Mike Williams album, but I thought
Nanci's version was superior to the composer's.
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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 20:32:35 +0100
From: Georg (gvallest@c2i.net>
Subject: NN: Re: Dylan live and a Nanci question - Witchita Falls
>"Wichita Falls." She was a great champion of Mike's at the time, but I don't
>think she has ever recorded this song. Does anyone here have a copy of her
>singing that song? I have a version on a Mike Williams album, but I thought
>Nanci's version was superior to the composer's.
That song performed during the end credits of the OFSE video. Does that count
as an 'official' recording? Does anyone know about DVD relaease of this or
other Nanci stuff? My video has seen it's best days.
Georg
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From: Petop@aol.com
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 15:30:33 EST
Subject: Re: NN: Re: Dylan live and a Nanci question - Witchita Falls
(( Does that count
as an 'official' recording? >>
Counts for me. Have not seen the video. Does she have time to do the entire
song, with her patented howls?
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