NanciNet Digest 5-01-00
// A couple of more traveling songs, and some suggestions for
// a radio show. Can it really be May already???
// Enjoy...[BP]
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Subject: NN: Traveling Songs
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 01:06:14 EDT
From: BMBSPIRIT@cs.com
I must not be reading NNet enough because I missed the question on favorite
NG travelling songs. To me, they are the same ones as at home and they don't
need to be up tempo. I love seeing Nanci live,and especially when "Wing And A
Wheel" is part of the encore. I was surprised nobody picked it. I have a
wonderful Joni Mitchell story, but it should have been told when we were
commenting on the PBS tribute concert, which I also missed. Oh well,another
time.
P.S. I hear a lot of recommendations on new performers and think it is great
but if you want a treat and you aren't already a fan, get Dave Matthews and
Tim Reynolds Live at Luther College, It'll cure what ails you!
Bernie
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Subject: NN: Nanci was made for Roadtrips
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 01:39:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christina Myers (poetmuse@prodigy.net>
a little late to the party (as always) but couldn't resist the thread that's
hanging off the Nancinet's shirttail, so...
I like to drive. Maybe it's the idea of going somewhere new. Maybe it's the
idea of being alone with just my thoughts for two or more hours. Or maybe
it's just this innate need I seem to have to speed my body at 75 miles per
hour in a tiny little box made of tin and steel; who knows. But most my
friends agree I make damn good driving tapes. :)
Good driving choices are as follows:
Nanci- always and everything, but Flyer is a must and so
is Once in A Very Blue Moon followed by One Fair Summer Evening.
R.e.m.- mostly everything, but UP and Automatic (for those nighttime leavin'
love behind drives) and especially Reckoning get my high notices
Mary Chapin Carpenter- Stones in The Road
10.000 Maniacs- In My Tribe is a blessing, especially since I live in
Arizona and there are 2.5 songs dealing with my fair state on it...
everytime I get near Flagstaff I have to play "Painted Desert".
Eddi Reader- Angels & Electricity (and a cheat here- I much prefer a mix
tape of her stuff put together for me by a fellow Net'ter and dear friend)
Indigo Girls- Rites of Passage
Jonatha Brooke- 10cent wings
Sara Hickman- anything by her, really-but Necessary Angels holds a soft
place in my heart
Chris Isaak- anything, again, the man's voice can float you through the most
boring of sceneries (this from a woman's point of view mind you)and Speak of
The Devil (his latest) really makes me put the pedal to the metal, so to
speak.
The Beatles- depending on mood- sometimes the earlier stuff- sometimes the
latter years. In the words of some wise philosopher.... "It's all good."
Good driving music doesn't always have to be fast paced.. sometimes you need
the slow tunes to get you through the rough spots... and to make you think
you're not alone. :)
-Christina Myers
"There is always some madness in love, but there is also some reason to
madness." -Nietzche
Poems up for Grabs: http://members.aol.com/poetmuse/indexA.html
"This heart will be your true believer if you stay awhile..." Nanci Griffith
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Subject: Re: NN: Wake Up Call
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 21:14:10 -0500
From: "Virginia" (ginrose@midsouth.rr.com>
You Can't Go Home Again always makes me wistful for Austin.
What about Wheels?
Hugs,
Gin
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Subject: NN: DVDs in London - No Nanci content
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 19:50:29 +0200
From: Georg (gvallest@c2i.net>
It's just a month until I leave for London and RAH, so I wonder
if there are any good DVD shops in London with reasonable prices
(not HMV and Virgin)?
Georg
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Subject: NN: Mary Black
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 13:23:58 -0500
From: Ed Maier (evmaier@dhc.net>
Feeling kinda vacant since Nanci hasn't released any new stuff
in some time, I needed something new. Mary Black has been
mentioned here several times, so I thought I'd give her a try.
Wow. This lady is incredible. Two weeks ago I had none of her
albums; now I've got four. The track *The Dimming Of The Day*
from the album *Babes In The Wood* is possibly the most
beautiful song I've ever heard. There's something wonderful
about Mary's delivery of a song, but I'll be darned if I can
figure out what it is. Maybe it's her voice, sounding sometimes
like Sara Brightman; sometimes like Julie London. Anyhow, she's
in my list of favorite artists.
Eddie
http://www.dhc.net/~evmaier/
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Subject: Re: NN: Mary Black
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 14:49:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: MISTERCD@webtv.net (SID PORTER)
You are correct, Mary Black Is incredible! Do you have "Without
The Fanfare"? It is my favorite Mary Black album, especially the
songs,"Ellis Island" & "As I Leave Behind Neidin". There is also a
descent version of "Going Gone". (It ain"t Nanci, but it ain"t bad)
If you like the song, "Dimming Of The Day", you might be interested
in the version by the Neville Bros., on their latest, "Valence Street".
It is a lot different, but very interesting. BTW it is a Richard
Thompson song, you know.
Regards,
Sid Porter
"My music is my life; Nanci is my music."
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Subject: Re: NN: Mary Black
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 19:25:44 EDT
From: Brimpls@aol.com
Dear Eddie,
Glad to hear you've discovered Mary Black, and "The Dimming of the Day" is
one of Richard Thompson's classics, wow...
Driving in the car today (that was our other thread, wasn't it?!), I was
listening to a local radio station which plays a Sunday morning show it calls
"Acoustic Sunrise." The cuts they play are almost all purely acoustic, though
some seem to have crossed the line, which is fine by me...good music is good,
no matter what the instrumentation. Anyway, they programmed the most amazing
Richard Thompson song in there: It's called "1952 Vincent Black Lightning."
Does anyone know it? I know a lot of RT's songs, but this one stopped me
cold.
There's a line in there when the guy first meets the girl...he describes her
as "red hair and black leather, my favorite color scheme"...I have to find
the album/CD with this song on it!
Remember when Nanci sang with Richard Thompson on one of those "Sessions"
shows on PBS? I think they make a wonderful pair and I'd love to hear them do
more together.
Oh, and for anyone who doesn't already have it, I highly recommend the
Richard Thompson tribute CD "Beat the Retreat," with all kinds of artists
singing sixteen of the best RT songs. Wish they'd included Nanci in
there...but on the CD are X, R.E.M. (who do an interesting version of "Wall
of Death"), Bonnie Raitt, Bob Mould, Syd Straw, Evan Dando, Los Lobos, June
Tabor, Graham Parker, Dinosaur Jr., David Byrne, Beausoleil, Shawn Colvin,
Loudon Wainwright III, Maddy Prior and Martin Carthy, and the Five Blind Boys
of Alabama (who do "Dimming of the Day").
Happy spring, all...
Sabrina in Mpls.
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Subject: Re: NN: Dimming of the Day
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 15:49:12 EDT
From: PRobin5478@aol.com
Dear List --
Other fine versions of Richard Thompson's Dimming of the Day are on Emmylou
Harris' box set (essential listening) and on Bonnie Raitt's live CD
Roadtested.
Thompson will be living off the royalties from this classic for a long, long
time.
Peter in SoCal
(Go Lakers!)
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Subject: Re: NN: 1952 Vincent Black Lightning
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 20:52:37 EDT
From: GPOConnor@aol.com
(( Driving in the car today (that was our other thread, wasn't it?!), I was
listening to a local radio station which plays a Sunday morning show it
calls "Acoustic Sunrise." The cuts they play are almost all purely acoustic,
though some seem to have crossed the line, which is fine by me...good music
is good, no matter what the instrumentation. Anyway, they programmed the most
amazing Richard Thompson song in there: It's called "1952 Vincent Black
Lightning." Does anyone know it? I know a lot of RT's songs, but this one
stopped me cold. >>
What a song that is, indeed. I just about fell out of my seat when I
first heard Richard Thompson play it at the Iron Horse a few years ago. Then
I went to see Greg Brown at a coffeehouse a few years later and I just about
fell out of my seat again when he covered it. Brown put an excellent version
of this song on his live album "The Live One" which, incidentally, has
several other songs to recommend it as well.
Jerry O'Connor
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Subject: NN: Rumour and Sigh
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 19:47:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: odddduck@deltanet.com (Bill Lukesh)
(( Richard Thompson song in there: It's called "1952 Vincent Black Lightning."
Does anyone know it? I know a lot of RT's songs, but this one stopped me
cold. >>
I'ts off 'Rumour and Sigh'. This uplifting disc is one of my favorite of all
RT's Make sure you read the lyrics to the songs on this one. ESP, if you
buy it just for '52 vincent'.
Here's some lyrical highlights:
The opening song 'read about love' is about a young man whose having his
first real sexual experience after dealing with smut.
"If I touch you here its supposed to feel nice,
That's what it said in 'Reader's Advice'''
"Break someone's heart" is happy little ditty about a violent criminal
getting out of jail and back to business.
"I feel so good i'm gonna "make somebody's day' tonight"
"Behind Grey walls" is about a man committing his girlfriend:
" Here the Keeper comes, punctures of a junkie in her arms
They strap her on the bed-70 volts through her head"
"Back lash love affair" is about a man's love for a dominatrix
"The cold knives cut and stab,
I live my life as someone's shish-kabob"
"Mother knows best" is his tribute to Margret Thatcher:
She screams: "so your baby's hungry
so baby's sick
don't make babies
that'll do the trick
Put a piece of barbed wire
in your little love nest
'cause mother knows best.
There is much more like "God loves a drunk" and "Psycho street" that you can
explore for yourself
Bill Lukesh
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Subject: NN: Rumour and Sigh
Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 05:38:15 -0400
From: Ian R (100451.1006@compuserve.com>
It's also on a Dick Gaughan album which is available in the UK and includes
Big Muddy, Freedom Come-all-ye, Banks O' Sicily and others.
Ian R
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Subject: NN: Child Abuse Radio Show
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 20:21:07 -0300
From: "Douglas Dick" (cddick@viaccess.net>
Hi, I could use a little help on an upcoming project and I know that all
of you are knowledgable music people, not only regarding Nanci's music
but on other artists well. I do a local radio show in St. Thomas,
Virgin Islands, and in a few weeks I will be doing a show featuring
guests from our local Child Abuse Task Force. We want to incorporate in
the program songs dealing with child abuse and related issues. I am
familiar with a few songs on the topic such as Luka by Suzanne Vega. If
any of you have any suggestions it would be greatly appreciatted
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Subject: NN: Re: Child Abuse Radio Show
Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 09:24:13 -0500
From: "Hank Van Slyke" (chevelle@pnx.com>
One of the most moving songs I've heard on that sad subject is by Todd
Snider, on his first CD, "Songs For The Daily Planet". The song is called
"You Think You Know Somebody" but man, you never do....
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Subject: Re: NN: Re: Child Abuse Radio Show
Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 14:59:06 GMT
From: jalvo@mbay.net (John Alvord)
>One of the most moving songs I've heard on that sad subject is by Todd
>Snider, on his first CD, "Songs For The Daily Planet". The song is called
>"You Think You Know Somebody" but man, you never do....
Catie Curtis... I think the title is "The Wolf is in the House"
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Subject: NN:Re:Child Abuse Radio Show
Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 14:57:02 GMT
From: "Kelly Miller" (weary40@hotmail.com>
Are you familiar with the Catie Curtis song-"The Wolf"? It's from her "Truth
>From Lies" cd.It's about the affects of adult domestic abuse on a child in
the home.Not sure if that's exactly what you're looking for,but thought I'd
mention it.
Kelly Miller
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Subject: Re: NN: Child Abuse Radio Show
Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 14:03:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kenn Lippert (lippert@fyi.net>
Nanci's last concert here in Pittsburgh was actually part of a benefit for
a couple of local organizations working to help out with this very
problem. The opener was Dar WIlliams, who after a few brief words on
childhood in general sang "When I Was a Boy" (title correct?).
Nanci's spoke out against abusive parents, and a particular form
of abuse; that is the instilling of hatred in our children. Whether it
is the Protestant/Catholic in Northern Ireland teaching his children to
hate the Catholic/Protestant across the street, or the member of the KKK
calling black people trash to his children in a Chicago cafeteria, these
people are teaching their children something they were not born with - the
capacity to hate other human beings simply because they are different.
"It's a Hard Life Wherever You Go" was never so poignant.
Last Friday here in Pittsburgh we had yet another reaping of the
bitter harvest our hatred has sown. Five people were killed and several
more wounded because they were, Asian, Indian, or Jewish. No more reason
than that. The "alleged" shooter (why do we have to say alleged when he
was unquestionably identified by several eye-witnesses and found with the
still smoking 357 magnum handgun on the seat of his car?), was active in
the "European Heritage Movement". I wonder under what hood his
father practiced his own version of child abuse.
"There are no bad babies born."
kenn "Handguns are for killing people. Period." lippert
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Subject: Re: NN: Child Abuse Radio Show
Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 15:01:52 -0400
From: Steve Robertson (stever@mindspring.com>
I had to do a little research to verify this song. Joan Baez is doing a
song on this subject in her current concert tour. Visiting Joan's
website reminded me that the song is called "Crack in the Mirror" by
Betty Elders. Here's a link to the lyrics:
http://baez.woz.org/gfd/CrackInTheMirror.html
Hidin' Out in the Georgia Pines-
Wishin' It Would Rain,
Steve Robertson
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Subject: Re: NN: Child Abuse Radio Show
Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 23:33:46 +0100
From: "Shipley, Graham" (gjs@le.ac.uk>
I have always been moved by 'What's the Matter Here?' by the 10,000
Maniacs, from the album 'In My Tribe'. (About domestic violence towards
children.)
Graham Shipley
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Subject: RE: NN: Child Abuse Radio Show
Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 20:12:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christina Myers (poetmuse@prodigy.net>
Well, Graham took my suggestion of the 10,000 Maniacs song,"What's the
Matter Here?"- if you're not familiar with it I can send over the lyrics-
really an excellent song.
There's also a song by the Cranberries about sexual childhood abuse called
"Fee Fi Fo".
I should be able to name more as this is an issue dear to my heart but right
now I'm brain-stumped. I can always suggest certain poems about the subject
as well.
Christina Myers
"Loving is a journey with water and with stars.."
Pablo Neruda
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Subject: NN: Steal This Movie!
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 23:47:41 CDT
From: bobmcbob@ashley.matchmaker.com
Excuse me if this is getting too afar field
from Miss G., but I have to chime in on this
movie. It's retched. Saw it at a film fest and
it rang about as true as that horrible '70s
movie on TV this week. But then again,I
was a toddler to second-grader in the '60s
and don't have a lot of patience for the
mythologizing of the era.
bob
Another aside. I read somewhere this week
that the address for this discussion group
(world.std.com) is one of the oldest of the
net. Any truth to that, techies?
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Subject: NN: TET 1968 Woodstock.edu (Aside)
Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 02:17:25 -0400
From: hickorywind@inos.com (Kenneth A. Steffel)
bobmcbob@ashley.matchmaker.com wrote,
> Another aside. I read somewhere this week
> that the address for this discussion group
> (world.std.com) is one of the oldest of the net.
The Oldest I do believe.
I am no tecchie/ techy But it is true. In a sense that is, after ARPANET
had officially died, etc.
BITNET (1981)
In 1983 ARPANET split into ARPANET and MILNET; the latter became integrated
with the Defense Data Network created the previous year. 68 of the 113
existing nodes went to MILNET
Usernet's and also came along etc.
In 1989 UCLA sponsors the Act One symposium to celebrate ARPANET's 20th
anniversary and its decommissioning (August)
In 1990
ARPANET ceases to exist
Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) is founded by Mitch Kapor
Archie released by Peter Deutsch, Alan Emtage, and Bill Heelan at McGill
Hytelnet released by Peter Scott (Univ of Saskatchewan)
The World comes on-line (world.std.com), becoming the first commercial
provider of Internet dial-up access
ISO Development Environment (ISODE) developed to provide an approach for
OSI migration for the DoD. ISODE software allows OSI application to operate
over TCP/IP (:gck:)
CA*net formed by 10 regional networks as national Canadian backbone with
direct connection to NSFNET (:ec1:)
The first remotely operated machine to be hooked up to the Internet, the
Internet Toaster by John Romkey, (controlled via SNMP) makes its debut at
Interop.
Cheerfully Pilfered; Source remains unnamed
Ciao Rustico Peace!
P.S. seeing as how the NN seems to be an open forum for POLITICAL opinions
to some small degree. I note that INS agents only carried Automatic
Weapons, I never heard any reports of them being Used, in the retrevial,
perhaps rescue of Elian Gonzalez
Subject: NN: Daddy Said
Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 16:16:51 +0200
From: jolynda.bowers@cp.Novartis.com
I first saw Nanci on a Lonesome Pine Special back in the mid-80's and the
song that hooked me was "Daddy Said" - I had to run out the very next day &
buy OIAVBM. For what was referred to in an earlier post as a
little-mentioned song, it seems to be one that captured a number of fans!
It's still one of my favorites.
Jolynda Bowers
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Subject: NN: Just a little innocent buzz-making here. ( long time lurker )
Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 12:14:57 PDT
From: "R B"
I just wanted to let all my fellow Nanci fans out there to check out Stacey
Earle ( she has a website staceyearle.com ) As a long time NG fan ( and one
night bodyguard at her concert in Reno NV a few years back ... just gotta
rub it in one more time don'cha'know) I am completly smitten with Stacey (
Steve Earle's lil sister ) after seeing her 2x in the last year. Not that
she is a NG clone but the heart is in the same place, the songs are great
and so is her show. I just got her new 2nd CD from her web site and can't
stop playing it. Okay that's enough, I ain't getting paid here or
anything....
Richard ( back to lurking now....)
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Subject: NN: Merlefest?
Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 17:18:30 EDT
From: Rocalittl@aol.com
Hi everybody,
Just wondering if any folks on the list made it to this past weekend's
Merlefest and could tell us about Nanci's show on Friday night. Would love to
hear a concert report, including the obligatory fashion review!
Thanks Kenn for your insightful commentary on the terrible tragedy of the
shootings here in Pittsburgh last week. The city is in mourning for the
senseless violent acts of one crazed gunman and the devasation of the
victim's families.
~Lisa
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Subject: NN: A couple comments on popularity
Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 17:21:57 -0600
From: "Mark D. Gardner" (markdgardner@mindspring.com>
Matthew Bloomfield writes:
> Perhaps some 'Merikans would like to comment on that, it certainly
> gave the impression that on your side of the pond the writing is
> appreciated more than the performing, a statement that would seem to
> perhaps contradict a lot of what is written, on this list at least.
Most of the artists that we discuss on this list write and perform their own
songs (there are exceptions of course, and fine ones, e.g. Linda and
Emmylou.) However, most of "our" artists don't sell a lot of records by
industry standards. I can't stand to listen to commercial radio much, so the
following is just my impression. On "alternative rock" stations, performance
doesn't matter much and songwriting even less. Country-ish (it ain't really
country) music is better written, played, and sung, but I can't tell one
from another. I think this music is better written because they use
professional songwriters more.
Shawn Kimbro estimates:
> that about 2 in 10 people on the street would recognize Nanci's name if
> asked. (More in Texas, less in New York.) That might even be a bit
> optimistic.
Shawn, I think it is optimistic. I wish it were 2 in 10, but it seems more
like 2 in 100. I'm always surprised if I meet someone who's heard of Nanci
Griffith. And delighted!
Mark Gardner
Louisville, CO
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