NanciNet Digest 9-18-00
// Not much Nanci content, but some interesting stuff, anyway...
// Enjoy...[BP]
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Subject: NN: "Red Dirt Girl"
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 00 22:37:05 +0100
From: John Edward Graveling (kai21@dial.pipex.com>
Picked up my copy of Emmylou's "Red Dirt Girl" today and after one listen
I have to say, it is challenging and pushing at boundaries, quite which
boundaries I'm not too sure. There are three songs that have set the mind
racing and quickened the pulse, namely "Michelangelo", "Red Dirt Girl"
and "Bang The Drum Slowly". The rest is certainly going to take time to
seep into the conscience and it's not the sort of cd you stick in the
player as ear candy or background music. Still it's these challenging
listens that tend to stay with you longer and offer richer rewards. It
will be interesting to see how much of the work is featured in her live
shows, here in the UK. Also nice to note that Patty Griffin is coming
over as the support act.
I'm surprised nobody on the lists has mentioned Kevin Gordon's "Down To
The Well", as I know he has many admirers out there, particularly amongst
the Kate crowd (partly due to his co-writing with her). I think it's a
marvellous cd and features one of my favourite cuts of the year, the
rockin' "Marina Takes Her Aim".
John "heading for the weekend" Graveling
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Subject: NN: Re: "Red Dirt Girl"
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 08:36:26 +0200
From: "Marius Molstad" (marius.molstad@c2i.net>
I also picked up "Red Dirt Girl" the day before yesterday and I was going to
write some words, but basically you wrote the exact same things I was going to
write. It's the same three songs that caught my ear too plus "My Antonia".
Emmylou has put out a brave album that really needs time to understand, even
the lyrics are more complicated this time. I never would have thought that she
was going to create an album with so much Lanois inspiration (still Lanois is
not involved). When Emmylou tours with Spyboy they will never manage (or try)
to recreate the atmosphere live, but I really hope they put some of these songs
into the setlist. I'm going to
see her in November when she visits Norway and now I'm looking even more
forward to it.
I might add that I bought this album along with Steve Young and Andy Griggs
albums on a few hours trip to another city in Norway, do I have to add the road
home was a pleasant one with these albums cranked in the car stereo!?!
Marius "No red dirt boy" Molstad
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Subject: Re: NN: Re: "Red Dirt Girl"
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 07:48:28 -0500
From: Ed Maier (evmaier@dhc.net>
John Graveling wrote:
> >Picked up my copy of Emmylou's "Red Dirt Girl" today and after one listen
> >I have to say, it is challenging and pushing at boundaries, quite which
> >boundaries I'm not too sure. There are three songs that have set the mind
> >racing and quickened the pulse, namely "Michelangelo", "Red Dirt Girl"
> >and "Bang The Drum Slowly". The rest is certainly going to take time to
> >seep into the conscience and it's not the sort of cd you stick in the
> >player as ear candy or background music. Still it's these challenging
> >listens that tend to stay with you longer and offer richer rewards.
(snip>
and Marius Molstad wrote:
>
> I also picked up "Red Dirt Girl" the day before yesterday and I was going
> to write some words, but basically you wrote the exact same things I was
> going to write. It's the same three songs that caught my ear too plus
> "My Antonia". Emmylou has put out a brave album that really needs time
> to understand, even the lyrics are more complicated this time. I never
> would have thought that she was going to create an album with so much
> Lanois inspiration (still Lanois is not involved).
>
(snip>
Agreed. The whole album seems to have a Daniel Lanois sound, but with
far less percussion than Wrecking Ball. The album, however, was produced
by Malcom Burn. He and Lanois were musicians on some of Bob Dylan's
albums, but I couldn't find any other associations. Possibly the
Lanoiesque feeling is Emmylou's idea.
Bang The Drum Slowly was written about Emmylou's father, a heavily
decorated marine pilot during Nam. He died in 1993, and the lyrics
are essentially all the things Emmylou wanted to talk to her father
about, but never had the chance. At the end of the song Emmylou hums
*Taps* softly, and it will put a tear on your cheek.
*The Boy From Tupilo* is another song with several references to a
buffalo, that makes me think that Emmylou might also be a fan of
Kate Campbell (Tupalo Is Too Far, Like A Buffalo). I'm not surprised
by this at all.
This album is not folk or country as we know it. The record company is
Nonesuch, and they have it classified as pop rock, but that doesn't
make any sense to me, either. Whatever it is, I love it. Emmylou tells
Billboard magazine that she "didn't want to bring the same old
casserole to the potluck dinner this time." Whatever they want to
classify it as, I'm still enjoying the feast.
Had gum surgery yesterday morning and didn't sleep too well last
night. I'm headed back to bed. More later.
Ed Maier
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Subject: NN: Re: "Red Dirt Girl"
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 19:58:32 +0200
From: "Marius Molstad" (marius.molstad@c2i.net>
Ed,
Thanks for the background on some of the songs. Especially "Bang the drum
slowly" are given a new depth when I know what lies behind the words. All in
all this album seems to include some of Emmylou's greatest and most personal
songs ever. After more listening I think this album is better than "Wrecking
ball". Even if there's a lot of experimental elements to this album it seems
like the songs include all the essential fundaments that most of Emmylou's
material are built upon. Songs like "Red dirt girl" could actually been a Nash
Ramblers song when given the right instrumentation. I know I'll spend a lot of
time listening to this album throughout this
autumn!
Marius
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Subject: NN: Festivals Acadiens (no Nanci content)
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 14:34:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: Reid Mitchell (reidmitchell@yahoo.com>
Dearly beloved,
You missed it this year but I urge all of you to
consider attending the Festivals Acadiens in
Lafayette, La. when it comes around September 2001. A
wonderful spread of food, music, and other good stuff.
I think this year's highlight performances were by a
band organized in tribute to a local musician/doctor
which seeks to set up a chair in local music at the
University of South Louisiana in his honor--with Sonny
Landreith on slide guitar and other great musicians,
it was joined this festival by Michael Doucet, whom
you surely all know from Beausoleil. Of course, next
week here in Louisiana we have the Sugar Cane Festival
in New Iberia, and the weekend after the Catfish
Festival in Melville, and the week after the Cattle
Festival in Abbeville, and the week after the Gumbo
Cook-off and then the Yam festival is just around the
corner.... it's a busy autumn here in south Louisiana.
Reid Mitchell
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Subject: Re: NN: Festivals Acadiens (no Nanci content)
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 22:42:59 EDT
From: VickiStein@aol.com
reidmitchell@yahoo.com writes:
(( then the Yam festival >>
Woo-hoo! We luvvah yams up in this part of the continent. 'Specially
concocted with brown suggah, cinnamin, and buttah. I am a festival freak,
so there prob'ly ain't one that I wouldn't check out! But Yams, they have
that homemade appeal...
By the way, for you midwesterners, the Renfairre in Holly, Michigan, is
quite fun, and going on for one more weekend! Tarry forth!
Anyweigh, Reid, thanks for the insight! And if I were a couch potatoe, I
would beware the Yam Fest!
Vik
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Subject: Re: NN: Festivals Acadiens (no Nanci content)
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 23:50:01 EDT
From: DavidVige@aol.com
VickiStein@aol.com writes:
> (( then the Yam festival >>
>
> Woo-hoo! We luvvah yams up in this part of the continent. 'Specially
> concocted with brown suggah, cinnamin, and buttah. I am a festival freak,
> so there prob'ly ain't one that I wouldn't check out! But Yams, they have
> that homemade appeal...
Hey Vik, uou Yam-lover, you ...
FYI, the Yambilee (as the Yam festival is known) takes place in Opelousas, LA
(the Yam Capitol of the world .. har-har!); they'll be pickin this years Yam
Queen, and she'll be riding in the Yam Parade. Doesn't that just make you
weak?!! LOL!
I should know these things .. I'm an Opelousas native now livin' in the
Midwest (Chicago 'burbs) ...
May I suggest trying 1/2 a baked yam in your next bowl of gumgo ... yum-YUM!!
:))
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Subject: NN: DixChix opener?!?
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 19:11:12 -0500 (CDT)
From: PhotoTwang@webtv.net (Richard Hill)
While reading through a blurb in yesterday's paper announcing the
upcoming concert by the Dixie Chicks at our local huge arena, Assembly
Hall, on October 26th, I was astounded to read a comment by the arenas
director.
When asked who would open the show, Assembly Hall Director Kevin
Ullestad said "Ricky Scaggs, Willie Nelson or Nanci Griffith have
rotated in opening for the trio on recent gigs. It's likey we'll get one
of those three. We don't know yet."
I'm guessing that Mr. Ullestad had no clue what he was talking about,
right? Or, did I miss something along the way? It's not so hard to
imagine Ricky or Willie, but I really can't imagine Nanci opening.
Richard Hill
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Subject: Re: NN: DixChix opener?!?
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 21:23:52 EDT
From: Petop@aol.com
PhotoTwang@webtv.net writes:
(( It's not so hard to
imagine Ricky or Willie, but I really can't imagine Nanci opening. >>
I find it impossible to imagine either Willie or Nanci opening for the Dixie
Chicks.
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Subject: Re: NN: DixChix opener?!?
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 21:26:47 -0500 (CDT)
From: PhotoTwang@webtv.net (Richard Hill)
Petop said:
>I find it impossible to imagine either Willie or
>Nanci opening for the Dixie Chicks.
Well, yeah Petop, you got a point there. I can't imagine Willie doing
that, either. However, strange things do occur, i.e. Willie is on TV
right now (FarmAid2000), and none other than Tipper Gore herself is
banging away on the congas tonight in Willie's band :-)
Full moon?
Richard
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Subject: Re: NN: DixChix opener?!?
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 22:54:04 EDT
From: VickiStein@aol.com
PhotoTwang@webtv.net writes:
(( and none other than Tipper Gore herself is
banging away on the congas tonight in Willie's band :-)
Full moon? >>
We are waning right now, full moon was a few nights back, but I love the
thought of Tipper and Willie together. I love the thought of Tipper as drum
leader in a wiccan circle during a full moon. I like Tipper, though,
regardless of ritualistic philosphy. "Mammas' don't let yer babies grow up
to be cowgirls...they'll never be doctors and lawyers and such..."
Time for me to munch on some tofu, oh, say about the size of a half circle.
Peace.
Vicki
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Subject: Re: NN: DixChix opener?!?
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 00:17:37 EDT
From: "Tracy Applebaum" (poohbear512@hotmail.com>
Richard Hill wrote:
>I'm guessing that Mr. Ullestad had no clue what he was talking about,
>right? Or, did I miss something along the way? It's not so hard to
>imagine Ricky or Willie, but I really can't imagine Nanci opening.
OK I may well be the only one who thinks this but when has that ever stopped
me from expressing an opinion?! I don't find it that hard to imagine Nanci
opening for the Dixie Chicks at all. Sure they have different specific
musical styles, sure the Chicks have a quite different sound form nanci's
recent symphony stuff, but when you think about it, the Loretta-Lynn-esque
phenomenon of a female singer/singers writing their own songs, playing their
own guitar and other instruments, getting out there, having a good time on
stage, giving their fans a great show...don't Nanci and teh Chicks both fit
that descroption? As well as Loretta and some of the other heroes in music
Nanci has mentioned?
Frankyl I think the Buddy Holly/Crickets amterial differs far more form
Nanci's style than the Dixie Chicks' stuff. So does "No Expectations" from
the Stone Country CD.
As always, this is just IMHO, arguments welcome. :-)
Tracy
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Subject: Me: NN: DixChix opener?!?
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 09:20:53 +0200
From: "Marius Molstad" (marius.molstad@c2i.net>
The problem is that the Dixie Chicks should have been opening up for Willie and
Nanci, not the other way around! I know they got huge success in the States,
but doesn't decades in music count over two albums anymore?
I have nothing against the Dixie Chicks, but they're still newcomers in my
eyes.
Marius Molstad
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Subject: Re: NN: DixChix opener?!?
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 09:28:36 EDT
From: Petop@aol.com
poohbear512@hotmail.com writes:
(( I don't find it that hard to imagine Nanci
opening for the Dixie Chicks at all. Sure they have different specific
musical styles, sure the Chicks have a quite different sound form nanci's
recent symphony stuff, but when you think about it, the Loretta-Lynn-esque
phenomenon of a female singer/singers writing their own songs, playing their
own guitar and other instruments, getting out there, having a good time on
stage, giving their fans a great show...don't Nanci and teh Chicks both fit
that descroption? >>
It has nothing to do with compatability and everying to do with stature.
Nanci is at a level right now that she is simply not going to be an "opening
act" on anybody's tour unless it is someone else of a legendary stature. As
much as I like (or used to like) the Dixie Chicks, I don't rank them at that
"legendary" level.
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Subject: Re: NN: DixChix opener?!?
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 09:30:55 EDT
From: Petop@aol.com
marius.molstad@c2i.net writes:
(( he problem is that the Dixie Chicks should have been opening up for Willie
and Nanci, not the other way around! I know they got huge success in the
States, but doesn't decades in music count over two albums anymore? >>
Actually, the Dixie Chicks have recorded five albums.
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Subject: Re: NN: DixChix opener?!?
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 10:16:55 EDT
From: Annavedo@aol.com
Petop@aol.com writes:
(( Actually, the Dixie Chicks have recorded five albums. >>
Oh, well then!!! Marius, do you stand corrected? FIVE ALBUMS! No wonder
they have folks like Willie Nelson opening for them! (for my international
friends, this is sarcasm!) Shoot, the Dixie Chicks are darn near legends
themselves, I guess.
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Subject: Re: NN: DixChix opener?!?
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 08:22:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: Reid Mitchell (reidmitchell@yahoo.com>
There is one Nanci-Dixie Chicks connection this
tour--Lee Satterfield's husband John is playing lead
guitar in their backup band.
Reid "toady to the stars" Mitchell
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Subject: Re: NN: DixChix opener?!?
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:00:36 EDT
From: Catelaw@aol.com
Weird or not, Willie is one of the opening acts for the Chicks on their
current mega-tour.
Willie's also running for president -- Paul English is his running mate.
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Subject: Re: NN: DixChix opener?!?
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 07:12:41 +0800
From: "Bob McConnochie" (rsm@ppp.com.hk>
Get's my vote, except I can't....
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Subject: RE: NN: DixChix opener?!?
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 13:01:18 -0400
From: "Panchyshyn,Roman" (panchysr@oclc.org>
Who is Paul English? I figured Willie would choose Kinky Friedman for a
running mate.
Roman from Ohio
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Subject: Re: NN: DixChix opener?!?
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 19:41:35 +0200
From: "Marius Molstad" (marius.molstad@c2i.net>
Paul English is a long time member of Willie's road/studio band, playing drums
and percussion.
Marius
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Subject: Re: NN: DixChix opener?!?
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 18:28:18 -0300
From: "Douglas Dick"
Willie did an album called "Me and Paul" and the Paul is Paul English.
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Subject: RE: NN: DixChix opener?!?
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 14:31:31 -0400
From: "Panchyshyn,Roman" (panchysr@oclc.org>
Thank you all for answering my question. And Willie better be careful, if he
ever gets elected his income tax return will be open to public scrutiny.
Roman
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Subject: Re: NN:DixChix opener?!?
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 21:30:15 EDT
From: Halesbop@aol.com
Patty Griffin has opened some dates on the Dixie Chicks tour. Perhaps this is
where the confusion comes from.
Steve
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Subject: Re: NN:DixChix opener?!?
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 21:53:07 EDT
From: Petop@aol.com
Ricky Skaggs played with the Dixie Chicks tonight in Greenville, S.C ., but
there is no mention of another opening act on future dates.
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Subject: NN: DixChicks opener
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:24:58 EDT
From: "Tracy Applebaum" (poohbear512@hotmail.com>
Isn't this stature thing only as much of an issue as Nanci's ego would make
it? That is, yeah I know the headline act makes a lot more momey etc. etc.
but if as far as Nanci is concerned it's a chance for her to play mor good
music, expose more people to her stuff, adn expose some of her fan base to
the Dixie Chicks, whose music Nanci presumably thinks highly of or she
wouldn't be opening for them. Sure we can all sit around and say, Nanci's
so much better than they are, etc. etc. (and in a lot of waye we're right)
but I still do't think it's that ridiculous for her top be opening
with/peforming at the same venue at the Chicks.
Tracy, bracing for the flaming I know is to come
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Subject: Re: NN: DixChicks opener
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:51:36 EDT
From: Annavedo@aol.com
Nah, no flaming today Trace...
We're all just little protective of Miss Nanci and think that she's the main
event, you know?
Anne - staunchly wearing those rose-colored glasses.
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Subject: Re: NN: DixChicks opener
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 15:10:24 -0400
From: darrell (r-tome@home.com>
Tracy,
I agree. I admit I don't know the politics of "who's on top" and how
that would determine who could open for who, but I immediately thought
Nanci was just promoting someone she likes as she has done many times.
That isn't saying that this did happen but I think it could have. I have
added a couple of artist to my listening list because of her. Of course
Nanci still reigns supreme!
Darrell, willing to take the burn with you
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Subject: Re: NN: DixChicks opener
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 17:13:43 -0400
From: "Donate von Bredow-Gardner" (dvbgardner@genelogic.com>
darrell wrote: (((( I admit I don't know the politics of "who's on top" and
how that would determine who could open for who, ...........>>>>>>
Okay, okay, so we've discussed this a lot today. If it was up to me, it would
work out like this:
My teenager band opens for me.
Then I open for Shawn Kimbro (with Bocelli perhaps?).
Then Shawn opens for Stacey Earle.
Then Stacey opens for Dixie Chicks.
Then Dixie Chicks open for Indigo Girls.
Then Indigo Girls open for Nanci......
...... and then we all do one glorious finale together!!!! (Me between Emily
and Amy perhaps....). Ah sigh!
(Note you're the only non-chick in this lineup, Shawn......).
Donate "ready to open a bottle of wine by now...." von Bredow-Gardner
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Subject: NN: Bluebird webcasts including Jeff Finlin
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 14:06:18 -0400
From: Steve Robertson (stever@mindspring.com>
on 9/9/00 3:56 PM, John Edward Graveling at kai21@dial.pipex.com wrote:
> Also keep an eye and ear out
> for Jeff Finlin. He's an incredible songwriter and provided support on
> the tour. He even got encores, a rarity for support acts here. His cd
> "Original Fin" is simply an outstanding piece of work. Copies are
> available from Miles Of Music.
>
Jeff Finlin performed at the Bluebird last Friday, and the performance was
webcast live. The performance is also archived at:
http://www.liveonthenet.com/
Search for "Bluebird Finlin" or just "Bluebird" to browse all 92
performances archived there.
Unfortunately, I've had no success in persuading the webcast to play on my
Mac. I'm curious to see whether anyone has better luck.
>From the Georgia Pines,
Steve Robertson
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Subject: Re: NN: opening acts
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 19:17:05 EDT
From: PRobin5478@aol.com
All this talk about various opening acts for the Dixie Chicks has gotten me
thinking about opening acts I've seen. And how sometimes the opening act
should be the headliner and vice versa.
For example, I saw Ry Cooder and John Lee Hooker, in duet, open for Robert
Cray, when it should've been just the opposite.
Also, I saw Graham Parker and the Rumour open for Thin Lizzy. Didn't even
stay for Thin Lizzy. Graham was so volcanic, he left a huge hole in the
stage: no one could follow that band when it was on.
I also saw Poco open for the Faces -- and while Rod and the Faces were a
great band (every third song, because they were so drunk), they could barely
follow Poco which was a fantastic live band in its early Richie Furay days.
Anybody else out there have "opening act" stories?
Peter in SoCal
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Subject: NN: Re: opening acts
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 18:44:41 -0500
From: "Devin Bramblett" (bramblett@jcn1.com>
I had heard Willie was opening for the DCs, but what was really a nice news
tip was when I read Patty Griffin was to be the opening act for a lot of the
Dixie Chick shows ... I can't remember where I read that at, but it wasn't
online anywhere (what I read wasn't anyway).
For what it is worth,
Devin
"She will hope for anything, given an opportunity."
~Rosanne Cash~
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Subject: NN: Re:opening acts (no Nanci content)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 10:17:51 -0400
From: Tony Cox (tonycox@pacific.net.au>
PRobin5478@aol.com wrote:
> Anybody else out there have "opening act" stories?
Yeah - good one!
I saw Blondie in 1976 (when they were full of creative punky energy) open for
Television! Who? you might well ask - well, they were a sort of bad version of
Talking Heads, and their one album 'of note', Marquee Moon, was laughably
included in a lot of all-time top 10 great album lists of influential magazines
around that time, thus making it IMO one of the 3 most over-rated albums of all
time.
And now you're no doubt dying to know what my other 2 are... OK, you've forced
it out of me: Gram Parsons 'Grievous Angel' (although I adore the Byrds) and
Marvin Gaye's 'What's Going On', which I recently bought for a second time on
the strength of it's reputation (in case I missed something first time around),
and yup, it still sounds like a self-indulgent cliched soundtrack to a
'Blacksploitation' movie to me!
But that's a whole other topic... apologies for straying.
Tony, currently infected with Olympic fever.
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