// Announcements, Nanci stories, newbies...even the first lines
// of a parody!
// So the Ken Burns Jazz documentary has ended...now he has to 
// do folk music!
// Enjoy... [BP] 

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Subject: NN: NANCIGRIFFITH.COM LAUNCHED
   Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 16:27:48 -0600
   From: Gold Mountain Entertainment (gmenash@bellsouth.net>

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
January 24, 2001

NANCIGRIFFITH.COM LAUNCHED

Nashville, TN - Elektra Records recording artist Nanci Griffith has
launched her new, official internet web site,
http://www.nancigriffith.com.

The site features an up to the minute news and information section, a
comprehensive touring information page, an exclusive photo gallery,
streaming song clips, printable song lyrics, links to artist and fan
pages, as well as information on the charitable organizations that Ms.
Griffith supports.

An online store offering albums, videos, songbooks and tour merchandise
is currently under construction, and will be added to the site soon.

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Subject: NN: Country Stations
   Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 09:01:40 EST
   From: RoanInish@aol.com

(( It seems the established Country Radio stations won't play the soundtrack
to the movie "Oh Brother, Where Art Thou" even though it is one of the top
selling albums in the country." >>

Sad, but hardly surprising.  "Country" radio doesn't really exist anymore and 
the big acts like Shania Twain and Faith Hill are pop acts that toss in just 
a touch of "twang" and call themselves "country."  Maybe the sales success of 
the soundtrack will snap the industry out of its complacency and show it that 
there IS a market for this music.

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Subject: Re: NN: Country Stations
   Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 16:17:33 EST
   From: Petop@aol.com

RoanInish@aol.com writes:

(( Sad, but hardly surprising.  "Country" radio doesn't really exist anymore 
and 
 the big acts like Shania Twain and Faith Hill are pop acts that toss in just 
 a touch of "twang" and call themselves "country."  >>

    This is also the reason we have seen the rise of the so-called 
"Americana" stations, although Gavin has given up on this format as a viable 
one. While there are no folk music stations in the Dallas-Fort Worth area we 
do have an Americana station where O Brother is in a light rotation. 
    But for all those who dismay the album doesn't get played on country 
radio, it was the No. 1 most played album on folk radio for the month of 
December. The January reports should be compiled by the end of the week and 
my perusal of the various playlists that come my way suggest it will rank 
very high for this month as well.
    And, if you're interested, "I'll Fly Away" is the most played track, with 
twice as many reported airings and the No. 2 most played track from the 
album, "Didn't Leave Nobody But the Baby."


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Subject: NN: discovering nanci stories
   Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 23:44:51 EST
   From: HHHoliday@aol.com

hi folks,
like another "holly" who posted recently, i also discovered nanci by watching 
Austin City Limits-- not a show i watched very often at the time, but nanci 
changed all that!  it must've been 1984 or 85, and she was singing with some 
of the Blue Moon orchestra and a wierd lookin' dude named lyle lovett.  
didn't those two sound great together?  i ran right out and bought all the 
albums (and by that i mean vinyl LP's!) i could find, of both of theirs, and 
became a diehard fan instantly.  this was about the time that Once in a very 
Blue Moon had come out, and i think lyle only had his eponymously titled 
first album out.  i've been wild about them both ever since... oh, and wild 
about that TV show, too.  they have introduced me to some of my most dearly 
loved artists.  if i ever get to Austin...
holly hessinger

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Subject: NN: CBC Radio broadcast-Campaign for a Landmine Free World concert
   Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 10:03:32 -0500
   From: "MVM" (mvmartel@home.com>

Hi all.

I just got home from the Ann Arbor Folk Festival and a side trip to see Dar
Williams. While spending some of those 15+ hours in the car, I was listening
to Canada's national broadcaster, CBC Radio (even though I was in the
USofA), and heard that DNTO was going to broadcast a 1 hour concert of the
Landmine Free World Concert from December at Massey Hall in Toronto. They
chose to play Nanci and James' Gulf Coast Highway as the advert for the
show, which was to air Saturday afternoon. Since I was miles away at the
time, I didn't get to hear it. So why am I posting this late message, you
ask? Well, because it's going to be rebroadcast July 7 on Global Village.
Here's the link to the main page: http://radio.cbc.ca/specials/landmines/
There are short bios for the performers, links to "The Issues" with facts,
and "Canada's Involvement" which profiles Lloyd Axworthy, our former
Minister of Foreign Affairs, and links to VVAF and Bobby Muller's Toronto
speech, and you can hear Bruce Cockburn's intro and song from there. I was
hoping I could find an archive of the program, but so far I've been
unsuccessful, only a note on the DNTO site saying that dubs aren't available
due to licensing. My guess is that the show isn't archived. For July 7, you
could listen via the internet, following the link above.

The AAFF was good, if only for Eddie From Ohio! They drove 9 hours to play 4
songs, but have 2 upcoming shows at the Ark in March. We drove 7 hours
through blowing snow (passing a total of 21 stranded cars on the way) but we
figure it was worth it. Dave Carter and Tracey Grammer were also great, as
was David Wilcox. Peter Yarrow, of Peter, Paul & Mary fame, sang a song
called "Don't Laugh At Me" which was discovered at Kerrville this year. PP&M
have been using that song to perform at schools to teach kids about bullying
and hopefully decrease violence. They're hoping to reach 10,000 US schools
this year. The site isn't complete, but it's started at www.dontlaugh.org

Sunday, Dar was fabulous! She performed solo, with Jian Ghomeshi from Moxy
Fruvous backing her up on 3 or 4 songs on "big empty water jug-turned-drum".
He opened with about 5 songs (gojian.com) and then Dar played for about an
hour and a half. She covered most of Green Day, and many of her signature
pieces. She looked relaxed and was funny and talkative and put on a super
show. They had played Saturday night in Ottawa, and last night was in
Peterborough, Ontario, with even more blowing snow for my driving
entertainment.

I'm staying put today, listening to my new CDs!

Cheers,
Vicki

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Subject: NN: O Brother -- What Will They Play?
   Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:48:43 EST
   From: Catelaw@aol.com

Hey y'all,

Referring to the Vicki Martel's question about the confounding of "country" 
radio by the sales figures of the O Brother soundtrack -- what in the heck 
are they going to play?

To be sure, if I wasn't so recalcitrant about deadlines not enforced by 
monetary or other penalties, O Bro would have been at the top of my list for 
2000.  I've seen the movie twice, will probably see it again and have burned 
a hole through the CD.  Gordon and I were anticipating its release since 
Alison Krauss and Dan Tyminski discussed it at their concert in Athens, 
Georgia last year.  We actually tried to go to the first matinee showing here 
the day it opened and were shocked when we couldn't get in.  We bought 
tickets for the second show, had a leisurely dinner and returned to the 
theatre with a good 10 minutes to spare, only to have to sit on the second 
row because there were no other seats.  The second viewing was in Tampa with 
friends, neither of which are remotely interested in this kind of music, but 
of whom were both enthralled.  The packed house roared with laughter, sang 
with some of the songs and actually stood and cheered at the end.  Again, I 
was shocked and amazed.

While the notably enticing sirens have been duly acclaimed, I've heard little 
mention of George Clooney's contributions.  I'm not quite sure where I was 
while "ER" and whatever else this remarkable and unnaturally handsome actor 
has done was going on, but hey!  Clooney's performance in this flick 
represents the first break in my active mourning for Clark Gable since I 
learned, as a child, that Gable had long since expired.  A brilliant casting 
move by those wily Coens, IMO.  It also explained Dan Tyminski's remark at 
the Athens show regarding the effect on his wife of hearing Dan's voice 
coming out of George's body...  Last minor aside -- in Tampa, my friend 
leaned over and whispered in my ear (during the "Man of Constant Sorrow" 
recording scene), "Ya think that's him [Clooney] singing?"  "Nah," I replied, 
without further explanation, no point.

But back to the original question.  Yes, this is one butt-kicking CD and I've 
no doubt, based on the above, that it is selling like the proverbial 
hotcakes.  There are many wondrous cuts that have been well-reviewed in this 
forum, so I won't be redundant there, although I do agree with Shawn about 
the scene and character from which Ralph Stanley's spine-tingling, a cappella 
rendition of "O Death" emanated.

Which of these cuts, though, is going to keep your garden-variety radio 
listener from hitting the button when it comes on, especially if they haven't 
seen the movie?  One problem is that many of them are overtly spiritual, 
increasingly anathema to the broad market.  "Down to the River to Pray" with 
Alison and the church choir is beautiful and lifts me to the sky, but is the 
crowd that really wanted to hear those selected to play at Super Bowl 
halftime last night over Ray Charles going to stick around for that?  Doubt 
it.  Same for "I'll Fly Away," one of my very favorite gospel songs of all 
time.  The Fairfield Four are a marvel and their rendition of "Lonesome 
Valley" is as lonesome as an moonless eastern Oregon road at midnight, but 
suffers similar problems.  (BTW, these gents were on the Opry Saturday night, 
just stellar.)  You Are My Sunshine?  Get real. Hard Time Killin' Floor 
Blues?  You can just as easily watch "COPS."  "In the Highways" by those 
adorable little Peasall girls?  The first time I heard it (on Christmas Day, 
from the kitchen) even I thought it was Alvin and the Chipmunks.  "Didn't 
Leave Nobody But the Baby?"  Maybe a better chance, but the marketing would 
have to be dramatic and just right and tied to those "sireens."  So on that 
note, the only other cut I can come up with is that MIGHT make it is the 
first cut of "I Am a Man of Constant Sorrow" and it's still an uphill climb 
and one that must be tied to an impressive marketing vehicle, including the 
video of Clooney, et al. to provide a "hook" to overcome the less-than-upbeat 
lyrics.  Which is probably just too much work, although I devoutly hope to be 
proven wrong. 

As an outlier among outliers, it disturbs me as much as anyone that people 
don't appreciate what I think is true, good, beautiful and enduring, but I've 
gotten over it.  O Bro represents all of that and the sales spike presents an 
interesting conundrum for radio programmers. However, I'm sure they'll manage 
to dismiss it somehow, absent an outcry from the masses.  And sadly, the 
masses don't exactly include most of us on this list.  

As Nanci sings so eloquently, "If wishes were changes, we'd all live in roses 
and there wouldn't be children who cry in their sleep." In Cateland, Lyle 
Lovett would have provided the pre-Superbowl entertainment and wouldn't have 
been wearing aluminum foil.  Nanci, Kate Campbell and Emmylou would have sung 
the National Anthem  and joined Lyle, Vince Bell, Guy Clark, and Slaid 
Cleaves for the halftime.  Townes Van Zandt would have smiled down on it all. 
 And 90% of the viewing audience that hadn't already turned it off would have 
promptly done so.

Cate, in Atlanta

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Subject: NN: Re: O Brother -- What Will They Play?
   Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 18:41:01 -0500
   From: "Shawn Kimbro" (kimbroj@charter.net>

Great commentary, Cate.  I've never been a George Clooney fan either, until
now.  I actually thought him pretty one dimensional in previous projects.  I
think my favorite scene is near the end when the Soggy Bottom Boys are at
the political rally, and Clooney's character has, after all his efforts,
finally reached his wife and is desperately trying to talk her into a
reunion.  Just at the crux of the conversation the band breaks into the
intro to "Man of Constant Sorrow."  Clooney's "oh-well-the-show-must-go-on"
facial expression is priceless.

On the airplay issue, the bluegrass version of "Man of Constant Sorrow" is
getting a tad bit of radio on the pop country stations around here. (I
actually like the blues version better, drop-d tune and capo up to F, same
trick the Allman Brothers used.) The whole disc is on heavy rotation on all
the folk & bluegrass stations.  WDVX played it in entirety today at noon.
I have plenty of opinions about the pop country thing, and they're the same
as nearly everyone else so I'll just nod my head and say, "uh huhh."

  .---. ___________
  |===|////SEE/////\                   All my best,
  |  ////ROCK////[]\     Shawn "we thought you wuz a toad" Kimbro
  | ////CITY////|__|\
  |  ^|^^^^^^^^^^|  |            The Mountain Soul Band
  |   |          |  |          http://mountainsoul.cjb.net
  |__ |___[X]____|__|        http://www.mp3.com/mountainsoul
        Fiddle Fiction:  http://www.geocities.com/trailzzone/hog.html

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Subject: NN: *@%^$%* Country Stations
   Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 23:59:23 -0500
   From: "Mike Baker" (dancingmike@erols.com>

I abandoned those stations when country banished the "and Western" from 
Nashville. I thought it interesting that they booted the cowboys but 
kept their clothes. Country stations are playlisted just like the top 
40's stations. If they can't put somebody in a box, they don't play them 
(ie, my comments on Eva Cassidy). But let's get serious folks, when's 
the first time you heard old-timey music on one of those stations, and a 
bluegrass song from anyone but Alison Krauss? Come to think of it, they 
play her music only when it's not really serious bluegrass, don't they?

In the DC/Baltimore area thank goodness for WAMU's great bluegrass 
programming and WRNR's wide range of alternative programming. Why, we 
even get to hear Lyle Lovett, Nanci Griffith and Eva Cassidy on the 
radio on WRNR. I hope most of you can find such good programming in your 
areas.

Mike Baker
dancingmike@erols.com

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Subject: NN: Trouble in the Elevator
   Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 00:06:04 -0500 (EST)
   From: VickiStein@aol.com

Hi to all!

A review of recent posts has me chuckling over a public "experience" within 
the last few weeks.  I was at a benefit in my fair city, hanging out with the 
who has it alls and the who wants it alls, (I'm just a "who has a big mouth" 
part of the equation), and we were sipping on box wine and licking our lips 
after every mini-bite of pate', and the Muzak in the background was "Trouble 
in the Fields."  In a revealing and uncharacteristic (ha!  I am such a 
rogue!) moment, I blurted out, with crackers flying between my teeth, "that's 
Nanci Griffith!  I've never heard Nanci Griffith on Muzak!"  

To which this (not so) kind woman says, "Is that that Irish singin' gal?  We 
really don't like the Irish 'round here."  

Go figure.  Provinciality at its worst, in 2001.  

Taking the position of Shaft, I "shut my mouff."  

Vicki (Glad to be a SuperBowl supportin' political reformin' lovin' American) 
Stein

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Subject: Re: NN: Blasted Country Stations
   Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:18:39 -0500
   From: Steve Robertson (stever@mindspring.com>

on 1/28/01 11:59 PM, Mike Baker wrote:

> But let's get serious folks, when's 
> the first time you heard old-timey music on one of those stations, and a 
> bluegrass song from anyone but Alison Krauss? Come to think of it, they 
> play her music only when it's not really serious bluegrass, don't they?

We probably will never convince the pop country stations to convert to
Americana stations, but it would be a major victory if the Top 40 on country
radio started showing strong roots influences. So it's important to give
them a little credit and encouragement when they deserve it.

On the bluegrass front, country radio not only plays Alison Krauss, but also
Nickel Creek. And don't forget that the Dixie Chicks were originally a
bluegrass band, and they have returned the banjo, Dobro, and fiddle to
respectable positions in the country band.

The one commercial broadcaster that really deserves a lot of credit is CMT.
They have consistently played a lot of music videos from Americana artists-
including Nanci, MCC, Alison Krauss, Nickel Creek, Kevin Welch, Charlie and
Bruce Robison, Kelly Willis, Jack Ingram, and others. The "Man of Constant
Sorrow" music video (which contains all the best scenes from the movie) is a
"Hot Shot" video- in heavy rotation. CMT also gave Billy Block's Western
Beat a shot- although the televised parts of that show are a little too
heavy on the Alt. Country grunge bands for my taste.

>From the Georgia Pines,
Steve Robertson

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Subject: NN: How is Nanci Doing?
   Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:59:44 -0600
   From: "Steve Jobe" (sajobe@gte.net>

I am a newcomer to the NanciNet, and appreciate the opportunity to be
involved.  I have been an ardent NanciFan for many years.

I passed through Nashville yesterday on my way to Kentucky, and remembered
hearing somewhere that Nanci now lives in Franklin.  Is that true?

Another question - why is it that Nanci only rarely comes to Texas in
concert?  I live in the Dallas area, and constantly am on watch for a date
close enough to go.  It just seems like she avoids Texas.

Finally - how is Nanci doing these days?  I read somewhere that she had
dealt with cancer.  Is she healthy?  Is she working on any projects right
now?

My favorite CD is the "Dustbowl Symphony" project.  I listen whenever I
need "therapy".  And, Nanci, if you read these posts, thanks for sharing
your talents with us.  You have greatly enriched our lives.

--Steve Jobe

Steve A. Jobe, P.E.
Petroleum Engineer
Dallas, TX
sajobe@gte.net

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Subject: Re: NN: How is Nanci Doing?
   Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 19:21:47 EST
   From: Poetmuse@aol.com

Welcome aboard Steve... 
I'm sure you'll come to love this place as much as the rest of us! :) 
Just stay away from Lippert... he's crazy!! :) (heh just kidding, Kenn)

As for Nanci- she has a brand new album coming out in a few months, so you 
joined at the right time! You haven't lived until you've read 1000 posts on 
the same 13 songs... :) 

And the last time I saw Nanci was in Austin, so I know she's been there at 
least once in the last few years! Hopefully, with the new album she'll touch 
down there once again....

take care

Christina "Kenn really is a super guy" Myers

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Subject: Re: NN: How is Nanci Doing?
   Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 20:42:12 -0600
   From: "Steve Jobe" (sajobe@gte.net>

Christina,

Thank you very much for the reply and info concerning Nanci's new album in
progress.

You know, it drives me nuts that she has so much talent and gets so little
recognition!  I look forward to having all those involved in this network
to share with - it is great to know there are many others who have been
blessed by her work.

And, I will be on guard for Lippert :)   

Thanks again!

--Steve

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Subject: Re: NN: How is Nanci Doing?
   Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 22:21:04 -0500
   From: kenn lippert (lippert@nauticom.net>

>And, I will be on guard for Lippert :)  

WHATDIDIDO???

Shameful, shameful.  The way you NN'rs treat people.

"Nicest Bunch of Folks on the Net" my butt!

Speaking of my butt, the last Woolworth's in these parts has been 
closed for several years now, but the building was still there. And 
over each of the double doors were big plastic signs (meant to have 
lights inside them) that announced  in a wonderful old 50's script 
"Woolworth's  Visit out Luncheonette".  For years i have been trying 
to get up the guts to just go down there in the middle of the night 
and take one (the other is all broken).  Well i didn't have the guts 
or butt, and now the building has been demolished and they are gone. 
Somehow i doubt the  the new Home Despot will have the same ambiance.

kenn "going up"* lippert


*Even if the civility of the NN is going down.   ;)
-- 

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Subject: Re: NN: How is Nanci Doing?
   Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 19:55:17 -0800 (PST)
   From: Reid Mitchell (reidmitchell@yahoo.com>

--- kenn lippert (lippert@nauticom.net> wrote:.
> Somehow i doubt the  the new Home Despot will have
> the same ambiance.
 
    Rita was in High School
    And her mama cried cause she worked with tools
    She made the Home Depot shine....

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Subject: Re: NN: How is Nanci Doing?
   Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 23:20:44 EST
   From: Poetmuse@aol.com

reidmitchell@yahoo.com writes:

(( Rita was in High School
     And her mama cried cause she worked with tools
     She made the Home Depot shine....
  >>


oooh... I feeel a parody coming on!! anyone want to take off where the 
honorable Mr. Mitchell left off?? Where's John Hodges when you need him? 

-Christina

// NOOOOOO!!! Don't throw me in that briar patch!!! [BP]

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Subject: NN: Help with Mike Williams question
   Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 10:07:17 -0800
   From: "Riley Jackson" (riley@rileyjackson.com>

Dear List,

I am looking for information about Mike Williams and his B. F. Deal Records,
specifically his Radio Show album.  Any help is appreciated.  Please reply
to me and not your list.  I am looking for a clean copy as mine is in
storage far away and I would like to hear Weaving is the Property of Few
these Days.  Thank you.

Light and Love to you and yours,  Riley

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Subject: NN: vital new information!
   Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 23:15:03 -0500
   From: kenn lippert (lippert@nauticom.net>

Attention!  I am  pleased to announce the start of a new contest.

Large River Music (Kate Campbell's publishing company) will be giving 
away one Kate Campbell CD each month to a lucky visitor to her web 
pages (http://www.KateCampbell.com).

Details are available at the site.

Good luck and bring your RC.

To my friends on the NanciNet (both of you) that may not be aware of 
Kate Campbell, sorry for the intrusion, but you owe it to yourself to 
check this woman out.  She has a pretty full concert schedule in the 
spring with many southern, and south-eastern dates - don't miss the 
chance to hear and meet her.

kenn "you know who you are" lippert

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