NanciNet Digest 8-07-01

// Boy, you folks are keeping your editor busy...keep it up!
// Enjoy!  [BP

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Subject: NN: Benefit Concert at the Birchmere 
From: MFDennis@aol.com
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 08:49:03 EDT 

Now, here's an all-star line-up.  I'm sorely tempted to use my "tax-
refund" to buy a ticket, but I suspect there are very few available to the 
public....

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Benefit Concert for Campaign for a Landmine Free World!

VVAF's Landmine Campaign
Saving Limbs, Saving Lives
A Program of Vietnam Veterans of America Foundation

PROUDLY PRESENTS:

Emmylou Harris
Bruce Cockburn
Steve Earle
Nanci Griffith
John Prine

Other Grammy Award winning artists to be announced --due to the artists'
contractual obligations we will announce the additional talent on 
September 1st.
To see a list of our singer/songwriters in support of Campaign for a 
Landmine Free World, please visit:
 
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 15:29:45 -0700 (PDT) 

I found this website which has a little more
information.

http://www.military.com/Content/MoreContent1/?file=vn_chapelle


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Subject: NN: Eudora Welty's Wake 
From: Anna McCalman (carwheels_2000@yahoo.com> 
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 15:15:54 -0700 (PDT) 

Hello folks,

Thought I'd pass this info along:  in the August 6th
issue of Newsweek---the only magazine we get here in
the office(CPA firm---help!) besides Forbes or
Accountants 'R Us ;) ---there's an article in the back
on the late Eudora Welty.  The last sentence reads:
'Nothing has changed, and yet everything has changed,
because Eudora Welty has cast the wide net of her
talent over the world and drawn its treasure up before
our eyes.'

How beautiful is that?! *sigh*

Also there's an article on Patty Loveless & her new
album.

I wanted to also include a message that was sent to my
sister from a friend who attended Ms. Welty's wake. 
My sister attended the Mississippi University for
Women (MUW) in Columbus, MS (where Welty attended for
a year or so before going up North) and was a huge fan
of her work, being a writer herself.  The University
is steeped in Southern tradition and many of the
alumnae keep in close touch.  Her description is very
touching and I thought you'd appreciate it.

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From: "Lynne" 
Subject: Eudora Welty's wake 

I went to the Old Capitol at 3:00... 

Eudora Welty's casket was in the center of the foyer
in the very center of the Capitol building. It was
draped with a creme colored cloth with a purple cross
on it. A recent portrait of her in a green dress was
displayed beside the casket. Family was there in a
room adjacent to the foyer. Many people came to pay
respects today. There was a long line before I got
there, according to Julie Hussey, who I ran into as I
was walking up to the Capitol. The line had diminished
a great deal when we went in. 

I saw people in dresses and suits, as well as casual.
I watched two women bring in their daughters, a total
of eight little girls, maybe. Each set of sisters had
on matching dresses and hats. I saw workmen with their
names embroidered on their shirts come to pay
respects. Two young black men in t-shirts and shorts
came in, too. While I was there, about 45 minutes,
Richard Howarth, the owner of Square Books in Oxford
(MS), and one of his brothers were there, and I saw
authors Elizabeth Spencer and Ellen Douglas come in. I
am sure there were other notables there, as well. Many
faces I saw looked really familiar, but unfortunately
I could not place them. Possibly some had MUW ties,
but I was not sure and felt it would be inappropriate
to ask. 

It struck me from all the different types of people I
saw that Miss Welty touched people from all walks of
life, regardless of sex, age and race. There were
several TV stations there, and photographers,
professional and amateur, were everywhere. The mood
was somber and very quiet, but not gloomy or teary. 
You could tell that most of the people there had held
much respect for her, not just in her death... as if
she truly did affect everyone who read her books, or
just had the opportunity to meet her. 

I hope this helps those of you who couldn't
attend but wanted some idea of how it was. 

Lynne 
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Well, that's it from me---have a great day everybody.

AnnaMac


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Subject: Re: NN: Eudora Welty's Wake 
From: kenn lippert (lippert@nauticom.net> 
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 06:50:13 -0400 

> ---there's an article in the back
> on the late Eudora Welty.  The last sentence reads:
> 'Nothing has changed, and yet everything has changed,
> because Eudora Welty has cast the wide net of her
> >talent over the world and drawn its treasure up before
> >our eyes.'

The closing line of the chorus to Kate Campbell's "Wrought Iron Fences" is:
          "Everything changes, but nothing does."

As the Boston Globe reviewer said speaking of Kate Campbell's music:
"If Eudora Welty wrote songs, they would probably sound like this"

So what's the verdict, should i buy "Clock Without Hands" or not ?  I 
would hate to not like it, write a scathing review, and then gets 
nuked to glass by all of the YAMENFs.
 
kenn "you know who you are" lippert
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Subject: NN: Re: Re: Clock Without Hands 
From: "Toby" (taskren1@home.com> 
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 18:47:08 -0700 

No hidden track but there is a data file that makes it easy for you to 
find her webpage. A pest if you ask me. It's a popup when you put the disk 
in the computer.

Toby

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Subject: NN: CWH 
From: "Kenneth Johns" (KJohns2001@msn.com> 
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 16:34:22 -0400 

Hi all.  I will start by saying a huge 'thank you' to Amazon.com who I
pre-ordered CWH from, and who got it here by mail on the day of release.  
Next, my views on the album itself.
I think it shows Nanci's flexibility when it comes to music, and a
willingness on her part to take risks to get the music she feels strongly
about to our ears.  Personally, I will take shallow lyrics, tortured word
strings and even really stretching it rhymes, rather than do without a new
Nanci album. 

All in all, I have to rate the album as really good, as opposed to 
Fantastic, from a stictly musical standpoint.  But it does get a fantastic 
when it comes to message.  Overall...8 on a scale of 1 to 10. 

Now if only we can get someone to make that back page of the lyric booklet
available as computer wallpaper!!!!! 

Finally, I will comment on the land mine issue.  Mines have been used 
Since the American Civil War, and even some of the ones used back then 
still exist, and can still go off.  This was commented on in a History 
Channel show on the Civil War the other day.  They are cheap to make in 
huge numbers and really effective in keeping people from going where you 
do not want them to go, unless they spend lots of time and effort to clear 
a path.  This is why they have been used, and will continue to be used, in 
every conflict that comes down the pike.  But, they stick around after the 
war and kill and maim innocent people.  This is part of the terrible 
tragedy of war.  How to end it? Some would say by signing a treaty banning 
mines.  Others say that would not work.  I think the facts speak for 
themselves.

The US did not sign the land mine treaty for several GOOD reasons.  One,
cause the US is probably the only country in the world that would feel 
bound by such a treaty and would even attempt to abide by it.  Two, we 
just don't have the manpower to forgo use of such an effective weapon.  
Three, we are addressing the issue of landmine safety on our own by 
developing mines that self destruct after a set time period, or that can 
be detonated on command after the conflict is over, thus preventing the 
problem of left over mines from occurring in the first place. 

America gets blamed and badmouthed so much these days, but the truth is, 
We are the ONLY country that does not just pay lip service to the issues 
of conservation and civilian safety during and after wars, but actually 
DOES something about these issues.   What does it say about people that 
they want only to hear the worst and never the best about our country?  

I applaud Nanci and everyone else who joins in the effort to remove left 
over mines, but do wish that America would get a much deserved bit of 
credit for bankrolling the effort.

Wishing everyone the best,
DJ


// I shouldn't have to say this, but please address dissenting
// opinions to the author, not to the list...[BP]

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Subject: NN: More on Dickey Chapelle 
From: John Houser (jchouser@yahoo.com> 
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 16:47:54 -0700 (PDT) 

For those interested, there is a book on DC called:
 
     "Fire In The Wind: The Life of Dickey Chapelle"
 
Amazon has a better price than B&N, so I'll give y'all that link:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1557504199/qid=996795111/sr=1-1/ref=s
c_b_1/107-8116166-7641311
 
Sorry, Yahoo is going to force a break in that URL, I suspect, so a little
cutting and pasting may be in order...

Did a Google search on DC and didn't find much
information. One link has already been listed, but
this was an interesting write-up at:

http://lists.village.virginia.edu/sixties/HTML_docs/Texts/ANR/VG_ANR_4&1_2_B
.html
 
Copying liberally from that text (skipping over the reference to the book
above):
 
"The reason this book isn't a memoir is that the
subject stepped on a mine in Viet Nam, or someone near
her stepped on one, or she was nearby when someone
command-detonated one, or maybe it went off by mistake
in the back of a truck--the release doesn't specify.
It does say that Chapelle was the only woman
correspondent to die in that war (unlikely; maybe the
only credentialed Western one to actually die
violently in-country) and that she also covered the
fighting at Iwo Jima, Europe just after the Allied
Occupation, 1956 in Hungary, the rise of Fidel, and
more fighting in Korea, Lebanon, and Laos. She was
jailed in Budapest for smuggling medicine. She liked
jumping out of airplanes. She was a pilot. She wore
fatigues, a bush hat, big glasses, and pearl earrings
o all these places..."
 
She had a rather fascinating history...

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Subject: NN: So Much Music, So Little Time 
From: Steve Robertson (stever@mindspring.com> 
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 09:35:39 -0400 

Heard another great group at Eddie's Attic in Atlanta last night- the 
Burns Sisters Band. Before last night, I had never heard a single note of 
their music (that I know of) but I could tell from their publicity that I 
would like them. They can do it all- a capella gospel, folk songs with 
heavenly harmonies, Steve Earle songs that sound better than Steve's 
version, a lot of alt. country type songs, and a few traditional country 
tunes. Their Southern tour is moving on to Morganton, NC, Johnson City, TN 
(at the Down Home Pickin' Parlor- that should be a wild show) and 
Lexington, VA. if you are anywhere near there, don't miss 'em:
           http://www.burnssisters.com/
-- 
>From the Georgia Pines,
Steve Robertson

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_________Fiddlin' Around____________
The Journal of American Roots Music
          on the web at
      http://www.starchart.com/
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Subject: NN: Kate Campbell in FL this month 
From: Kim Diorio (kinno@netzero.com> 
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 10:21:06 -0500 

Upcoming concert appearances:

Sat. 8/11  --  Long's Bookstore Cafe -- Orlando; 407-422-6934

Sun. 8/12  --  First Baptist Church -- Orlando; 407-425-2555

Thur. 8/16  --  European St. Cafe Listening Room -- Jacksonville (at the 
San Marco location); a wonderful, intimate place to hear live music on 
Thursday nights.  Have seen Alejandro Escovedo, Irene Kelley, David 
LaMotte, Pierce Pettis, Christine Kane, Chuck Prophet, Beaver Nelson, Beth 
Wood, Fred Eaglesmith,  and others.  The phone number to call for 
reservations (Hacking Cat Productions) is 904-399-1740.  Get there at 
least 30 minutes early for a good table!

Kim
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Subject: 
From: "Ed Robirds" (ed@dreamseaartworks.com> 
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 00:22:30 -0400  

Hi. 

In creating my NG 'fan-site' I thought it would help the design for some
areas to add some sort of creature that could help represent the essence 
of Nanci Griffith. For some reason she reminds me of a butterfly in nature 
and spirit, but being a new fan of hers (and an even newer member of this 
forum) I was hoping to get some helpful advice from someone who knows her 
much better (for now).

Any ideas? 

Ed 
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Subject: NN: Nanci as an animal 
From: lippert@pgh.nauticom.net 
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 13:15:21 -0400 (EDT) 

On Fri, 3 Aug 2001, Ed Robirds wrote:

>In creating my NG 'fan-site' I thought it would help the design for some
>areas to add some sort of creature that could help represent the essence
>of Nanci Griffith. 
> For some reason she reminds me of a butterfly in nature and spirit...
> Any ideas? 

Of course James Hooker made an analogy in the video of "Other Voices,
Other Rooms" when he mentioned that Nanci "Has the ears of a BAT", and
then hastily added, "and the face of an angel." 

I dunno, i'm kinda partial to the gnu myself.

kenn "If you were a tree, what kind would you be?" lippert


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Subject: NN: fansite suggestions 
From: taroepke@ucdavis.edu 
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 14:23:34 -0700 (PDT) 

Ed,

I would add that she's more like a songbird outside your window chirping
away in the morning...most of the time its beautiful and you want her to
stay and bless the morning...and occasionally you wish you hadn't traded
your bb gun for that worthless pogo stick as a ten year old.

ODF    
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Subject: Re: NN: CWH (or ask and ye shall receive) 
From: Poetmuse@aol.com 
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 19:57:40 EDT 

KJohns2001@msn.com writes:

(( Now if only we can get someone to make that back page of the lyric 
   booklet available as computer wallpaper!!!!!  >>

Well, you should of asked for a million dollars. heh. I've gone ahead and 
scanned the pic and it came out pretty good, actually. If anyone is 
interested I can send it to them (not for public use, obviously, I like 
Nanci but don't want to go to jail for her) in any picture format and size 
they want. 

-Christina
bored and alone on a Friday night
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Subject: Re: NN: Clock Without Hands 
From: NanciNetter@aol.com 
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 01:20:40 EDT 

John Stewart had a hit in the late 70s with the single Gold ("people out 
there turn the music into gold, into gold ... "), and if my memory serves 
me correctly, Lost Her In The Sun is on the same album (Bombs Away Dream 
Babies).  Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks of Fleetwood Mac fame both 
make appearances on the BADB album, Lindsey playing FWM-esque guitar and 
Stevie lending her vocals on "Gold" and "Midnight Wind" .. being a Stevie 
fan as much as a Nanci fan, this is a really cool album to own as it 
brings the circle full round, so to speak, now that Nanci has covered 
LHITS!

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Subject: Re: Re: NN: Clock Without Hands 
From: RoanInish@aol.com 
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 09:22:04 EDT 

(( ...if my memory serves me correctly, Lost Her In The Sun is on the 
    album (Bombs Away Dream Babies).  >>

+Yes.  BADB produced three top 40 singles in 1979/1980 - "Gold" (#5) 
"Midnight Wind" (#28) and "Lost Her In The Sun" (#34).  So I guess we can 
now say that Nanci has recorded a top 40 hit single!  :-)

// And "From a Distance" was NOT a top 40 hit? [BP]
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Subject: NN: Re: John Stewart  
From: Mike Chesman (chesman@preferred.com> 
Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 10:32:38 -0400 

> Finally, Nanci has covered a few John Stewart songs.  I think I'd like
> to hear more of his stuff, any recommendations?
>

I have several John Stewart CDs and have found each to be very good (am
really fond of the CD "Punch The Big Guy")... BUT the one CD every Nanci 
fan should have is the "Airdream Believer" CD.   

Why?

Because it includes John's versions of Lost Her In The Sun, Armstrong, and
The Ghost Inside Of Me...  PLUS!  Nanci sings backup on Daydream Believer
and leads in the chorus of a most wonderful song, Shadows of the Angels
Wings, (I'm surprised she didn't cover this one1)

Mike (with CWH in constant play) Chesman
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Subject: NN: oops I did it again... 
From: Poetmuse@aol.com 
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 21:25:03 EDT 

Not to cause a stir by mentioning his non-folk name, but T Bone and Sam 
Phillips released an album same day as Nanci's and it's a fine fine thing 
as well. I've been playing it in between Clock Without Hands respites. 
It's called Fan Dance and so far, I'm really enjoying it. :)

Christina 

now playing: Time*Sex*Love/ Mary Chapin Carpenter
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Subject: Re: NN: oops I did it again... 
From: Reid Mitchell (reidmitchell@yahoo.com> 
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 21:57:04 -0700 (PDT) 

--- Poetmuse@aol.com wrote:
> Not to cause a stir by mentioning his non-folk name,
> but T Bone and Sam Phillips released an album same day 
> as Nanci's and it's a fine fine thing ...
> called "Fan Dance" and so far, I'm really enjoying it.

"Bikinis and Martinis" is one of the best albums of the
last few years.  Is this one in the same league--or
close--or maybe two leagues down but still great?

(this is a coded apology to Christina)

Reid
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Subject: NN: CWH or 'My Trip to Vietnam' or... 
From: taroepke@ucdavis.edu 
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 18:52:35 -0700 (PDT) 

>>an album that ODF is mostly indifferent about

Aeight!

Before ya reach for the butane and flint... need I remind y'all that 
opinions are more a reflection of the opinionated and her/his perspective 
and not of the opinionatee... and my perspective - that of 30 y.o., son-
of-a-viet-vet-who-never-ever-wanted-to-discuss-it-at-all, reformed 
farmboy, "poofter", marine invertebrate reproductive toxicologist - got 
all that? - carries very little interest in, connection to or emotion 
about any sort of events predatin his existence and/or awareness (i.e. 
anythang pre-Laverne and Shirley) or nostalgia in reference to these 
events regardless of how meaningful it is/was to the precedin generation
(s), i.e. the one thang I think of in connection to JFK... is my, what a 
lovely pink Chanel suit Jackie O was wearing that day! 

I gots my copy in mail yesterday from amazon - along with LW's "Essence", 
which Ima feelin way too much about to discuss here - and listened to it 
about 5 times before I realized that I feel almost nuttin for this album. 
I, generally, judge an album not by the technical aspects - songwritin, 
singin, recordin, arrangin (all of which I could discuss now but won't - 
 though the engineer who recorded some of the vocal tracks needs to be in 
an unemployment line) - but by how much it makes me feel whatever that may 
be. This may explain my fascination with the Spice Girls, Missy 
'Misdemeanor' Elliot and a certain nameless death/goth rocker - they make 
me feel something severely and completely whether its giddiness and 
sassiness to anger and disillusionment. Nanci in the past has made me feel 
immensely, uncontrollably at times - shinola from loneliness and longin 
to hope and love to sorrow and joy. This album has none of that for me. 
I'm listenin right now... I might as well be listenin to department 
store musak... all I have after listen #10 is a feeling of mild 
pleasantness, a lil bob to the neck and a heart with no strings tugged... 
except during three songs... PEV, a raucous ditty about a woman who kicked 
a little arse and looked elegant while doin' it (which is quite difficult 
to do, believe you me)... the oft reviled SOTS, a rawness that I relate to 
in my stwisted perspective with the imagery of cold SD snow (I fermented 
in NE) that settles and stays in your heart (its still there)... LSFM, I, 
though oft referred to as demon-spawn, too have a mother. 

Not that the rest of the songs aren't "purdy n good" or are excruciatin; 
the singular I just ain't gettin it. The sometimes folkie, sometimes 
Sister Dave Hootie Counting Traveler (the geetar riff on LHITS can be 
heard on most of the above albums), sometimes orchestral songs do, 
however, show the range with which Ms G is comfortable with and proficient 
in. It is as if she decided to take the themes from past albums - 
folkabilly from BRFTM, hardcore folk from OVORI&II, folk pop from Flyer, 
orchestral from DBS - and mish-mash into one CD. Ima gonna think of CWH as 
her best-of-styles album, her "My aren't I musically diverse" album. My 
major complaints are the repeated and detracting VW theme (war as art much 
in the same way as AIDS as art disturbs me on sooo many levels); the 
sequencing that doesn't allow for a mood to develop; the vocal recordings 
aren't smooth and the fact that the only tears shed yesterday was during 
my LW listening block (especially during 'I Envy the Wind' and 'Blue'). 
Maybe I need more starkness and grit to get me feelin these dayz as life 
continues to track in that direction. Come to think of it, and gettin 
back to the start of this contrivance, maybe, just maybe, my current POV 
is not right for this album. Ms G has done nuttin wrong... I'm the one 
with issues (it's (an homage to the editors here) always about me anyway).

There... now reach for those flamethrowers... but remember... as a 
true 'flamer', fire only adds to my brightness.

Peace and Luvin,
ODF

// I shouldn't have to say it...[BP]
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Subject: NN: New album 
From: Tony Bloomfield (tonyb@reading.u-net.com> 
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 10:36:58 +0100 

Killing time in the airport yesterday, waiting for friends whose flight 
was delayed, I went browsing in the Virgin record store. I went straight 
to the Country section to see how many copies of the new album were there 
(Nanci always counts as Country here in the UK; we have our own folk 
tradition into which only a few venerable Americans such as Woody Guthrie 
and Pete Seeger are allowed!).

None! Then I remembered what someone said earlier on this list, and 
checked the Pop & Rock section; there she was, just one copy, but it's a 
small store. It makes me wonder, who decides where to classify records? 
Is it the individual store, the record company, the artist?

I didn't buy it, having already acquired my copy a few days back. So what
do I think of it after a few plays? I think my opinion mirrors that of 
some others who've posted - pretty neutral. I guess when I think of it, no 
Nanci albums since Flyer have really done much for me; they're none of 
them bad, they just don't turn me on like the earlier stuff (or maybe I'm 
just becoming an old fart...)

Cotton I liked, also Shakin' Out The Snow. Someone criticised her voice
here; I thought it was one of the few times where it showed some of the 
old character.

I was also intrigued to see what she made of Wee Small Hours. Since seeing
Carly Simon on a TV program a couple of years ago, singing some old
standards, I've often wondered whether we'd see Nanci doing the same one
day. I think it wouldn't be a bad idea, you know, favourite voice doing
familiar songs. This one doesn't quite come off for me, but I still think
it's something I'd like to hear more. And if she'd just sashay around
wiggling her butt like Carly did... Sigh!

Cheers for now,
TonyB.

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Subject: NN: Thanks for the Snow 
From: "David Steere" (SteereD@sil.si.edu> 
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 08:30:43 -0400 

I just wanted to thank James, Christina and others for their thoughtful 
comments about SHAKING OUT THE SNOW.  Initially, I only read rather 
negative reviews of this song and thought myself a bit strange for my own 
reaction.  This song grabbed me from the first time I heard it.  I still 
find it the most moving (and goose-bump-inducing) song of them all on CWH.  
Nanci's unusual singing/speaking/growling on this song fits the 
subject/mood perfectly.  I can't get over how wonderful this song is.

david

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Subject: NN: Oryza Sativa 
From: hickorywind@inos.com (Steffel 
To: (nanci@world.std.com> 

NN'ers 
just reading the many good posts about all of the interesting thought's
those of you that have the new album, have seen, heard, thought about,
connected with and to, or made connections to other older NG songs.

As it has been a good long while now that Nanci has been going to
Indochina, campaigning for Landmine reclamation, (defusing-blowing in 
place) and landmine free world, the 'handmade Cambodians - Laoation 
scarve's' and the whole mindset, (commendable, understand) that she has 
been turning towards for what? Now the last  17 - 20 months. Close enough 
for an accurate time frame?

Anyway just reading your postings, and of just today, the cotton thread
(was Re: NN; Re: Clocks Without Hands) I believe.  

And then Traveling Through This Side Of You that was sung in concerts of
summer 2000. The thought struck me (again not having heard the new album)
that maybe it was a metaphor for brown rice, Vietnam was, and IS the Rice
Bowl of Asia, ( I still contend, part of what the war was really about)
many North Vietnamese made a long and tortured journey from the temperate
North to the tropical South of the country, to it's much hotter climates,
many of which (well okay some, well ok, more than some) had tattoos, that
said something along the lines of 'Born In The North - To Die In The
South'.

My Vietnamese, flat out SUXX these days so I wont even try to go there. 
But still, just reading the postings, the thought leaped out that perhaps 
it was symbology. Rice in the stead of Cotton.

There were many times theater and puppet troupes (as in Punch and Judy,
not as in Puppet Troops of the American Imperialist's) would entertain the
NVA as they journeyed South, and entertained the NVA as they rested (and
dodged Arc Lights) and one of the big theme's was the leaving of one's 
true love, as they "Sacrifice" for the Fatherland (Hey, there is an time 
honed universal theme) But in the Vietnamese culture, and also in 
revolutionary propaganda, only those that were killed, 'Sacrificed' Most 
of you probably haven't read too much of the poetry, and love letters the 
NVA soldiers wrote home to their loved ones. It is infused with nature, 
pathos, longing, heart sickness, the clouds and wind and rain... 
Bittersweet...

The Vietnamese also have a long cultural, and literary history of
'wandering ghost's looking after, and looking about, for other dearly
departed spirits.

I know, I know,  Question?
"What does The Second Indochina War have in common, with Alexander The
Great, or Cleopatra?"

Answer
"They are all Ancient History"

Hey what can I say it probably isn't there at all. Still the thought, as I
said, came to me and I thought. 'why not share them with the friendliest
people on the web'

The connection would be there for the "Dixie"


  Trai  qua  mot  cuoc  be  dau,
  Nhung  dieu  trong  Thay  ma  Dau  don  long.

  "These Vicissitudes we have experienced, cause our hearts to break"

  From 'The Tale of Kieu'   by  Nguyen  Du

Peace   late    ken

// Maybe it's just me, but I don't understand the subject line...[BP]
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Subject: NN: Re: Same Old Songs 
From: Chipsbear@aol.com 
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 11:44:19 EDT 

Christina Myers suggested that if I was tired of hearing the same old 
songs, I might want to skip this tour.  I totally agree with her.  I am 
going to skip this tour.  And you know what, it breaks my heart to do so.  
I am not some casual Nanci fan who has come out of lurkdom to trash her.  
Nanci has played a huge role in my life.  I hosted a folk radio show for 
10 years and every show for all of those years started and ended with 
Nanci songs.  At one point in my life I felt like it was my mission in 
life to turn the world on to her music.  I met her and hugged her and 
handed her a ten page letter outlining what her music had meant to me in 
my life.  Different songs for different breakups, etc.  I cringe a little 
when I think about it now, but that's where I was at then.  She touched a 
world in me that I only knew through her music.  I'm glad to say I have my 
own connection to my soul now, but that's not the point.  The point is I 
have been a Nanci Griffith fanatic for about 13 or 14 years.  If I am no 
longer interested in going to see her in concert, isn't something wrong?  
Shouldn't there be some thought for the long time fans who have every CD 
and know every word to every song?

Flame away if you must.  It feels great to get this out in the open and to 
post my thoughts after all these years.

Valerie in Vermont
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Subject: NN: Website without hands 
From: "KENDRICK 
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 10:07:12 -0700  

If you try to play "Clock Without Hands" on your computer, it starts up an
executable that points to the web site: 
http://webobjects.elektra.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/elektra/Home.woa/-/ArtistNa
vTemplate.wo?ID=249


It also displays a function to play the disk that does not work on my
machine, but the CD did play normally when I closed the app and fired up 
the regular CD Player application.  

I really like the CD, but the track "Shaking Out the Snow," mentioned by
several others, is by far my least favorite.  The rest, for me, varies 
from listenable to very good, by far the best of her recent efforts (but I 
won't be tossing out "Last of the True Believers" anytime soon).  Based on 
the disk, I am looking forward to her appearance later this month in 
Saratoga, CA.

Tom Kendrick
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Subject: Re: NN: Website without hands + quick thanks 
From: "Matt Bloomfield" (mailm@tthewb.u-net.com> 
Date: 6 Aug 2001 18:38:35 +0000 

> If you try to play "Clock Without Hands" on your computer, it starts up 
> an executable that points to the web site: 

Hmm, this wouldn't work on my machine anyway but I don't have any data
sections on my CD at all.  Unable to find the non-existent hidden
track I looked at the CD with some software I have and the whole disk
is audio.  There are no data tracks on it.  Are there different
versions for different countries?

 Matt
-- 
http://www.mattbloomfield.co.uk

Subject: RE: NN: Website without hands + quick thanks 
From: "Hans Janssen" (hjanssen@zeelandnet.nl> 
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 10:06:11 +0200 

>>There are no data tracks on it.  Are there different
>>versions for different countries?

I got this morning my copy of CWH from the US and there is a data section
on it called Nanci.exe and a autorun file, that didn't work but maybe the
already running cd-player got the CD first. I just used the explorer for
exploring the CD and the explorer showed only the two files mentioned and
not the *.cda files, which have something to do with the audio. Normally 
you can't see the *.wav files.

met vriendelijke groeten,

Hans Janssen.
http://listen.to/Tish
http://folktrade.da.ru
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Subject: NN: John Stewart - Thanks 
From: "Matt Bloomfield" (mailm@tthewb.u-net.com> 
Date: 6 Aug 2001 19:16:48 +0000 

Just a quick thanks to all who responded to my request for John
Stewart info, particularly Ron Beffa for his very informative post. 

I think I'll be going for Airdream Believer first off and maybe trying
some of the other stuff later.

Matt
-- 
http://www.mattbloomfield.co.uk

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Subject: NN: Nanci's songs in concerts 
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 15:27:35 -0500 
From: "Lisa Pogue" (lpogue@APWA.NET> 

Yes, I've heard Nanci sing many of the same songs each time I've seen
her, but often she changes the song each time she performs. She did
"Caroline" from OVOR at Wolftrap one year so completely different from
the album, yet so incredibly well I cried.

Subject: NN: Clock 
From: Rob Remig (rob.remig@inetmail.att.net> 
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 17:14:03 -0500 

After digging in the record bins at Borders in the Folk section and not 
finding that album I was looking for, I moved to Country & Western.  I 
found a couple of Nanci's other CDs there but not the new one.  So I moved 
on to the Texas Artists section and didn't find her there either.  I 
finally asked for assistance and was led to Pop/Rock, and there was Clock 
Without Hands and a whole bin of Nanci's other CDs.  Don't tell Nanci, but 
someone thinks she belongs in Pop/Rock now.

Rob in San Antonio  
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Subject: Re: NN: Clock 
From: Bob Juliano (rjuliano@cfl.rr.com> 
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 18:49:18 -0400 

Rob in San Antonio wrote:

>...Don't tell Nanci, but someone thinks she belongs in Pop/Rock now.
>
  Here in our local Borders, I was surprised to find "Clock"
sharing a big display rack with NSync.  I don't know what they're
thinking.

-- 
Bob Juliano
Oviedo, Florida
Rjuliano@cfl.rr.com
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Subject: Re: NN: Clock 
From: Poetmuse@aol.com 
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 19:37:20 EDT 

rob.remig@inetmail.att.net writes:

(( Don't tell Nanci, but someone thinks she belongs in Pop/Rock now. >>

Actually I've always found Nanci in the Pop/Rock section as *well* as the 
folk/country sections. I don't see what the big deal is, means more people 
might stumble onto our angel and feel compelled to buy. ;-)

-Christina
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Subject: NN: wallpaper 
From: "Hans Janssen" (hjanssen@zeelandnet.nl> 
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 09:41:40 +0200 

Hi all,

Just got CWH in the mai and I'm halfway now and no opinion yet.

Sometime ago someone ask for a wallpaper from the inside of the CD. I made
one. Mail me off list( hjanssen@zeelandnet.nl ) if you want one and give
the format BMP or JPG.

met vriendelijke groeten,

Hans Janssen.
http://listen.to/Tish
http://folktrade.da.ru
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