NanciNet Digest 8-25-01
// Concert report from California...and more
// ...Enjoy! [BP]
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Subject: NN: Nanci in Saratoga
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 11:47:04 EDT
From: Tricia9999@aol.com
What a wonderful evening! The Mountain Winery is such a beautiful place, one
of the most beautiful places I've ever been. (I can still picture vividly a
Cal Tjader show from years ago). Nanci was in a great mood, we had front row
seats in this very intimate venue. It was perfect. Jim, my husband(who plays
bass and guitar), could watch Chas. and Ron and even see the settings on the
amp.
We spied Nina Gerber before the show and I hoped that she would be invited to
play -- sure enough when it was time for Across the Great Divide she was
called upon. She stayed for a few numbers, left and came back up toward the
end for a few more.
Nanci cried a bit when introducing 'Where Would I Be'. I must admit I never
quite understood why her drummer thought that song was "all about your life."
She said that when she went through cancer and spent time getting well, her
fans were all there rooting for her and helping her to come back. I have such
empathy here having been through the exact same thing at about the same time.
She sang 4 songs from the new one: the title song, Where Would I Be, Pearl's
Eye View, Lost in The Sun. Oh yeah, and Traveling Through..., but she has
been including that for some time. Encore included Wall of Death and Wing and
A Wheel. I am sure the set list is the same as we have been hearing from
other shows, so I won't go into the whole thing.
We sat next to an adorable little 4-5 year old girl and Nanci enjoyed singing
to her throughout the show and gave her and another little girl a big hug at
the end of the show.
all in all a great evening,
Tricia
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Subject: NN: Music
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 23:20:11 -0400
From: kjohns2001usa@netscape.net
I wonder if Donate would consent to letting her fellow Nanci netters know
when she is going to be performing in public? And, maybe, she could let us
know if she has any CD's or Cassettes of her music out there we could look
for?
Best,
DJ
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Subject: Re: NN: Music
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 10:22:16 -0400
From: DvBGardner@genelogic.com
kjohns wrote: ((((I wonder if Donate would consent to letting her fellow
Nanci netters know when she is going to be performing in public? >>>>
DJ -- Very kind of you to ask. There are a number of much more
established and accomplished musicians on this list who you may want to
check out before you put any bets (or hopes) on my humble creative efforts
which, after all, are all done "on the side" while struggling through life
as a working mom. Now, if you live close to the Washington, D.C. area,
I'll be glad to share future events with you. As for "performing in
public", it clearly depends on which public you're talking about -- and
whether we're performing classical, folk, contemporary, spiritual music,
etc. Thus, I've been playing different music in different venues - by
myself, with a partner, or in various groups. We play anywhere from our
local church to homeless shelters to weddings, funerals (yes, I've written
music for funerals -- I know, it sounds morbid, but it's a great honor to
be asked to do this), youth gatherings, private parties, etc. etc.
While I've been a musician almost all of my life, I am still a bit shy
about public performances other than the unpaid or charitable ones. So,
unless and until MUSIKERIN (TM) -- my musical pseudonym -- becomes a big
hit overnight, I'm hesitant to advertise beyond my trusted circles.
I've been urged to publish and submit to our local radio station the most
recent piece of music I mentioned a couple of weeks ago. I am working on
that right now and I'm looking for the right musicians to perform and
record this particular piece. I want my music and lyrics to be heard,
not necessarily performing it myself -- I'm all for someone else
performing it :).
Depending on which band I play with at times, I sometimes also play in
bars, etc. (I'll do anything for free vodka :). You may remember not
too long ago, I was sending out some excited utterings to the nancinet
about a series of gigs our band "Earth Signs" was doing in the Washington,
D.C. area. I tried to entice y'all with the promise that we would do a
couple of Nanci covers along with our own originals and some other covers.
I received responses from some local nancinetters, but none of you showed
up!!!!!!! Resigned, we abandoned the band and are now concentrating on
recording.
((((((And, maybe, she could let us know if she has any CD's or Cassettes of
her music out there we could look for?>>>>>
Yep, I do have some home-made cassettes of a variety of my original music
and I'll be glad to share some with you, if you're really interested.
I'm currently working on getting my websites up (musikerin.com,
musikerin.net and musikerin.org -- each with a different mission in mind).
We will eventually post various works of fellow writers and musicians on
the .net and .org sites to share with like-minded or interested artists.
You may also find some of my music and poetry/essays on another website (
sonrisecafe.com) which is not quite up and running yet and only has some
test messages, etc. on it right now. That website, however, is strictly
spiritual and a forum for a network of artists, writers and musicians I
belong to. This group of people comes from all walks of life and
professions and is devoted to using their respective talents in service to
spiritual and/or charitable causes. If you're interested in that area,
check that website in a couple of months to see what it has to offer.
As for that long-awaited CD --- my good companion of the musical road,
nancinetter Gordon, had worked with me in the past to record our originals.
Unfortunately, he packed up his gear and left for Missouri before we could
finish up our CD. After much coaching, praying, chanting and performing
a variety of secret voodoo rituals, I have managed to get him to move back
into our area (he doesn't know it was me who did that, so sssssssh, don't
let him know!) We are definitely going to focus on completing recording
this year. Perhaps we'll have the CD finished by Christmas, Gordon?
Nudge, nudge, nudge......... :) Maybe with some pressure from other
nancinetters, he'll be inspired to expedite the process?
I'm, of course, always willing to send some of my originals to other
musicians who would be willing to perform them. How about it, Shawn?
Would Mountain Soul do some of my folksie stuff? I promise, it wouldn't
be in German. Anyway, D.J., depending on where you live, I'm sure there
are other nancinetters who probably have a lot more to offer than I do, but
-- for what it's worth -- if you're really interested, let me know and I'll
send you some cassettes, okay?
Well, enough about me, D.J. Let's talk about you -- are you interested
in my music? :)
Sorry for long post. Haven't had my coffee (or vodka) yet.
Donate "off to a long meeting now -- yawn!" v.B.-G
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Subject: NN: No Stevie slight intended
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 09:18:43 -0600
From: "Greg Hill" (gfhill@freshbaked.com>
David (and any other Stevie Nicks fans),I am actually a Stevie fan myself. I
only meant the "blasphemy" crack in the sense that many fans seem to take
offense when Nanci is mentioned in the same sentence with anyone else. The two
of them seem sort of like oil and water to me and I really can't picture them
on the same stage.
I'd sure pay to see it, though.
Did anyone see the latest Amazon email blurb? Here it is (sent with the title
"New Albums by Alison Krauss, Gillian Welch, and More"). I guess Nanci comes
under "and More". Anyway, "Clock Without Hands" was listed third with the
following review:
"Depending on your viewpoint, Nanci Griffith has:
a) aged gracefully and delivered a mature and strikingly honest new record of
original songs;
b) completely abandoned her Texas country-folk roots in favor of a more
glossy, middle-of-the-road sound; or
c) become an overly precious artist who's forgotten how effective her
pared-down style and direct vocal delivery was.
It seems each opinion has some validity to it, but there's no question that
Clock Without Hands is an incredibly personal and soul-baring effort."
>From my viewpoint, I'd vote for "a".
Greg
Now playing Alison Krauss and Union Station's "The Lucky One" since it
was a free download.
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Subject: Re: NN: No Stevie slight intended
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 09:15:31 -0600
From: Paul Larsen (Paul.Larsen@hsc.utah.edu>
>>> Greg Hill (gfhill@freshbaked.com> 08/22/01 09:18AM >>>
---snip---
Now playing Alison Krauss and Union Station's "The Lucky One" since it
was a free download.
---snip---
Greg -
I am not sure if you are familiar with Lucy Kaplansky, but if you are,
doesn't "The Lucky One" sound a lot like "One Good Reason"?
Paul
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Subject: Re: NN: Fine concert in Portland
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 09:48:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: ann osborn (acsosborn@yahoo.com>
--- "Musicant, Paul" (Paul.Musicant@CAX.USA.XEROX.COM>
wrote:
>
>
> Just a brief report of the fine Nanci concert at
> the Aladdin Theatre
Thanks, I was hoping someone would mention this
concert! I was so sorry to have missed it, but
couldn't get that far and back on a sunday
night...(was at the yakima jazz festival, and back to
san juans...)Sounds like a great evening.
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Subject: NN: Rick Salt and Nails (NNC)
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 09:25:39 EDT
From: Petop@aol.com
I recall when Joe Ely's live album came out a little over a year ago, there
was much talk about his rendition of "Rock Salt and Nails." I thought some
people might be interested that a wonderful version of this tune will appear
on the Buddy and Julie Miller album to be released next month.
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"I don't mind if you don't like my manners. I don't like them
myself. They're pretty bad. I grieve over them on long winter
evenings."
--Philip Marlowe (Humphrey Bogart) at his best in "The Big Sleep,"
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Subject: NN: Nanci, Dickey C and Vietnam
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 00:11:43 EDT
From: BMiller224@aol.com
Okay, I finally got a bit of musical inspiration to take up Reid Mitchell's
challenge about Nanci and Vietnam.
Most people probably assume because she's an outspoken liberal Democrat on
some issues that Nanci must be taking some sort of liberal antiwar stand in
her current Vietnam songs. I'm not sure the material itself gives reason to
think that.
Specifically, Dickey Chapelle maybe would "tell you war is hell."
But she doesn't really sound like a pacifist sort.
I checked out the online account of Dickey's life at Military.com by
Elizabeth Deakman. I don't know how accurate a picture she gives of DC.
Maybe someone who has looked into her biography a little more can amplify
the picture. This is the URL:
http://www.military.com/Content/MoreContent1/?file=vn_chapelle
According to Deakman's account, DC seemed to be sympathetic to the Algerian
guerillas fighting against French colonialism in the 1950s. But she was also,
again according to Deakman, very much anti-Castro. She claims that DC made
bombs with anti-Castro Cuban exiles in Florida, and once almost got blown up
by the US Coast Guard on a boat smuggling arms to Cuba - and apparently was
not there for the purpose of taking pictures!
Deakman gives this account of DC's political stance toward the Vietnam War:
(( Now involved in the Vietnam struggle, Chapelle could not restrain her
partisanship. Her lectures became more bombastic. Dressed in heels,
nylons and expensively tailored clothes, she might appear on stage
with a captured Viet Cong flag. She would throw it on the floor and stomp
on it as she warned complacent Americans of the Communist threat in
Southeast Asia. Some of her listeners were appalled by her intensity,
but she got their attention. >>
I can imagine. The Deakman article also refers to DC's article in 1962
in *National Geographic* that Nanci mentions in her song, describing it as
"the first major article in any magazine in the United States that even hinted
there was a real war going on."
Now, Nanci describes this as "she blew the whistle loud and clear," and the
easy implication is that DC was warning the US public about the escalating
war. But it sounds like the only whistle DC was interested in blowing was
to warn people that we needed to be doing more to stop the Commies in
Southeast Asia. Deakman continues:
(( By 1964, anti-war activists back home were beginning to stir up public
sentiment against America’s Vietnam involvement -- Chapelle often used
her lectures to refute them. She considered the struggle another part of the
on-going fight against Communism. >>
What made me focus on this tonight was hearing a new song by the Australian
singer Kasey Chambers called "Ignorance," which is what we once called the
"B-side" of her new CD single "Runaway Train." The "Ignorance" cut is really
an old-fashioned protest song. It's not necessarily the most artful one ever
written. But it did what a regular old "protest song" is supposed to do - it
made me stop and focus on what she was saying.
It starts off with the narrator sort of whining about how the papers always
have bad news, and you first think it's going to be an "the world's a mess
but oh baby you're all I need" kind of song.
But then she tells about hearing about how "two boys went crazy" and "15 kids
died," apparently referring to the Columbine shooting and says though "they're
on the other side of the world" (America), "it's way too close to home."
The chorus goes:
If you're not pissed off at the world
Then you're just not paying attention
You can turn off the TV and go about your day
Just 'cause you don't see it, it don't mean it's gone away
A later verse includes these lines:
We curse our moms, we build our bombs
We make our children cry
We watched the band while Vietnam
Just watched their children die
She may try to cover too much ground in this song. But doggone if this woman
who was born in, what, 1976?, doesn't sound like what the Europeans call
a "68er."
I don't think Dickey Chapelle would have approved of her.
And, I might add, Kasey's song comes closer to expressing the sentiments
Nanci's hero Martin Luther King expressed about the Vietnam war than any
of Nanci's Vietnam songs on her latest album.
Bruce "Reid Mitchell made me do it" Miller
Oakland CA
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Subject: Re: NN: Nanci, Dickey C and Vietnam
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 11:08:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Reid Mitchell (reidmitchell@yahoo.com>
--- BMiller224@aol.com wrote
> Bruce "Reid Mitchell made me do it" Miller
I have the power to cloud men's minds.
Reid "the Shadow" Mitchell
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Subject: Re: NN: No Nanci - Lucy Kaplanski
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 05:32:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: Scott Johnsen (wsjohnsen@yahoo.com>
Hi Eveyone,
For those of you who are also Lucy Kaplanski fans, she has a new album coming
out September 11th. Larry Campbell (Bob Dylan), Duke Levine (Mary Chapin
Carpenter) and Jon Herrington (Steely Dan) are among those backing her up on
various instruments and Richard Shindell, Buddy Miller, John Gorka and
Jennifer Kimball are among those helping out with the vocals. I also have a
copy of the playlist (11 songs) - if you are interested, please mail me
separately. I'd be happy to send them along.
- Scott
NP - Bill Morrissey - "Something I Saw or Thought I Saw"
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Subject: NN: Music and fun
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 01 18:49:53 +0100
From: John Edward Graveling (kai21@dial.pipex.com>
I couldn't agree more with Shawn. He plays his music for fun, and gets a
lot of enjoyment and kudos from doing so. I promote American artists here
in the U.K. for fun.
I now have twelve artists/bands on my books and that is it, as I cannot
cope with anymore and do them, and myself, justice. It is great fun. Sure
there are hassles involved and a lot of phoning/faxing/e-mailing. But
through it all I have made some truly great friendships, met a plethora
of fine, hugely talented people. I also get the opportunity to go into
the studios of Nashville, get loads of free cd's, and even get into shows
that I do not promote free!!!!
Of course you have to be professional, and be able to negotiate and sell
your act, but if you choose, or get asked to represent only the cream of
the crop, there is much enjoyment to be had. I have to remember that for
the people I represent it it their livelihood at stake, so you have to
garner the best deal possible.
Long live live music. Now that is a mouthful!!!!
John Graveling
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Subject: Re: NN: Rock Salt and Nails (NNC)
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 21:08:17 -0500
From: Kim Diorio (kinno@netzero.com>
At 09:25 AM 08/23/2001 -0400, Petop wrote:
>I recall when Joe Ely's live album came out a little over a year ago, there
>was much talk about his rendition of "Rock Salt and Nails." I thought some
>people might be interested that a wonderful version of this tune will appear
>on the Buddy and Julie Miller album to be released next month.
I also *highly* recommend Kate Wolf's recording of Rock Salt and Nails on
her excellent CD "Looking Back at You." It includes Don Lange on guitar
and duet vocals, as well as Nina Gerber on guitar and harmonica, and was
recorded live at McCabe's Guitar Shop in Santa Monica in 1979. The entire
CD is very, very high on my list of all-time favorite CD's. A must-have
album for everyone on this list (IMO) and all other serious folk music
fans. Should be a first purchase for anyone just starting to acquire
Kate's CD's. What an absolutely wonderful voice.
Many, many thanks to Nanci for leading us to Kate's music through OVOR.
Looking forward to hearing Buddy and Julie's version (as well as the rest
of their CD)!
Kim
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Subject: NN: CWH and Patty Griffin
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 02:48:13 +0100
From: "c.k.grew" (c.k.grew@btinternet.com>
Once again NanciNetters have really saved my bacon as they say over
here. Reading all the posts about CWH and the concerts that Nanci has
been playing in the US prompted me to take a visit and buy a few CDs.
Needless CWH was my first choice and my second, thanks again to posts,
was Living with Ghosts.
I have listened to CWH a couple of times but know that I need to listen
a little longer but so far I can say that I didn't like Midnight in
Missoula much, mostly due to her intonation again. However Travelling
Through this Part of You and the Dickey Chappelle tribute have really
grabbed me.
I was very wary of listening to Last Song to Mother as I am grieving
having lost mine to suicide earlier this year and Nanci's command,
almost, to cry, made the song feel loaded to me. However I did cry and
followed by the Wee Small Hours made me cry more!!! Nevertheless, Nanci
has proven cathartic and again shown me why her music has been so
central to my life for so many years.
Thank y'all again for inspiring me to turn on my CD and listen to music
again, something which has been so painful for me to do for so long.
Peace this very hot and sultry night in London
Caroline
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Subject: NN: Nanci and Tom Russell in the UK
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 08:35:55 -0400
From: Steve Robertson (stever@mindspring.com>
Found something interesting in the Hightone newsletter. Tom Russell's
schedule included dates with Nanci all over the UK throughout the month of
October:
3-Oct The Borderline London England
4-Oct TBA (w/ Kevin Anderson) Bristol England
5-Oct Hexagon (w/ Nanci Griffith) Reading England
6-Oct The Anvil (w/ Nanci Griffith) Basingstoke England
8-Oct Symphony Hall Birmingham England(w/ Nanci Griffith)
9-Oct County Bar Perth England
10-Oct TBA (w/ Dennis Collier) Castleford England
11-Oct Fibbers York England
12-Oct Folk Club West Houghton England
13-Oct Corn Exchange Cambridge England(w/ Nanci Griffith)
14-Oct Pavillion (w/ Nanci Griffith) Hemel Hempstead England
15-Oct Marlowe Theatre Cantebury England(w/ Nanci Griffith)
17-Oct Colston Hall (w/Nanci Griffith) Bristol England
19-Oct Royal Concert Hall Glasgow Scotland(w/ Nanci Griffith)
20-Oct Opera House (w/ Nanci Griffith) Newcastle Scotland
21-Oct Hexagon (w/ Nanci Griffith) Edinburgh Scotland
23-Oct Waterfront Hall Belfast Ireland(w/ Nanci Griffith)
24-Oct Opera House (w/ Nanci Griffith) Dublin Ireland
25-Oct Opera House (w/ Nanci Griffith) Dublin Ireland
26-Oct NEC (w/ Nanci Griffith) Kilarney Ireland
28-Oct Barbican (w/ Nanci Griffith) York England
30-Oct De Montford Hall Leicester England(w/ Nanci Griffith)
--
>From the Georgia Pines,
Steve Robertson
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