NanciNet Digest 8-29-01
// ...Enjoy! [BP]
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Subject: Re: NN: Nanci at the House of Blues
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 14:33:33 EDT
From: NanciNetter@aol.com
tbudlong@worldnet.att.net writes:
> > The songs were largely the same as at other recent concerts, as reported
> > here. But when she chose "Mary Margeret" as an encore, there was a cheer
> > and then a hush. How could we handle that song after such an emotional
> > concert? There were tears everywhere. Nanci's eyes, which had smiled
> > around the room, now drifted distantly into the music. On the final note,
> > usually radiant, her voice broke to a whisper.
> >
> > Whew...
Powerful!
I remember a while back that the real Mary Margaret used to participate in
this group.
Does anyone have news of late on her? I seem to recall that she was having a
lung transplant or something, and the condition seemed grave. I hope all
is well for her now!
David
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Subject: Re: NN: Nanci at the House of Blues
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 23:11:15 -0500
From: "Mark" (catfan@radiks.net>
I spoke to Maggie a week or so ago, and at the moment she's not
doing very well. All the transplant medication she's on isn't helping.
I'm hoping to visit her in early november.
Mark
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Subject: NN: Kimberly M'Carver
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 00:13:47 EDT
From: Tricia9999@aol.com
I got Bill's Village Record newsletter today and was so happy to see that
Kimberly M. is releasing a new record next month. Very exciting to see her
getting back to it. Another Texas singer/songwriter that gives Nanci much
credit for her inspiration.
Good sounds if you're not familiar,
Tricia
(so much new, good music coming out lately)
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Subject: NN: RE: NNC: A couple of recommendations.
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 11:22:55 +0100
From: Tony Bloomfield (tonyb@reading.u-net.com>
// those of us not from the UK may not know about the
// summer Monday "bank holidays." Civilized idea, huh? [BP]
The reason they're always on a Monday dates back to the old agricultural
days, when all English farm workers spent most of Sunday (their only
official day off) getting so drunk that only half of them would turn up for
work on Monday. So the authorities, not being altogether daft, moved all
the holidays, which used to be on Saint's days, to Mondays on the basis
that not much work got done then anyway.
But as my namesake Matt (no relation, far as I know) says, it usually
rains. And when it doesn't, the roads get so chock full of traffic that
it's best to just stay home and listen to Nanci (obligatory mention).
I have to disagree with Matt though on Nerina Pallot. I haven't heard a
lot, but I have to say that what I have heard, in the words of a well-known
diva, "don't impress me much". She must have some influential backers
though, regular expensive advertisements in The Times, record of the week
on Radio 2; maybe I'm missing something. The UK is totally awash with girl
singers and groups these days, trying to extend the Spice Girls
"phenomenon" I suppose, but I don't think many of them will have much
lasting power.
But thanks for the mention of Sheryl Crow, coz that reminds me of another
singer I heard compared to her recently, Lynn Miles. She's Canadian (I
think), been around a while, and it sounds like she has a new record out,
so I'm reminded to investigate. Anyone else recommend her?
Incidentally, I switched on the radio the other day to hear Nanci singing
"Things we said today". Then, hold on, she hasn't officially recorded that
and the Beeb doesn't normally play unrecorded songs. A little closer listen
and I still wasn't too sure, yes it is Nanci, no it isn't. Anyway, it
turned out to be one Mary McCaslin. Anyone else made similar Nanci-mistakes?
Cheers,
Tony(brain full of useless facts)B.
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Subject: Re: NN: RE: NNC: A couple of recommendations.
Date: 27 Aug 2001 19:47:27 +0000
From: "Matt Bloomfield" (mailm@tthewb.u-net.com>
*Tony Bloomfield* wrote:
> // those of us not from the UK may not know about the
> // summer Monday "bank holidays." Civilized idea, huh? [BP]
Was that added just to the digest message or to did it go to the
un-moderated list too? Just wondering if I'm missing messages or not.
Incidently, we now have a group campaigning for more of these holidays
as we're quite behind the rest of Europe in only getting eight days
off a year.
Matt
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Subject: NN: looking for chapelle
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 06:37:29 -0400
From: Amber-Lorien Gilbert (alorien@juno.com>
I'm doing a research paper on Dickey Chapelle for my Photography class.
Having a tough time with internet searches that give minimal info. Any
suggestions, internet-wise? I heard Nanci used the internet when she
wrote Pearl's Eye View.... anyone know which sites?
Thanks for any help,
amber-lorien gilbert
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Subject: NN: Re: looking for chapelle
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:33:23 +0100
From: "Susan Cane" (SusanCane@btinternet.com>
Amber-Lorien Gilbert (alorien@juno.com> said:
>I'm doing a research paper on Dickey Chapelle for my Photography class.
>Having a tough time with internet searches that give minimal info. Any
>suggestions, internet-wise? I heard Nanci used the internet when she
>wrote Pearl's Eye View.... anyone know which sites?
There's a short piece about Dickey Chapelle at:
http://www.missouri.edu/~wjcb23/seventhpage.html
and a much longer, more detailed article at:
http://www.military.com/Content/MoreContent1/?file=vn_chapelle
At http://digitaljournalist.org/issue9711/req1.htm there's a series of
photographs from the book 'REQUIEM By The Photographers Who Died In
Vietnam and Indochina.'
Susan
*** e-mail: SusanCane@btinternet.com ***
*** website: www.susancane.btinternet.co.uk ***
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Subject: NN: Re: RE: NNC: A couple of recommendations.
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 08:11:08 -0400
From: "Sid Porter" (mistercd@msn.com>
>Incidentally, I switched on the radio the other day to hear Nanci singing
>"Things we said today". Then, hold on, she hasn't officially recorded that
>and the Beeb doesn't normally play unrecorded songs. A little closer listen
>and I still wasn't too sure, yes it is Nanci, no it isn't. Anyway, it
>turned out to be one Mary McCaslin. Anyone else made similar Nanci-mistakes?
Nanci did, indeed, record "Things We Said Today", on The EP, AAA Radio
Sampler. If you watch eBay closely, it turns up there from time to time.
Regards,
Sid Porter
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Subject: NN: Joe Weed (marginal Nanci content)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 08:23:46 -0700
From: "Jim Mehl" (mehl@ihot.com>
I would just like to recommend a new CD by Joe Weed, called
"Swanee, the Music of Stephen Foster". I don't know Joe
personally, but he lives up here in the Santa Cruz Mountains
near Los Gatos/Saratoga and the Mountain Winery (Nanci's last
concert site). Didn't Nanci do "Hard Times Come Again No More"
on one of her Other Voices albums? I think Nanci and Joe Weed
would get along very well.
Jim Mehl
Los Gatos, CA
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Subject: NN: nanci at the winery
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 08:36:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bill Page (bpage3@yahoo.com>
Hey folks, I am forwarding this from another list, by permission of the
author...enjoy...BP
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From: sals_music@webtv.net | Block Address
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 01:45:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [moonpie] nanci at the winery
due to a good twist of fate, i was able to go hear nanci griffith at the
mountain winery in saratoga tonight. great show. i'd never heard her
live before, so this was a special treat. i've never been a huge
follower of hers, mainly in relation to others, such as the group
projects on the "other voices" albums and as backup on some others, such
as gove scrivenor's "shine on" album (great album, btw.) she did talk
about the anti-landmine efforts a lot, but that's okay. this is a
project she has devoted a lot of time to and she wants to tell the world
about it. the whole place fell silent (one of those pin drop moments)
as she told about going into the hospitals in ho chi minh city and
holding in her arms babies who are awaiting fittings for arm and leg
prostheses. she named off some of the musicians who have become
involved with her in the landmine effort, including emmylou, willie,
kris, paul simon, and some others. all that aside, the music was grand
on this glorious night under the stars. a special guest was announced
-- nina gerber, who was a guitarist for kate wolf. she is an excellent
guitarist, whipping out some good riffs on an acoustic guitar. she has
a website at ninagerber.com and her schedule is posted there. she's
doing several shows around the area, including a show with slaid in
santa cruz, which is a benefit for sarah elizabeth campbell. but my two
out-of-town friends and i will be going to hear david grisman that night
in petaluma. maybe i'll catch her somewhere else while i'm here. she
did several numbers with nanci and the blue moon orchestra. nanci and
band played for about and hour and a half, then came back for an encore
of a few songs. "i've got a hammer" was a big hit and everyone sang
along. wonder how many people have recorded this song over the years?
for those of you across the pond, nanci will be touring over there soon.
in october, i believe. well worth the price of admission, in my
opinion. this venue, the mountain winery, is such a special place.
mystical and magical with good vibes all around. we may be slightly
hypoxic due to the altitude, but i swear i think some kind of special
energy envelopes us the moment we hit the top of that mountain and the
music starts.
cheers,
sally
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Subject: NN: Oxford American Music Issue (no Nanci)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 12:25:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: Anna McCalman (carwheels_2000@yahoo.com>
How's everybody doing?
As always the Oxford American magazine put out its
annual Southern Music issue (with CD) & if you've not
already bought your copy, go ahead & plunk down the
dough. If you don't know where to find a copy you can
look on their website: www.oxfordamericanmag.com
(I've got you covered, Tony)
All the proceeds of the music issue goes to Music
Maker, a charity for musicians---definitely a good
cause. There are back issues of the 'zine you can
purchase too.
There's an article on Emmylou Harris with a blurb by
Gillian Welch, one on the 'O, Brother-hood' and even
an article on Bill Clinton (LOL) with sax---not
sex--in tow, & also Victoria Williams to name a few.
Oh, and a topic I find strange is Billy Bob Thorton's
'budding' music career (?!?) along with Ralph Stanley
& Bob Dylan, Elvis---even Tiny Tim. There's also
reviews on REM, Lucinda Williams, etc. U git tha
pikchur.
Terrific magazine for those who've never read it.
This morning my boyfriend (who works at the Peabody
Hotel) met B.B. King. He was in town (Memphis) for
the Great Southern Beer Festival. Michael(BF) said he
was very nice, extremely personable and was talking
with everybody & signing autographs. I thought it was
cool because I'm a huge blues fan.
Have a great day, y'all!
Anna
'She sleeps alone on the warm nights in Memphis
Where the Peabody Hotel meets the velveteen sky
She sings like the waves in the cool Mississippi
that brought her from St. Paul in '75.'
Love in a Memory
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Subject: NN: No Nanci Content - Lucy Kaplansky
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:11:45 -0400
From: "Baird, Tim" (tim.baird@troutmansanders.com>
Since someone else mentioned that Lucy's new album was going on sale on
September 11, I thought I would give a head's up to those of you in Central
Virginia that you can see Lucy in Ashland, VA on September 13th at Ashland
Coffee & Tea, a pretty small venue. Here's the link to their music
calendar: http://www.acservices.com/javanut/calendar.htm
I also recommend getting there for the opening act, Susan Greenbaum. You
won't believe that such a great voice can come out of a gal under 5 feet
tall!! Susan's got a website with some free downloads on mp3.com if you
want to check her out. Here's the link:
http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/60/susan_greenbaum.html
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Subject: NN: Northampton Sunday September 16th
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 18:39:45 -0400
From: "Mark Oland" (olandm@home.com>
I have 2 tickets to the 9/16 concert in Northampton, Mass which, due to =
an illness, cannot use. They are in the second row and are $39.25 per =
ticket.
Please e-mail me at olandm@home.com if you would like to purchase the =
tickets. No profit sought, first come-first served. =20
Heart sick I can't go!
Mark
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Subject: NN: RE: NanciNet #01826 - Wing and the Wheel
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:05:39 -0700
From: "Young, Greg" (Greg.Young@ucsfmedctr.org>
Tricia: I first saw NN at the Vancouver Folk Festival you mention as being
the germinal site for Wing and the Wheel. Gotta tell you that I had not
heard of, let alone heard Nanci before that weekend back in the summer of
1984 (or was it 1985?) Anyway, I too came away inspired after I heard her
performance, plus Ferron and Nina Gerber and a few others on that long and
remarkable bill.
What was so remarkable about Nanci, is that most of the folks I talked too
who tuned into her set were either newcomers or novices to her and music -
but we mostly left converts. And it wasn't just the adoration of the lovely
Nanci effect (I have seen this in action) either. I , for one, was so far
back and she was wearing such a face covering hat (one of those South East
Asian rice field worker deals) that her whole physiognomy was invisible to
me. All I knew was that there was a young woman with a guitar who had a lot
too say, a lot of spunk, and who with an engaging and decidedly accented
voice that made me damn glad I had sat through 90+ degree heat in a broiling
sun to see her (I know - you probably think that description couldn't
possibly apply to Vancouver Canada- but believe!).
Of course - the story wouldn't be complete without another implausible
anecdote. After her set, NN was chaperoned through the throngs to the
artists 'pavilion' (Ok, a tent). As luck would have it, our paths
intersected somewhere amidst about the 90 thousand other festival go'ers -
Recognizing the hat, I offered up a hearty thanks for the great set and
opined that her hat was the fashion statement of the weekend. To her
further credit, Ms. Griffith shot back - "Thanks, I'm going right now to go
see how much beer I can put under it, so wish me luck."
I have thought very kindly of her and her talents ever since.
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Subject: NN: Ticket for Nanci's NYC show
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 09:53:43 EDT
From: BarbLynnK@aol.com
Hi All,
Does anyone want to buy a ticket for Nanci's Beacon Theatre show on September
14? I was out of the country on vacation and not one but TWO of my
goodhearted friends bought me a ticket! So now we're three people with four
tickets. It's in Row W, Orchestra.
Thanks,
Barbara
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Subject: NN: Nickel Creek (Little Nanci content)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 11:36:40 -0500
From: "Kaczmarczyk, Peter A" (pkaczmar@indiana.edu>
I was wondering if anyone new anything about a band called Nickel Creek. They
are currently touring with Glen Phillips, former lead singer of Toad the Wet
Sprocket, and have been described as 'adult folk rock'. I'm going to see them
in Indy in a month or so and was wondering if anyone new anything about there
sound, show etc.
Glen Phillips, by the way, I would recommend to any Nancinetter that likes
intelligent rock/pop music. I saw him perform in a small club a few months back
and if was a thoroughly entertaining show. I have long been a fan of Toad, in
my mind one of the best bands to record in the '90's, even after they had a
string of successful hits, and Glen's solo album 'Abulum' continues the line of
quality music. The lyrics are intelligent and
coherent, the melodies catchy, and the upbeat songs can get the blood flowing
while the slower songs can really stir the emotions. For that matter this can
be said of any Toad album.
If you are interested 'Abulum' It can be ordered from his Glen's website,
http://www.glenphillips.com/, and there are songs to sample as well if you want
to know what the sound is like.
Nanci content: I almost forgot, Toads album 'Dulcinea' has a song on it called
Nanci, in which they discuss who is preferred, Loretta or Nanci, and contains a
line that has always stuck with me, referring to Nanci, "You bend your words
like Uri Gellers spoons".
Peter K.
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Subject: Re: NN: Nickel Creek (Little Nanci content)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 14:31:37 EDT
From: DickFile@aol.com
Nickel Creek is a "modern" bluegrass band. The featured artist is a young
(20 y/o) mandolin player named Chris Thile. He produced two solo CDs
("Leading Off..." and "Stealing Second") prior to the release of this group
effort. The initial CD (self titled) was produced by Alison Krauss.
The group is generally regarded as one of the "hot" up and coming groups in
Bluegrass music. Thile participated in the last two Dolly Parton efforts
("The Grass is Blue," and "Little Sparrow") and appeared on Austin City
Limits with Parton, doing a five song set following Dolly's performance.
They have been nominated for quite a few Bluegrass and Country Music awards.
The band consists of:
Chris Thile ... mandolin and vocals
Sara Watkins ... fiddle and vocals
Sean Watkins ... guitar and vocals
Scott Thile ... bass
Sara and Sean are brother and sister and both young players. Scott and Chris
are father/son.
I encourage you to hear them!
Please share the Indianapolis date (email me, rather than list), as I might
be interested in attending that concert if the date permits.
Dick "recently retired" File
CP - "Time (the Revelator)" by Gillian Welch
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Subject: Re: NN: Nickel Creek (Little Nanci content)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 14:37:20 EDT
From: Petop@aol.com
pkaczmar@indiana.edu writes:
> I was wondering if anyone new anything about a band called Nickel
> Creek. They are currently touring with Glen Phillips, former lead singer of
> A wonderful trio, but I would describe them as modern bluegrass, if that is
not an oxymoron. Their eponymous first album was one of my favorites from
last year.
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"I don't mind if you don't like my manners. I don't like them
myself. They're pretty bad. I grieve over them on long winter
evenings."
--Philip Marlowe (Humphrey Bogart) at his best in "The Big Sleep,"
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Subject: Re: NN: Nickel Creek (Little Nanci content)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 16:45:29 -0400
From: Steve Robertson (stever@mindspring.com>
on 8/29/01 2:31 PM, DickFile@aol.com at DickFile@aol.com wrote:
> Nickel Creek is a "modern" bluegrass band.
> The group is generally regarded as one of the "hot" up and coming groups in
> Bluegrass music.
Just a slight clarification. This is one of those groups that are considered
bluegrass by most folks, while die-hard bluegrass fans do not consider them
to be a bluegrass group. They are certainly all wizards on their
instruments, and could play any bluegrass tune, but they would find it
difficult to play the classic bluegrass songs by themselves because of the
fact that they have no banjo player.
I think they have been nominated for some awards by the International
Bluegrass Music Assn., but this whole subject creates endless discussion on
the Bgrass-L. Anyone who would like to judge for themselves can learn more
at:
http://www.nickelcreek.com/
You could also go to the CMT site and check the schedule to see when the
Nickel Creek videos are airing:
http://www.cmt.com/
--
>From the Georgia Pines,
Steve Robertson
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_________Fiddlin' Around____________
The Journal of American Roots Music on the web at
http://www.starchart.com/
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Subject: NN: Have We Seen the Future of Online Music?
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 12:31:55 EDT
From: BMiller224@aol.com
Does anyone remember the HDTV (high-definition television) hype? Back in the
late 1980s, there were many sober articles in the business press talking about
how HDTV for the masses was right around the corner, how the US had a big
technological lead on Japan on *this* one, etc., etc. I remember buying a
television in 1988 and thinking that in a couple of years I would need to
replace the thing with an HDTV set.
That was long before the phrase "Internet" ever popped up in normal business
articles. Long before words and phrases like "dot.com" and "dot.com crash"
entered English and several other languages. And how many of you are watching
HDTV? How many of you have those nice, thin screens that you hang up on the
living room wall like a picture?
Well, I sure don't. And I don't know of anyone who does. But I hear the
technology is progressing, and that mass-market versions will be out real soon.
I mention this because it reminds me very much of the sad public show we're
seeing playing out now as the recording industry draws, quarters, disembowels
and otherwise gleefully dismembers online music. Or at least the potential
that online music has. (I haven't quite adopted the past tense yet.)
If you're curious as to what the corporate version for the future of online
music is, the
current issue of *Business Week* (9/30/01) spells it out in a succinct little
two-page article. Two competing conglomerate services are set to debut in
September. Sony and Universal Music are coming out with Pressplay. And
another cartel consisting of EMI, BMG, Warner, Zomba and RealNetworks will have
MusicNet.
While Congress and the European Union fiddle around (excuse the metaphor) and
grump now and then about the need for more competition, the various regulators
try to cobble together something to sort out the endless conflicting claims of
various parties trying to get a piece of the action.
Meanwhile, *Business Week* describes what consumers can expect:
(( Just as problematic for the services [as regulatory issues] is the fact that
still-heated rivalries within the music world have so far stopped the two
groups from cross-licensing music to each other. That means that for the $10 to
$15 a month the services are expected to charge, a consumer might get songs
from Shaggy and Blink-182 but not from the Dave Matthews Band and `N Sync. That
would make each service akin to a radio that gets only half the stations. The
services, at least initially, will not allow music to be burned to CDs or
loaded into portable players. The tunes downloaded or streamed will expire
after a certain time period. "It's absolutely a fatal flaw," says Ken C.
Pohlmann, a University of Miami professor specializing in digital music. >>
In other words, the corporate vision for online music is commercial radio.
Only not quite as good. They probably won't have much advertising at first.
Of course, what they envision *is* essentially one long advertisement, i.e.,
playlists selected heavily with an eye to hyping the latest releases,
particularly those of the lowest-common-denominator variety.
There is even a chance they will attract a lot of customers. Stranger, more
unlikely things have sometimes happened in the world. But, successful or not,
it won't take the corporate bean-counters long to convince the conglomerates
that they can boost their bottom lines by having paid advertisements. Then it
will pretty much be exactly like commercial radio.
The only remaining task is to steamroller the remaining online competition out
of existence. There are a few Napster clones yet to be sued into oblivion.
Independent artists still have a few online outlets, which can probably be
squashed if Congress and the EU just look the other way a couple more years. A
few stations are able to broadcast online that still select songs on the
quaint, silly model of putting together a program of selections that actually
*sound good* together. Those can surely be overwhelmed with some combination
of legal and illegal payola and a bit of cooperation from friendly regulators.
The Iron Heel meets online music (for Jack London fans).
I wish I could think of a reasonably likely Hollywood happy ending for this
one. But I guess we'll have to wait for the movie version for that.
We can all watch it on our HDTV sets.
Bruce Miller
Oakland CA
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