// Can it really be September already?
// ...Enjoy!  [BP]

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Subject: NN: Re: Nickel Creek (Little Nanci content)
   Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 00:17:26 -0400
   From: "The Kimbros" (kimbroj@charter.net>

> I was wondering if anyone new anything about a band called Nickel Creek. 
> They are currently touring with Glen Phillips, former lead singer of
> Toad the Wet Sprocket, and have been described as 'adult folk rock'. I'm
> going to see them in Indy in a month or so and was wondering if anyone new
> anything about there sound, show etc

Hey Peter --

I've caught Nickel Creek a couple of times, once intentionally, once by
accident and I really enjoyed both shows.  They're a little different live
that you might expect as they are prone to longish jams and lots of
instrumentals.  Sort of the Peter Rowan, Jerry Garcia school of acoustic
performance if that makes sense. I don't know where the description of
'adult folk rock' came from.  While they fit in well at the more progressive
bluegrass festivals, they generally draw a younger audience.  Highlights are
Chris Thile's mandolin "chuck" breaks in the style of Sam Bush.  Don't
expect the slick polished sound of the album as their recordings have been
heavily manipulated and some "guest artists" appear that are not listed in
the credits.  I'm always amazed at how any artists, whatever the maturity
level, could allow that to happen.  I guess that's just the Nashville music
industry at work.  But it bugs me for example that Dolly's video "Shine"
that most of us have seen on VH1, CMT, etc. shows Nickel Creek's pretty
young Sarah Watkins playing the fiddle, but it's really Stuart Duncan that
you hear.  But despite all that, these young folks are as talented as they
come and they're sure to put on a great show with Phillips.

Enjoy,
-Shawn

http://mountainsoul.cjb.net

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Subject: NN: Re: Nickel Creek (Little Nanci content)
   Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 11:17:11 -0500
   From: Jackie (j.klinnert@att.net>

In my September PBS station guide, it lists 'Dolly Parton with Nickel
Creek' on Austin City Limits. I assume it's the same Nickel Creek?

Jackie

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Subject: Re: NN: Re: Nickel Creek (Little Nanci content)
   Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 16:38:54 -0400
   From: Steve Robertson (stever@mindspring.com>

on 8/30/01 12:17 PM, Jackie at j.klinnert@att.net wrote:

> In my September PBS station guide, it lists 'Dolly Parton with Nickel
> Creek' on Austin City Limits. I assume it's the same Nickel Creek?

Yep, I saw that one when it first aired. Dolly gets about 45 minutes and
Nickel Creek about 15. This also demonstrates one of my pet peeves. I bought
the Nickel Creek CD long ago. Every time I've seen them on TV, they have
been forced to do only songs from the CD- which I've already heard plenty of
times. I saw some streaming video from Merlefest (no longer on the Web)
where Nickel Creek, Darol Anger, and a banjo player mixed and matched to
create some great music- none of it from their CD.

The TV effect is even worse on shows like the Grand Ole Opry, where most
folks do only one song. They always do their greatest hit. I want to hear
new songs!!!

-- 
>From the Georgia Pines,
Steve Robertson

====================================
_________Fiddlin' Around____________
The Journal of American Roots Music  on the web at
      http://www.starchart.com/
====================================

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Subject: Re: NN: Re: Nickel Creek (Little Nanci content)
   Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 17:53:29 EDT
   From: DickFile@aol.com

In a message dated 8/30/01 12:56:32 PM, j.klinnert@att.net writes:

(( In my September PBS station guide, it lists 'Dolly Parton with Nickel
Creek' on Austin City Limits. I assume it's the same Nickel Creek? >>

Same group.  It's a rebroadcast (I think) ...  I saw it earlier in the year.  

For folks who want to "preview" this group, they actually play 3 or 4 songs 
at the very end of the program after Dolly has done her set.

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Subject: NN: Nanci and NO DEPRESSION
   Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 08:55:19 -0400
   From: "David Steere" (SteereD@sil.si.edu>

In addition to the wonderful music issue of OXFORD AMERICAN, the new 
issue of NO DEPRESSION is just out.  Nice articles, including one about 
Gillian Welch.  Lots of reviews (some of upcoming releases) including a 
nice one of CLOCK WITHOUT HANDS.  A wonderful magazine.

david

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Subject: NN: Oxford American Music Issue (no Nanci)
   Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 12:25:55 -0700 (PDT)
   From: Anna McCalman (carwheels_2000@yahoo.com>

How's everybody doing?

As always the Oxford American magazine put out its
annual Southern Music issue (with CD) & if you've not
already bought your copy, go ahead & plunk down the
dough.  If you don't know where to find a copy you can
look on their website:  www.oxfordamericanmag.com
(I've got you covered, Tony)

All the proceeds of the music issue goes to Music
Maker, a charity for musicians---definitely a good
cause.  There are back issues of the 'zine you can
purchase too.

There's an article on Emmylou Harris with a blurb by
Gillian Welch, one on the 'O, Brother-hood' and even
an article on Bill Clinton (LOL) with sax---not
sex--in tow, & also Victoria Williams to name a few.
Oh, and a topic I find strange is Billy Bob Thorton's
'budding' music career (?!?) along with Ralph Stanley
& Bob Dylan, Elvis---even Tiny Tim.  There's also
reviews on REM, Lucinda Williams, etc.  U git tha
pikchur.

Terrific magazine for those who've never read it.  

This morning my boyfriend (who works at the Peabody
Hotel) met B.B. King.  He was in town (Memphis) for
the Great Southern Beer Festival.  Michael(BF) said he
was very nice, extremely personable and was talking
with everybody & signing autographs.  I thought it was
cool because I'm a huge blues fan.  

Have a great day, y'all!

Anna

'She sleeps alone on the warm nights in Memphis
Where the Peabody Hotel meets the velveteen sky
She sings like the waves in the cool Mississippi
that brought her from St. Paul in '75.'

Love in a Memory

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Subject: NN: Other Voices 2
   Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 13:35:22 -0400
   From: "David Begley" (dave@begley.com>

This was my least favorite Nanci CD, but I was flipping channels and came
across a TV show of Other Voices, Too.  It is helping me appreciate the
songs a little more.

This show is on channel OVATN (Ovation Arts Network) and will be repeated as
follows:
8/31 8pm
9/1 12am
9/1 8pm
9/2 12am

That's all,
Dave

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Subject: NN: Nanci in Country Music People magazine
   Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 21:20:28 +0100
   From: "Susan Cane" (SusanCane@btinternet.com>

There's a 3-page (including photographs) article about/interview with
Nanci in the September edition of the UK's Country Music People
magazine.  I haven't yet had the chance to read it properly, but the
piece seems to focus on 'Clock Without Hands', Vietnam, and how she's
"disgusted with country music"...

Susan

*** e-mail: SusanCane@btinternet.com ***
*** website: www.susancane.btinternet.co.uk ***

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Subject: NN: Blue Roses dropped from memory?
   Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 16:27:20 EDT
   From: Tricia9999@aol.com

I'm sure curious why all the PR and press relates that CWH is the first 
"regular" record of new songs since Flyer? Blue Roses has more originals on 
it than CWH, so it can't really fit into a different category. Think they 
just want not to draw attention to BR since it didn't get such a great 
response? I'm confused.

Also, very surprised about Shawn's post about guest musicians who aren't 
credited and videos with musicians that aren't really playing absent the ones 
that are. The music business is quite a wonder.


Tricia


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Subject: NN: Re: Nickel Creek
   Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 01:24:45 -0400
   From: "The Kimbros" (kimbroj@charter.net>

Didn't mean to give the impression by any means that the musicians in Nickel
Creek aren't great because they are fantastic and I really like this group.
Just wanted to point out that they are a commercial act and in my opinion
somewhat exploited by the music industry.  They obviously don't feel that
way.  A link on their web site points to a Washington Post article which
quotes Sarah Watkins, "I love seeing myself play and hearing Stuart's sound
coming out."  My editorial is simply this, what you see should be what you
get.  In Nashville, it isn't always.

All my best,
-Shawn

http://www.mp3.com/mountainsoul

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Subject: Re: NN: Re: Nickel Creek
   Date: Fri, 31 Aug 01 08:09:10 +0100
   From: John Edward Graveling (kai21@dial.pipex.com>

Groups using studio musicians to play on their records isn't just 
symptomatic of Nashville. Take ZZ Top (yes that band with men and long 
beards), Frank Beard is their drummer, yet Greg Morrow drums on many of 
their records.

Funny old world.

John Graveling

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Subject: Re: NN: Re: Nickel Creek
   Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 00:17:53 EDT
   From: Petop@aol.com

> Take ZZ Top (yes that band with men and long 
> beards), Frank Beard is their drummer, yet Greg Morrow drums on many of 
> their records.

       More unfortunately than that, on two of the band's biggest selling 
albums of the 1980s, a drum machine was used. 

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Subject: NN: Re: Nickel Creek
   Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 11:58:28 EDT
   From: BMiller224@aol.com

Shawn writes nostalgically:

(( My editorial is simply this, what you see should be what 
you get.  In Nashville, it isn't always. >>

Shawn, Shawn, how old-fashioned can you be?

I mean, you're stuck in the ancient times when people were really shocked to
hear that the Monkees DIDN'T PLAY THEIR OWN INSTRUMENTS on their first couple
of records.  And when fans fretted that the Beatles "couldn't reproduce their
own sound on stage" after SGT. PEPPER was released.

Those were the days when politicians didn't have affairs, the movies were all
wholesome and uplifting, and the kids still respected the college dean.

C'mon, man, snap out of it!! Next you'll be telling us that performers
appearing live should use their own hair and their own breast and actually sing
their songs instead of using pre-recorded tracks.  Get with it. Life moves on,
you know!

Milli Vanilli was the early vanguard of postmodern popular music.  If you
*think* that's Joe Blow playing the fiddle, that should be enough.  Now, I'm
all for "authenticity" and stuff. But, hey, if it's authentically faked, isn't
that just as good?  

Bruce Miller, who only likes *real* performers
Oakland CA

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Subject: Re: NN: Re: Nickel Creek
   Date: Fri, 31 Aug 01 18:06:32 +0100
   From: John Edward Graveling (kai21@dial.pipex.com>

Well only Roger (Jim at the time) McGuinn played on the early Byrds 
singles, so the story goes on and on and on!!!!

John Graveling

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Subject: Re: NN: Re: Nickel Creek
   Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 11:04:36 -0700 (PDT)
   From: Reid Mitchell (reidmitchell@yahoo.com>

> Well only Roger (Jim at the time) McGuinn played on the early Byrds 
> singles, so the story goes on and on and on!!!!

And Lee Satterfield is the real Nanci Griffith.

(There.  That ought to confuse everybody who's joined
the list in the past, oh my goodness, 4 or 5 years.)

Reid Rumormonger Mitchell

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Subject: NN: Reid's rumour
   Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 15:14:01 -0700
   From: "Julie" (julieanne-101@home.com>

> And Lee Satterfield is the real Nanci Griffith.
> (There.  That ought to confuse everybody who's joined
> the list in the past, oh my goodness, 4 or 5 years.)

Hey Reid,

I thought you were Nanci incognito until I heard you cover This Heart on
UPO2.  I loved your sound, but it's so masculine I was forced to abandon my
*theory*.   Now I think you're James  :)

Julie "love a good imposter/conspiracy theory"

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Subject: NN: Re: Reid's rumour
   Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 23:27:45 -0400
   From: "The Kimbros" (kimbroj@charter.net>

No, he's the devil incarnate.  I met him at a crossroads in Mississippi
where I offered to swap him my soul for guitar talent.  He just laughed and
offered me a Pabst Blue Ribbon instead.  Mean man, but it turned out to be a
pretty good deal.

-Shawn

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Subject: NN: Magazine interviews
   Date: Fri, 31 Aug 01 22:59:39 +0100
   From: John Edward Graveling (kai21@dial.pipex.com>

"Faith Hill can't even carry a tune in a hand basket" declares Nanci 
Griffith, her own voice rising to a high pitched whine, "and I don't care 
who knows how I feel about it. She just happens to be pretty, so she's a 
star. I find it disgusting". So begins a three page interview with Nanci 
in the September edition of Country Music People. Most of the interview 
centres on Nanci's work in Vietnam and the new cd "Clock Without Hands". 
It ends as brazenly as it opens, "country music needs to take a good look 
at itself and decide whether it wants to be pop music or country. You've 
got one songwriter in Shania Twain - and that's not country music. I love 
her music. But it's not country music".

Then in the September edition of Country Music International, in a one 
page interview, again covering her work in Vietnam, plus a little about 
John Stewart, Nanci concludes when asked "Have you thought seriously 
about future recording projects?"

"It's a little too early to be thinking about it, but I have written 
several songs lately. Tom Russell will be touring with us over here (the 
U.K.) this fall and I've listened to his album Borderlands. I've known 
him since I was 14 years old, he was the first person to believe in me 
and record my songs, so I've been really influenced by him. I've written 
three songs about Tom Russell, and they've all come out very much 
West-Tex-Mex. I think if anything placing me in any kind of musical 
genre, and me saying forever, I'm not really a country artist, the 
direction I've been going is this born true West-Tex-Mex. So maybe that's 
what you'll see me doing next"

Plenty of food for thought in those two interviews!!!!!!!

John "keeping y'all informed" Graveling

Off to see the simply wonderful Kevin Welch in London tomorrow night.

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Subject: NN: Re: Magazine interviews
   Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 00:34:09 -0400
   From: Tony Cox (tonycox@pacific.net.au>

John Edward Graveling wrote:

> It ends as brazenly as it opens, "country music needs to take a good look
> at itself and decide whether it wants to be pop music or country. You've
> got one songwriter in Shania Twain - and that's not country music. I love
> her music. But it's not country music".

Assuming this to be an accurate quote, it really is disappointing to see
Nanci getting hung up over labels, especially as she herself has had to
endure similar blinkered vision from some of the country music establishment
throughout her own career.  As Bruce says, she must have been having 'quite a
day'.  Or quite a lot of beer ;)

Tony - having quite a good day, as it happens.

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"How 'bout them transparent dangling
carrots?"                                                    Alanis Morissette

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Subject: Re: NN: Magazine interviews
   Date: 1 Sep 2001 17:27:00 +0000
   From: "Matt Bloomfield" (mailm@tthewb.u-net.com>

*John Edward Graveling* wrote:

> "Faith Hill can't even carry a tune in a hand basket" declares Nanci 
> Griffith, her own voice rising to a high pitched whine, "and I don't care 
> who knows how I feel about it. She just happens to be pretty, so she's a 
> star. I find it disgusting".

I think that's a bit unfair.  Of all the modern "country" - and I
don't listen to it that much - I think Faith Hill is a performer who
can hold her own with the best of them.  Breathe, the only Faith Hill
album I own is not half bad.  Although Nanci's comment could apply to
many "artists", I find her choice of target strange.  Mind you, it's
the kind of comment that gets reprinted and when you have a new album
to promote some people'll do anything for the publicity.  Still Nanci,
you don't need to stoop that low. 
 
> "country music needs to take a good look 
> at itself and decide whether it wants to be pop music or country. 

Why can't it be both?

> You've 
> got one songwriter in Shania Twain - and that's not country music. I love 
> her music. But it's not country music".

LOL, Shania is an entertainer.  Damn good at it too, but not my
cup-of-tea.  In terms of song writing though, she's comparable to
Stock, Aitken and Waterman IMO.  All style no content.  Maybe I've not
heard her real stuff.

>  Tom Russell will be touring with us over here (the 
> U.K.) this fall and I've listened to his album Borderlands.

As well as the dates with Nanci - which I can't wait for.  Tom Russell
is a appearing with Andrew Hardin at the Borderline on Wed 3rd
October.  http://www.borderline.co.uk/

Matt
-- 
http://www.mattbloomfield.co.uk

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Subject: Re: NN: Magazine interviews
   Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 17:54:55 +0100
   From: "Susan Cane" (SusanCane@btinternet.com>

Matt Bloomfield (mailm@tthewb.u-net.com> said:

>As well as the dates with Nanci - which I can't wait for.  Tom Russell
>is a appearing with Andrew Hardin at the Borderline on Wed 3rd
>October.  http://www.borderline.co.uk/

They'll be at the Hen & Chicken in Bristol on 4th October, too (as well
as doing some other dates of their own).  The details of the Bristol
show are on my 'still being put together' website: URL below!

Since Tom and Andy are due to be at the Borderline in London on the 3rd,
I suppose they can't be opening for Nanci in Cardiff on the same
evening!

Susan

*** e-mail: SusanCane@btinternet.com ***
*** website: www.susancane.btinternet.co.uk ***

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Subject: NN: Hi!
   Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 00:10 +0100 (BST)
   From: keithhouse@cix.compulink.co.uk (K House Liberal Democrats)

A new arrival on the list, just saying "hi".

Snapped up "Clock Without Hands" in California last week on holiday - 
hadn't realised it was due for release yet back home in England (if it 
is!).

Should have timed the holiday a bit more carefully and got tickets to the 
show in LA... instead I'll wait for some of the English events in October!

Keith House

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Subject: NN: Re: Magazine interviews
   Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 00:17:04 EDT
   From: BMiller224@aol.com

John quotes from a recent interview with Nanci:

(( "Faith Hill can't even carry a tune in a hand basket" declares Nanci
Griffith, her own
voice rising to a high pitched whine, "and I don't care who knows how I feel
about it. She just happens to be pretty, so she's a star. I find it
disgusting". ... It ends as brazenly as it opens, "country music needs to take
a good look at itself and decide whether it wants to be pop music or country.
You've got one songwriter in Shania Twain - and that's not country music. I
love her music. But it's not country music". >>

I bought a CD last year called *Satan is Real.*  I thought it must be a
collection of songs about Shania Twain.  Turns out it's a compilation of old
Louvin Brothers Gospel songs.  It has a real cool cover picture of the brothers
performing in Hell.

So Nanci hates Faith Hill and *likes* Shania Twain.  Wow!  That *is* news.  She
must have been having quite a day when she did that interview.

Actually, I guess she says she likes Shania's songwriting.  Hmm.  I wonder what
Nanci thinks of "Don't Let Me Be the Last to Know," a song Shania wrote for
another singer who issued it on a CD last year.  The first time I heard it, it
thought it was gag-me-with-a-spoon awful.  But when I saw the video version, I
warmed up to it a bit.

This is a little surprising from Nanci, who used to tell the story about how
she refused to go with Julie Gold to the Barbara Mandrell Museum because she
was afraid of getting polyester poisoning.  But Nanci is just full of
surprises.

Bruce Miller
Oakland CA

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Subject: Re: NN: Re: Magazine interviews
   Date: Sat, 1 Sep 01 16:13:20 +0100
   From: John Edward Graveling (kai21@dial.pipex.com>

Nanci did also say that, "I am in a phase of my life when I'm real 
outspoken and holding my tongue doesn't become me".

Guess she wanted to get her views off her chest.

John Graveling

// speaking her mind doesn't become her much, either...[BP]

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Subject: NN: Livingston Taylor
   Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 09:25:46 -0500
   From: "Holly Reames" (hbreames@hotmail.com>



>From Paul Larsen:  "As Livingston Taylor says (paraphrased), "If you really 
love the banjo, what songs shouldn't be played on it?""

I thought I was the only person in the whole world (!) who even knew about 
Livingston Taylor.  I actually heard him before James (his brother) when I 
was about 11 years old (am 43 now).  He *finally* came to Texas 2 years ago. 
 I got to meet and chat with him.  Really nice guy and endlessly 
entertaining.  He stopped in the middle of a whistling part in a song to say 
(also paraphrased), "I can't whistle with Holly out there smiling so big - 
makes me have to smile back."  A wonderful evening I will never forget.

Like some others, I'm holding back on my CWH opinions for a few more weeks.  
Predictably, some that I didn't like at all at first listen are taking shape 
in my head/heart with repeated playings.

As far as Patty Loveless and "Mountain Soul", I haven't quit humming "Daniel 
Prayed" in weeks!

'kay bye
Holly
(now playing...  vinyl of Kate Taylor (their sister) singing "Kite Woman" - 
love this song written by John David Souther)

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Subject: NN: RE: Livingston Taylor
   Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 10:59:39 -0400
   From: "Ken Stiffler" (ksmsc@kmsx.net>

>>I thought I was the only person in the whole world (!) who even knew about
Livingston Taylor.  I actually heard him before James (his brother) when I
((

Some of us even like listening to Liv a lot more than listening to James and
"endlessly entertaining" seems to me to be a perfect description.  :)

Ken
big fan of LT since I saw him open for someone, I forget who, maybe
Pousette-Dart Band, at the University of Pittsburgh at Johnstown gym in
about 1975 or so. An acoustic guitar instrumental version of Orleans' Dance
With Me was a good start.

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Subject: Re: NN: New Kasey Chambers
   Date: Sat, 1 Sep 01 16:10:26 +0100
   From: John Edward Graveling (kai21@dial.pipex.com>

According to the British press, although Kaesy Chambers new cd will be 
released next week in Australia, there is no release date yet set for 
either the U.K. or the U.S.A. That was also pointed out in the recent 
issue of ICE magazine, who are pretty good at forewarning folks of 
release dates.

Guess we will just have to wait and see what transpires. Could be rushed 
out, then again could be put on hold until they can schedule some dates, 
or the publicity machines whirl into action.

John Graveling

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Subject: NN: New Kasey Chambers
   Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 00:56:09 -0400
   From: Tony Cox (tonycox@pacific.net.au>

Kasey fans on the list may like to know that the new album
"Barricades & Brickwalls" is set for release next week in
Australia (not sure about the world-wide release date -
Bill?)  A brief quote from the only review I've read so far
(Revolver):

"There weren't enough superlatives to go round for Kasey's
award-winning debut, The Captain... So consider this:
Barricades & Brickwalls is even better".

As a point of interest, the track that referred to Vietnam,
mentioned on the NN recently, seems to be one of those
dreaded 'hidden' tracks, called 'Ignorance' (also on the
single), which, the review promises, "will cut you to
shreds".

Should be good.  Is it country, though? we'll all no doubt
be wanting to know before commiting our $$.  Well, the
review variously contains the words: 'heaviest, bluesiest
song she's ever recorded', 'beautiful ballad', 'punkiest',
'the right strut' and 'gospel'.  And the track I heard on
the radio today was country swing.  So, file under...
ermmm...oh look, perhaps just enjoy the music, right?

Tony - still fine, thanks.

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"She was the purdiest girl I ever seen
As she rolled her eyes and twirled my pink fur
dice."                                        Sawyer Brown

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Subject: NN: Re: A couple of recommendations.
   Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 01:48:16 EDT
   From: GregS2@aol.com

Tony wrote:

>But thanks for the mention of Sheryl Crow, coz that reminds me of another
>singer I heard compared to her recently, Lynn Miles. She's Canadian (I
>think), been around a while, and it sounds like she has a new record out,
>so I'm reminded to investigate. Anyone else recommend her?

Yes, I would recommend Lynn very highly! She's from Ontario; does have a new 
CD "Unravel" that is to be released sometime this month and is currently 
touring to support it. I think she's a very underappreciated songwriter with 
a beautiful voice. Do go see her if you get the chance. She's here in 
Portland at the St. John's Pub (great acoustic venue) on 9/28 & Seattle on 
9/29. Check her out at lynnmiles.com.

no, I'm not her agent,
Greg St. Martin

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