NanciNet Digest 9-17-01


// Couple of concert reports, some tickets available, and more.
// Enjoy!  [BP

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Subject: NN: Where would we be without Nanci?
   From: sascha@b-there.com
   Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 23:29:27 -0400

Here in Fairfield County, Connecticut, many of us work in NYC's financial
district & pretty much all of us have been directly affected by the horrific
events of this extraordinary week, and have been walking around in horror &
shock & anger like the rest of the country. 

Since we so very much needed a respite, a moment of grace, we were thrilled
& moved that Nanci was able to keep her date with us at the Eli Whitney Folk
Festival in nearby New Haven tonight. BMO capped a gorgeous clear & chilly
evening that also included the amazing Toshi Reagon & the incomparable Dave
von Ronk, both performing solo with acoustic guitars, and a candle-lit
freedom trail procession with whom we all had the chance to sing songs of
peace & freedom, America the Beautiful... A group of Jewish & Arab women
carried a banner: Jews & Arabs who Refuse to be Enemies. The procession's
long row of candles in glass boxes remained at the foot of the stage
throughout Nanci & BMO's closing set, creating a magical visual image. 

Before I post the set list, I must remember to tell you that we were treated
to a brief Nanci preview during DVR's set when she joined him for "He was a
friend of mine".

The set list was quite a bit different from any show I'd previously seen
(about a dozen in the past few years). Nanci mentioned she had a bad cold
but she was radiant and brought us much joy. We are very lucky. James seemed
particularly relaxed & played beautifully. The strings had a little trouble
staying in tune in the chilly air, but y'know what? Who cares?

Here it is --
Speed of the Sound of Loneliness
Trouble in these Fields
Two of a Kind Heart
These Days
Clock without Hands
>From a Distance (wherein we all clicked on the little flashlights one of
the
sponsors had given us. Nanci seemed quite moved by the vision of all those
lights)
I Lost Him in the Sun
It's a Hard Life
Gulf Coast Highway
Where would I be?
Traveling thru this Part of You
If I Had a Hammer (with Mike Younger, I believe Nanci said, as a guest
guitarist/singer)
Encore: Well, all Right

(I think that's correct...) 

Monday marks the start of the Jewish new year, and a season of reflection. I
have never been an observant Jew, and if I ever have had any religion, it
has been mainly inspired by his holiness the Dalai Lama, who says simply,
"my religion is kindness". This year, I will pray in the Jewish tradition
that we all may be blessed by a sweeter year, & that our hearts may be
filled with love & compassion as we try to contemplate what next.

Peace & love from Sascha 

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Subject: NN: Sunday's Northampton Performance
   From: Rob Stiene (rstiene@ix.netcom.com>
   Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 07:31:49 -0400

Just a quick note to say that Nanci's Northampton, MA performance 
last night was animated, in good humor, very fine, and seemed to do 
much to lift the spirits of many. Nanci complained of a cold, and her 
voice was a little weak, but she proved quite the trooper. The set 
list is as noted elsewhere, though she seemed to indicated that last 
night's performance of Armstrong was the first public performance of 
the song (thought I saw it on someone's list, though...).

I will say, though, that during her prologue to From A Distance -- 
and even during some parts of the song -- you could have heard a tear 
drop.

Rgds.

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Subject: NN: Nanci at Northampton
   From: "Michael Harrison" (miketeked@hotmail.com>
   Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 13:55:47 -0400

I was also in attendance at Nanci's concert in Northampton. I have seen her 
in concert a few times this year and her selection of songs was quite a bit 
different from the past. I can't remember them all, but it was the first 
time I had heard Armstrong live, & Two For The Road.
Mike Younger was on before her and he didn't seem like he wanted to be there

at all. I'm guessing he was very upset by the terrorism situation.
I do have a question for those of you in the business. I knew that Bette 
Midler's version of From A Distance was a big hit for her, but I didn't 
realize that Nanci had a huge success with it overseas FIVE years before. 
Can someone explain to me how Nanci missed out on that?

Michael in New Hampshire

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Subject: NN: Nanci Ticket Offer
   From: "Humphreys, Jennifer E." (jenniferh@metrouw.org>
   Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:07:06 -0400

NanciNetters -
2 Nanci Griffith tickets for sale.  Unfortunately, my husband and I had
planned to go and now are unable.  Here are the details: 
2 tickets @ GBP25-50 (will accept best offer)
For the North Wales Theatre Wednesday 17th October @ 8 pm 
If you are interested, please respond to my personal e-mail address
directly.  Hope some lucky person/couple can make use of these.   
Jennifer

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Subject: NN: September 15: Another day
   From: James Brock (jbrock@nyc.rr.com>
   Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 00:39:53 -0400

September 15. 2001

Last night I went to bed at two o'clock, watching the lightning illuminate
the sky. Huge flashes, followed, strangely, by no thunder. The rain was
lashing the ground; it has washed away many particles of what was once life,
be they the remains of a great building or a man or woman. I imagine the
essences of thousands of fellow New Yorkers (for live here, really here, for
a few weeks, and you begin to earn the right to call yourself a New Yorker)
draining into the Hudson River, flowing swiftly out to the Harbor, past
Liberty.

I went again to the Firehouse. I sat with some of the men, in their kitchen.
Just sitting, sharing their food. I think it makes them feel better. As I
was sitting there, an officer in a wheelchair rolled into the kitchen. He
had been crying, and in his hands were a small flag and a photograph. I did
not ask him about the photo.

Usually when people show me photographs, it is done with pride, or perhaps
explanation. I am sick with sadness at seeing photos of people I know are
dead. Names top the images, and under the images are telephone numbers and
phrases, such as "beauty mark on his left cheek" and "scar on his shoulder."
Last night Stephanie and I walked to Union Square, which has become a giant
memorial to this darkness. We took our candles and joined thousands of
others, in a square where years ago many fought for workers' rights. (And I
think of all the union members laboring downtown.) People from so many
places gathered, candles in hand. Tears all around. A man near us breaks
down, crying violently, doubled over. A teenager to my left says "He's
cracking up." I say, "No, he is grieving." A trumpeter, from somewhere in
the dimness, begins "Amazing Grace," slightly out of tune. The most moving
rendition I have heard.

We left the square and walked downtown. (Beyond the Arch in Washington
Square, on the horizon, the artificial light hovers over the scene of
destruction. The smoke rises still.) Circling the Arch is a metal fence; the
monument is under repair, for time and pollution have pockmarked the face of
this George, who stands twice here, once as a soldier, once as a statesman.
On the fence hang canvas drapes, placed there to serve as tablets for
thoughts. Stephanie and I read the words, some written in Spanish, some in
German, several in French. A simple representation of the Twin Towers,
obviously drawn by a child, catches my eye. Another sentiment, scrawled in a
messy hand: "No one F-cks with NYC." We walk to the next canvas; coming
toward me is a woman, 35 or so, red eyes, carrying another one of those
photographs/pieces of paper. She stops, stands next to me. I look at the
face in her hands; I see, on her other side, an older woman, her mother. The
face stares at me; he was born exactly one month after I was born. I ask "Is
that your brother?" She answers with excitement, "Yes, do you know him?" Her
eyes plead. I sink ... no, I just wanted to say I am sorry. I put my arms
around the women. Their tears sting.

This morning on NPR I hear an accent from down South; he tells Scott Simon
he is a spelunker, and he drove up yesterday, thinking his passion and
skills could be put to use. Planes overhead bring fear.

A New York Fire Department chaplain buried today in his brown robe (Jesuit),
with a fireman's helmet. He died while administering Last Rites to a
colleague. Chunks of metal rained down on his head. How much more can we
(all of us) bear? 

(How safe are our water supplies? (NYC gets its water from a huge system of
reservoirs upstate. We cannot guard the entire system.) Why was it legal to
take knives (4 inches or shorter) on airplanes until Wednesday? What is
happening with all the nuclear material in Russia? Authorities are
reportedly monitoring the air downtown for chemical and biological
compounds, such as smallpox and anthrax.)

James Brock
Manhattan 

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Subject: NN: Music's healing powers
   From: John Edward Graveling (kai21@dial.pipex.com>
   Date: Sun, 16 Sep 01 11:46:49 +0100

I have just finished listening to the new Lucy Kaplansky cd, "Every 
Single Day". It is a fine record and up there with "Ten Year Night". 
However, the closing track is an old favourite of mine, "The Angels 
Rejoiced" and it seemed so topical in this week of such human tragedy and 
suffering. If you haven't heard it, you are missing out on one of the 
finest songs ever written. It was written way back by the Louvin 
Brothers, but time has not diminished it's beauty.

John Graveling

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Subject: Re: NN: Music's healing powers
   From: Halesbop@aol.com
   Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 14:58:07 EDT

John wrote:

> I have just finished listening to the new Lucy Kaplansky cd, "Every 
> Single Day". It is a fine record and up there with "Ten Year Night". 
> However, the closing track is an old favourite of mine, "The Angels 
> Rejoiced" and it seemed so topical in this week of such human tragedy 

I agree, John, Lucy's is an excellent disc. And much more pleasing to these 
ears--top to bottom--than another much-discussed-here recent release by a 
female artist. Your post regarding "The Angels Rejoiced" has inspired me to 
pull out a recording of the Burns Sisters at the Ark on April 25 of this 
year, when not only did they sing a wonderful rendering of 'The Angels',
they 
opened with a powerful version of Steven Van Zandt's "I Am A Patriot".
Pretty 
chilling to hear today.

Steve,
  still kind of partial to Nicolette Larson's recording of 'Angels Rejoiced'

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Subject: NN: Just a Few More Insights from UK
   From: Ian R (100451.1006@compuserve.com>
   Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 07:21:01 -0400

Friends,

I wrote on Friday of some of the things that were happening here. I thought
you might value a few more insights.

On Friday as you may know we had a memorial service at St Paul's Cathedral
in London for all victims of the recent events. This was attended by the
Queen.

Our Queen has reigned for 49 years. 

One of the protocols is that the Queen never sings a National Anthem. We
have never seen her do that ever. On Friday we watched as she sang The Star
Spangled Banner.

In 49 years we have never seen the Queen cry a tear in public. On Friday we
watched as her eyes moistened during the service.

On a more mundane level I have never before seen so many neon signs .....
you know the kind outside business premises that show temperature, time and
a sales message ..... saying things like "God Bless America .... Our
Thoughts are with You."

I just thought you might like to know these few things and hope you might
feel comforted knowing how others are thinking.

Ian R

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Subject: NN: Re: Just a Few More Insights from UK
   From: "Maudeen" (maudeen@cablespeed.com>
   Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 09:59:02 -0700

Thank you, Ian for sharing that.   I told my husband this morning that I
don't know why I am not more emotional.   Yes, I have expressed anger, and
have shed a few tears, but I usually become unglued.   It may be that I am
still in shock like many Americans.   Mere words cannot express the array of
emotions that come over us.

We all cope in different ways.   For me it was to listen to music.  I ended
up putting several Celtic CDs on.  And then yesterday I went out and bought
a few CDs including the new Lucinda Williams, the Down from the Mountain CD
(a live CD featuring performers from O' Brother Where Art Thou), the tribute
to Mississippi John Hurt, and found in the used section a Tish Hinojosa and
the 1995 Kerrville CD.  Also ordered the Townes Van Zandt tribute and the
new Jennifer Warnes.

I'd be interested in hearing what music others have been listening to in
order to help them cope.

Maudeen

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Subject: NN: Re: Just a Few More Insights from UK
   Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 08:12:02 -0400
   From: Tony Cox (tonycox@pacific.net.au>

> I'd be interested in hearing what music others have been listening to in
> order to help them cope.

Yesterday I was selecting some favourites to play to a friend who was fairly
unfamiliar with 'our' type of music.  As we watched a video of the
Transatlantic
Sessions with Emmylou, Mary Black and Iris DeMent singing Wheels Of Love, we
let
ourselves become immersed in the sight and sound of these three beautiful
women
singing their beautiful hearts out: not just an antidote, but the antithesis
of
the extreme brutality of last Tuesday's events.

Tony

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Subject: NN: Listening
   From: Graham Shipley (gshipley@perioikos.u-net.com>
   Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 23:32:40 +0100

Maudeen wrote:

>I'd be interested in hearing what music others have been listening to in
>order to help them cope.

I had a very strange experience last Tuesday. For once I was working at
home. At 1.30 p.m., BBC Radio 4, our main national news and culture station
in the UK, repeated a half-hour program in a series about the history of
great songs. That day it was 'Over the Rainbow'. They finished with Eva
Cassidy's version. Hearing it unexpectedly, as when I first bought the CD a
couple of months back, reduced me to silent tears. (Okay, I was already
getting a cold; autumn has come sharp and early in England.) To me,
whatever she sings, there is something in her pure voice that expresses
everything about what it is to be human. And then I heard the first report
from New York at 2 p.m. UK time, 9 a.m. in New York . . .

Since then I've played my Eva Cassidy compilation a lot. I've also played
'Clock Without Hands', occasionally 'Pet Sounds', and Clearlake's intense
'Lido' album which seems to owe a lot to Brian Wilson. But Eva's, more than
any other music at the moment, makes me feel both wracked with sorrow yet
glad to be alive.

Graham

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Subject: NN: Re: Our British Friends
   From: RoanInish@aol.com
   Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 09:17:59 EDT

(( I suspect you will already have seen that the Queen ordered an alteration
to yesterday's Changing of the Guard ceremony at Buckingham Palace, which
included the playing of the US National Anthem. It was most moving. >>

Yes.  I saw this on our news here.  I have never been much for flag waving, 
and often overt displays of nationalism make me a mite uncomfortable.  But 
seeing this allowed me to cry for the very first time since the events of 
Tuesday.  I wasn't so much the anthem that did it, but the gesture.  Be you 
royalists or republicans, thank you to all our British friends.

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Subject: NN: Reference to "Enderby"
   From: "Mark Oland" (olandm@home.com>
   Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 14:38:09 -0400

I would appreciate it if someone would please explain the reference to
"Enderby" in "Shaking out the Snow" on CWH.

Thank you.

Mark

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Subject: RE: NN: Reference to "Enderby"
   From: kjohns2001usa@netscape.net
   Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:34:50 -0400

I am glad that I can answer this!  I was curious myself over her use of the
word 
Enderby...so I went and did a web search on it...and found, that it is a
place.
Enderby British Columbia...a vaction spot that you can visit.  Not only
visit, but 
stay at a bed and breakfast...I wonder if Nanci goes there often?  If so it
would be 
nice to visit and find her sharing your vaction spot!
Best,
DJ

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Subject: RE: NN: Reference to "Enderby"
   From: Reid Mitchell (reidmitchell@yahoo.com>
   Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 08:49:32 -0700 (PDT)

I think it's a different Enderby--since she says she'd
prefer Antarctica or the Land of Enderby, I don't
think that it's a traditional pleasant Enderby with
B&B's.  My bet is she's referring to Enderby Land,
which is on the fringes of Anarctica.  It may be
redundant to say both Enderby Land and Anartica, but
perhaps she found the phrase Enderby Land too
delicious to resist.

Reid Mitchell

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Subject: Re: NN: Listening
   From: Brimpls@aol.com
   Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 15:09:45 EDT

Dear NanciNet friends,

maudeen@cablespeed.com writes:

> I'd be interested in hearing what music others have been listening to in
> order to help them cope.

I have a few pieces of music which help me in the hardest times: First, 
Mozart's Clarinet Concerto in A Major, the slow movement of which was used
in 
the movie "Out of Africa".  I have a CD of the Mozart played by the Academy 
of St. Martin in the Fields, conducted by Sir Neville Marriner.  It is a 
beautiful CD and I turn to it often in days as awful as these have been.  
Beyond that, it's the human voice that helps, and the less adorned the 
better, so I guess I'd say that I'm drawn to anything simple and 
straightforward.  I have been listening to Tony Bennett, Kathy Mattea,
Alison 
Krauss, Shawn Colvin, Nanci... But probably the most healing music of all
was 
the singing together in our neighborhood the other night.

Good question, and I hope we are all finding comfort where we can, and
giving 
comfort where and when we are able.

Sabrina in Mpls.

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Subject: RE: NN: Listening
   From: Ron Hennessy (rhennesy@coserv.net>
   Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 19:26:37 -0500

Thanks Maudeen and Sabrina and others for sharing music to listen to in
these nation-wrenching times.

I've been mostly listening to classical (and Chuck Pyle, since I just
purchased his fine CD, "Keepin' Time by the River".)

While I was getting ready for church this morning, I played Robert Shaw's
recording of Brahms' "German Requiem."  It seemed a perfect prayerful
background to my feelings, as would the Requiems of Faure and Mozart.  (I
plan to purchase Haydn's "Mass in Time of War," which someone mentioned.  I
apologize for not mentioning the person's name, as I can't find the post.)

I sang in our church choir this morning.  At the end of the service, we sang
the "Battle Hymn of the Republic," which begins "Mine eyes have seen the
glory of the coming of the Lord," accompanied by organ and orchestra.  This
was in the place of the Postlude after the closing hymn.  Usually during
this time, the congregation wander out or stand around "visiting," as Texans
say.  Today they just stood and listened.  When we had finished the song,
they broke into spontaneous applause.  This was so unexpected and moving
that it brought tears to our eyes.

My prayers also for the mother of Shawn's friend Sonny.  Shawn, please keep
us posted.

Best to all,

Ron Hennessy

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Subject: Re: NN: Listening
   From: Sarah Wrightson (sarahwrightson@vincebell.com>
   Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:32:31 -0500

For me, older jazz...Miles Davis, Dave Brubeck Take Five...don't ask me why.

So much love to you all,
Sarah

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Subject: Re: NN: Listening
   From: "The Kimbros" (kimbroj@charter.net>
   Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 00:17:24 -0400

Hey gang -

Guess my last message was pretty much a bummer.  Sorry about that. I don't
have any answers in this mess. Despite 8 hours of thinking yesterday while
dragging a bush hog behind my old '48 John Deere, I just have a lot of
questions.  But I wanted to let you know that Sonny's mother is still
hanging in there even though the prognosis is poor.  For those of you who
don't know Sonny you can hear him on his brother Kenny Smith's album
"Studebaker," and on lots of other stuff including albums by Tricia
Yearwood, Martina McBride, and even Lee Greenwood.  His father is Carl
Smith, a well-known fiddler and member of the Grand Ol' Opry.

Now, on the lighter side, while we were out in the street singing Friday
night a dog wandered up and sat right down in the middle of our candle-lit
circle.  Later, when I took my fiddle outside to busk a little on the street
corner, the mutt sat beside me and watched me the entire time.  Odd looking
creature, spotted up like an aussie shepherd but looks more like
short-haired
border collie.  We asked around and the local folks said he was a stray.
He's sitting beside me now as I type this.  Couldn't resist loading him up
and bringing him home.

So it goes,
-Shawn

http://mountainsoul.cjb.net

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Subject: Re: NN: Listening
   From: lippert@pgh.nauticom.net
   Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 08:11:16 -0400 (EDT)

On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, The Kimbros wrote:

> Now, on the lighter side, while we were out in the street singing Friday
> night a dog wandered up and sat right down in the middle of our candle-lit
> circle.  
> He's sitting beside me now as I type this.  Couldn't resist loading him up
> and bringing him home.

I think you should name him "Tuesday".

kenn

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Subject: RE: NN: Listening
   From: "Ken Stiffler" (ksmsc@kmsx.net>
   Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 08:11:16 -0400 (EDT)


Maudeen wrote:
>>I'd be interested in hearing what music others have been listening to in
order to help them cope. ((

Been listening to instrumental harp music when I need to calm down. But I'd
been doing that even before this latest mess. The rest of the time these
last few days it's been Eddie From Ohio, Shawn Colvin's "Fat City" and Lynn
Miles's "Slightly Haunted". All of these have a fairly "light" or maybe
"bright" sound, at least instrumentally, if not lyrically. Soothing and
invigorating at the same time. I've also found myself picking up my guitar
more frequently.

And today I listened to Julie Miller's "Broken Things" and suspect I may
listen to that frequently in the coming days. But listening to that is
related more to some personal soul searching - heightened by the attack and
its aftermath, though not originally brought on by it.

I also dared to listen to Al Stewart's "Trains" today - a song that can
bring me down at the best of times. I'm not sure if I was looking for a
reminder that the world has passed through some dark times before and come
out the other side, or a reminder that the horror has been with us for a
long time - it didn't just start Tuesday. We, in this country, have just
managed to put it out of our minds for awhile. And now it's time to face up
to it again and try our best to beat it down. It strikes me as strange that
so much of the world has had to deal with terrorism for so long and now that
it's happened on American soil, our President stands up and says it's time
to build a coalition to destroy organized terrorism and the rest of the
world doesn't say "Where have YOU been all this time when WE were taking the
brunt of it?" They just jump in and give their support AND their sympathy.
(Thank you, all.) Maybe with U.S. leadership, there *is* hope for a
coalition of nations to eradicate organized terrorism.

For some reason, CWH has disappeared from my CD player. I'm sure it will
return, sooner or later.

Be strong, smart, and good out there, folks. And pray.

Ken

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Subject: NN: Listening
   From: DvBGardner@genelogic.com
   Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 15:26:35 -0400

>>I'd be interested in hearing what music others have been listening to in
order to help them cope. ((

Right now? From Georg Friedrich Haendel's "Theodora": "Angels Ever
Bright and Fair", preferably sung by Julianne Baird.

Donate

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Subject: Re: NN: Listening
   From: Anna McCalman (carwheels_2000@yahoo.com>
   Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:51:45 -0700 (PDT)

>I'd be interested in hearing what music others have
>been listening to in order to help them cope.

I think I'm gonna go home and take out that double CD
set from the Pete Seeger tribute 'Where Have All the
Flowers Gone?'  Seems to me to hit the spot right now.
I haven't listened to it in a long time.

For the most part, throughout this ordeal, I've mainly
wanted silence.  Maybe it was because I felt bombarded
by loud TVs and its cries of terror & disbelief &
continual plane crashes.  I must say that last night I
immersed myself in Emmylou and was quite comforted. 
The first song on the 'Cowgirl's Prayer' CD is a
favorite of mine as well as the first song on her 'Red
Dirt Girl.'

This past weekend I performed at a Scottish Festival
and snuck an Indigo Girls song in the mix :) --- the
'Wood Song'---I don't know if you've ever heard
it---beautiful!  

Here's my favorite verse:

No way construction of this tricky plan 
was built by other than a greater hand
with a love that passes 
all our understanding 
watching closely over the journey

but what it takes to cross the great divide 
seems like more than all the courage
I can muster up inside 
and we get to have the answers 
when we reach the other side
the prize is always worth the rocky ride.

Have a great day everybody!

AnnaMac

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Subject: Re: NN: Listening
   From: "Tara Ntella" (justabouttired@hotmail.com>
   Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 21:44:50 -0500

>I'd be interested in hearing what music others have been listening to in
>order to help them cope.

Creed, "One"

And also, this morning, listening to Clock Without Hands... and upon 
actually listening to the first verse of "Lost Him in the Sun" (I usually 
just come in on the second verse, belting it out)

"Any given day there's a jet flying somewhere
Oh we bought a ticket and vanished in the sky"

Seems sadly appropriate.  Gripped me when I first realized.

Also, lots of "Turn turn turn" and "Pachelbel's Canon".  And "Don't it make 
my brown eyes blue" (my mom used to play that song for me, it's a comfort 
song).

I have very eclectic taste.

Hope ya'll've enjoyed my foray out of lurkland

Tara took-me-21-years-to-understand Ntella

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Subject: Re: NN: Listening
   From: Poetmuse@aol.com
   Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 00:25:04 EDT

Right now the most popular picks on my cd changer seem to be Everything But 
The Girl's "Walking Wounded" (felt appropiate) and R.E.M.'s "Sweetness 
Follows" (gives me hope) and of course, Nanci in spades and hearts. 

I also suggest the band "Eddie from the Ohio"- the lead female singer's
voice 
is a dream and they have a great folky pop sound with an irrespible sense of

humor that shines through on every song. It's nice to be reminded to laugh 
these days. 

-christina

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Subject: NN: NY Terror
   From: JOHN10191@aol.com
   Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:38:39 EDT

After many years of just reading, it is time to post.  I am a 
Lieutenant in the New York City Police Department and I would like to add my

perspective to this horrible act of terrorism.  
       Tuesday was to be my first day back at work after a 3 week vacation, 
in which my wife and I adopted our second son.  I was scheduled to start
work 
at 5:30 PM.  I was still sleeping after a late night of taking care of the 
boys when my sister in law called and told us of the crash.  She lives
across 
the Hudson River and had watched in horror as the second plane struck the 
tower.  I got out of bed, turned on the TV and began to watch the 
unthinkable.  After a few minutes of being glued to the TV, I realized that
I 
had to get to the Precinct.  I was not even sure if I could cross at any of 
the bridges, but I managed to get there at about 10:30. The scene at the 
Precinct was chaos.  We had already sent 10 officers downtown (my precinct
is 
in the South Bronx) and they were asking for 10 more.  Everyone wanted to go

to help, but my Commanding Officer needed me to stay and run the patrol
force 
in the Precinct.  Thankfully, everyone from my pct returned safely, although

they were very close when the towers went down.  I stayed at work until 4:00

AM Wednesday morning, and was told to report back at 3 PM.  On Wed, I again 
asked to go to the scene but was placed on reserve by our Patrol Borough.  
       On Thursday, after working 2-18 hour tours, I was assigned to go to 
the site.  After about 8 hours of supervising a traffic post at 14th Street,

we were reassigned to the inner perimeter, and were about 2 blocks from 
"Ground Zero".  After 16 years of working in the toughest precincts in the 
South Bronx and Washington Heights, I was not prepared for what I saw.
Total 
and complete devastation. Words cannot begin to describe the scene.  The 
images on TV do not do justice to what it is like in person.  But what I can

describe is the reaction of people in the New York area, and others from all

over the country who rushed to NY to help. 
       As I arrived on Thursday afternoon people lined the streets to cheer 
the buses carrying the Police Officers, the Fire Fighters, the Con Ed
workers 
and the Iron Workers.  They held up signs and American Flags and waved.  It 
was very emotional.  People drove to the closest point they could get to and

unloaded donations of everything from medical supplies and bottled water to 
food and new clothes for the rescue workers.  The Salvation Army was 
overwhelmed, they could not handle all the donations. People came up to the 
Police Officers on the Traffic posts and shook their hands and thanked them.

The scene at Ground Zero was even more inspiring.  Rescue workers from
Police 
Departments, Fire Departments and EMT's from all over the country were
there, 
doing anything they could to help.  Home Depot and tool companies came with 
tractor trailers full of generators, jack hammers and saws.  McDonalds set
up 
a portable restaurant and hasn't stopped cooking yet.  
       I returned to scene again on Friday and was even more inspired by the

dedication of the rescue workers.  I will return on Monday and work the 
bucket brigade.         
       As of this writing, there are 23 of my brother and sister officers of

the New York City Police Department missing.  The New York Fire Department 
has over 200 missing men. One of my officers ran into a fireman he grew up 
with, knowing that his fire house was very close to the WTC.  He hugged him 
and all the fireman could say was that his entire battalion was missing, and

then he just walked away, back to his job. These men and women ran into the 
building to save lives, and most probably gave theirs.  I have always been 
proud to be a member of this great department, however, I believe this is
one 
of our Finest moments.  It is safe to say that every member of the NYPD
(over 
40,000) know at least 1 of the missing Police officers or FireFighters.  
Please keep them in your prayers.
       
God Bless the NYPD and FDNY
and God Bless America!!! 

John

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Subject: NN: Enderby
   From: kjohns2001usa@netscape.net
   Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:41:24 -0400

Uh...just found out, Enderby is also a village in England, in
Leicestershire.  
Look at www.blaby.net/enderby/

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Subject: NN: Nanci articles in Toronto papers
   From: "MVM" (mvmartel@home.com>
   Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 22:30:04 -0400

Hi NanciNetters.

Nanci was supposed to play in Toronto last Tuesday. As a prelude to that
show, the Globe and Mail ran an article on her newest CD Sep 10. As an
aside, I'd be happy if they rebooked the show into a different venue!

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/GIS.Servlets.HTMLTemplate?tf=tgam/sea
rch/tgam/SearchFullStory.html&cf=tgam/search/tgam/SearchFullStory.cfg&config
FileLoc=tgam/config&encoded_keywords=nanci+griffith&option=&start_row=1&curr
ent_row=1&start_row_offset1=&num_rows=1&search_results_start=1

This is the article that appeared in the Toronto Star Sep 6:

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Artic
le_Type1&c=Article&cid=999684698961&call_page=TS_News&call_pageid=9683321884
92&call_pagepath=News/News

The other Toronto paper, The Toronto Sun, wrote a review of CWH August 5,
commenting that it was a little overproduced. I don't have it yet; I was
going to try to pick it up at the show. Here it is.

http://www.canoe.ca/JamAlbumsG/griffith_nanci_clock-sun.html

I wonder when she'll be up this way.

Cheers,
Vicki

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Subject: NN: RE: Reference to "Enderby"
   From: "Ken Stiffler" (ksmsc@kmsx.net>
   Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 22:47:34 -0400

Mark wrote:
>>I would appreciate it if someone would please explain the reference to
"Enderby" in "Shaking out the Snow" on CWH.((

I've been assuming that Nanci is referring to the Enderby in Antarctica.
REAL cold.

Ken

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Subject: NN: Peace Memorial Quilt
   From: SierraSkyz@aol.com
   Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 22:43:13 EDT

Hello folks on the NanciNet, 

I am saddened by the news of the past week and have appreciated the words of
all who posted information and thoughts about the tragedy.  There was,
indeed, a Sikh murdered in a gas station in Phoenix and shots fired at
another in a station nearby. 

The posts from those of you in other countries to extend your sympathies has
been beautiful.  I can tell you that our country's children are asking "Does
ANYONE in the world like us?"  My students have few memories of tragedies
that shock us to the core.  They never watched the hundreds of nights of
"America Held Hostage" on Nightline, they have not seen athletes kidnapped
in Munich and murdered before the world's eyes.  Most of us have no memory
of Dresden and Hiroshima but that is what I picture when I hear talk of war.
The post about conditions in Afghanistan was heartbreaking to read, and
helps me understand how the powers that be got there. I cannot feel the kind
of hate that would destroy a country that is already in ruins. 

The images of the collapsing buildings is indelibly etched on our minds and
the published photographs of victims in happier times is indelibly etched in
our hearts.  The silenced lives, the shattered families, and decimated teams
of rescuers leaves a void we need to memorialize.   

I am only one person, what can I do? Our online group began with a shared
interest in one person.  We have branched into a community reaching many,
many people.  Here on NanciNet I have seen the power of the music to bring
people together in hard times.  We have used the music to soothe dying
patients in their last minutes, to raise money for medical procedures and
disease research, to forge friendships, and to raise awareness of social
causes such as landmines.   

My thought is to begin a project similar to the AIDS Quilt, where each
victim is remembered in a section which reflects the life of that person.
(There are over 44,000 3x6' sections in that quilt now, made by those who
lost loved ones). The goal is to memorialize the dead, celebrate their lives
and raise awareness of the tragedy that took them from us.  For those who
created panels, the experience brought them together with family and helped
them heal. 

Some of us have piecework heirlooms in our homes made by those now gone,
fabrics we knew from their dresses and shirts woven into the design. The
analogy of quilting is that waste bits are turned into beautiful treasures.
>From the rubble of the destroyed buildings in New York and Washington we
have to rebuild.  Peace-work. 

I am only one person, but I am ready to begin.  Your input would be
appreciated in several ways.  I don't have a lot of experience garnering
funding or tech support for endeavors such as this. Those who might have
participated in the NAMES project for the AIDS quilt can relate their
experiences with the foundation which handles it. 

If you can see the possibilities, please forward this message to others who
might be interested.   

Love always wins, 

Debra Meyer 
Phoenix, AZ 

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Subject: NN: New York Minute......
   From: DvBGardner@genelogic.com
   Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 11:17:28 -0400

Sabrina wrote: ((((( We decided to keep gathering every Friday night at
7 p.m. with our candles lit and our voices ready to sing, as long as it
takes...I like this idea very much.>>>>>

Sabrina -- in my neighborhood, we had decided the same. Actually, I've
been lighting candles on my front step every night since Friday. In
addition, last night, another neighborhood in my town organized a
candlelight vigil for the victims at our local lake. My daughter and I
were coming home from band practice -- it was overwhelmingly beautiful to
see so many strangers come together, the candle light reflecting on the
water. My daughter and I decided to join them. However, what we had
expected to be a "vigil for the victims" was really a political
rally...... someone had the speakers of his car blaring "When Johnny comes
marching home" and other war/marching songs. At closer look, many of the
people gathered had a candle in one hand, beer cans in the other, calling
out to cars driving by to honk their horns.  This is not what we think
a vigil should be about, so we got out of there as quickly as we could,
before anyone would identify us..... :).
Everyone has to deal with these events in their own way and we have to be
respectful of their reactions..... even if we don't agree.  We spent so
much time this weekend involved in peace prayers, peace music, etc.
The calls for war are understandable but make us cringe.  Just don't
mislabel a patriotic rally by the name of a "candlelight vigil".

I'm glad Gordon and others are posting their stories of the ongoing
muslim-bashing...we need to make everyone aware of this ignorance in
our midst. My friend's neighbors are muslims, who went shopping on
Wednesday or Thursday and were approached by a group of "white" Americans.
The men asked the couple if they thought it was a good idea to come out of
their homes right now and show their faces. The husband simply asked the
men if they went into hiding in their houses after Tim McVeigh had bombed
the Oklahoma City building. This is something we all need to keep in
mind...

Being German-born and raised, I have on occasion met people who immediately
think I must be a white supremacist or Nazi...everyone who knows my
life's work and philosophies has been laughing about these incidents, but
it does happen. There are a lot of unenlightened and ignorant people out
there. Most of them, however, we could educate by reaching out instead
of just shaking our heads and turning away. As Sabrina said--it needs
to start within our own communities and spread outward.  We made a point
to go and visit an Iranian neighbor; we made a point to sit next to an
Indian/Pakistani guy on the metro and strike up a conversation. Only
with gestures like this can we at the very least get others to pause and
think...

My family in Germany is very worried since several of the hijackers were
living in Germany. The student communities in European universities are
generally much more politically aware and active than over here...it
could be so much easier for such factions to gain foot and be tolerated
there. Very, very scary.

Think peace!
Donate

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Subject: NN: Nanci date for Toronto!
   From: "Plumcake" (plumcake@home.com>
   Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 12:10:04 -0400

Hi to all,

I just joined the list this weekend after finding out about it from 
Nanci's web site.  I was trying to find out if there is a new date for 
her Toronto concert, which was postponed from Tuesday night.  I live in 
Kitchener (60 miles away) and drove to Toronto on Tuesday and the venue 
was closed, and a poster said the show was cancelled.  I didn't really 
feel like going to a concert, but we have waiting for Nanci to play 
Toronto for along time.  She was here in December on the Concerts for a 
Landmine Free World Tour, and I asked her why she hadn't been to 
Toronto, on her own, and she said she would soon. 

Has anybody heard of a new date?  I also agree with Vicki, I hope they 
change the venue too!

My heart is heavy with sympathy for all of you south of our border, and 
anyone else who was affected by Tuesdays events.  I only hope that we in 
Canada will do all we can to help.

Dan
plumcake@home.com

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Subject: NN: Quilt and Music
   From: DvBGardner@genelogic.com
   Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 13:54:29 -0400

Debra wrote: ((My thought is to begin a project similar to the AIDS
Quilt, where each victim is remembered in a section which reflects 
the life of that person.>>

Debra, what a wonderful thought. Although it's been decades since I've
sewn anything, I'd be up for participating in this project. I always
knew there was a reason I kept a trunk full of materials from the old
country in my attic... :)  I absolutely love the idea!!!
Another project I wanted to suggest perhaps is to get all the musicians,
writers and songwriters among us to work on a compilation CD with songs,
poems or essays we could write about this tragedy. I found myself
writing two songs and one poem already since last Tuesday...
Since UPO3 never came to fruition, this might be a project we all could
pull our resources together for?  As we discussed last year re: UPO3, we
all have even better resources now with sending music files back and forth
via internet -- lots of potential for collaborations across the oceans.
If anyone is interested, let me know.  A quilt, a CD ...... any other
ideas out there? Since nancinetters are supposedly the nicest folks on
the internet, there just has to be a wealth of good ideas and intentions
out there.

Peace,
Donate

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Subject: NN: RE: Quilt and Music
   From: "Ken Stiffler" (ksmsc@kmsx.net>
   Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 18:37:06 -0400

Donate wrote:
>>Since nancinetters are supposedly the nicest folks on
the internet, ((

Hey, what do you mean "supposedly"??   :)   
These ARE the nicest folks on the net.

Ken
OK, yeah, I know there have been a few squabbles. But, still. . .


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Subject: NN: RE: Nanci at Northampton
   From: "Ken Stiffler" (ksmsc@kmsx.net>
   Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 19:03:39 -0400

Michael wrote:
>>I do have a question for those of you in the business. I knew that Bette
Midler's version of From A Distance was a big hit for her, but I didn't
realize that Nanci had a huge success with it overseas FIVE years before.
Can someone explain to me how Nanci missed out on that?
((

Nanci didn't release her version while our troops were overseas. And the
record company people have had this idea in their heads that Nanci's voice
is not radio friendly, so they don't promote her to a wide audience.

Think about that for a minute. There was a period of time there in the late
80s, around when Nitty Gritty Dirt Band released Will The Circle Be Unbroken
II, that bluegrass-ish music (or at least stripped-down acoustic music) was
somewhat popular in Nashville. By that time, Nanci had come under the
guidance/control/influence/whatever-you-want-to-call-it of Tony Brown and
was being guided into a more main-stream Country sound. Seems like a CD
during that time with a more OIAVBM or LOTTB sound would have had a good
chance at being a hit.

Not that I'm complaining about the CDs produced by Tony Brown. I love LSSOM
and LLA. There are some great songs there, including From A Distance, though
that's not one of my personal favorites. And Storms, not produced by Tony
Brown, but a step even closer to mainstream. . . uh. . . whatever, and
released during that same timeframe, contains my favorite Nanci song - I
Don't Wanna Talk About Love.


Ken
No, I'm not in the business. But, I'm promoting my opinions, anyway.

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