// Sundry comments...
// Enjoy...[BP]

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Subject: NN: Toronto concert officially cancelled :( 
   From: "MVM" (mvmartel@rogers.com> 
   Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 11:30:20 -0400 

Sept 11, 2001 Miss Nanci was booked to play a House of Blues concert in
Toronto. It was cancelled, for obvious reasons. I was given the option of a
refund or holding the tickets for the rescheduled show. I just got a call
from TicketMonster that the show has been officially cancelled. I'm
officially bummed, especially with Winter Marquee as a good excuse for
booking shows. 
*sigh*
Vicki (feeling neglected near Toronto) Martel

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Subject: NN: Shoddy quality on "audiophile DAD/DVD" LOTTB 
   From: "Lenox Brassell" (lhbrassell-REMOVESPAM@yahoo.com> 
   Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 12:12:01 -0700 

My purchase of the audiophile "DAD/DVD" of Last of the True Believers
arrived last week. Much of the disc sounds beautiful on my DVD player, but I
am disappointed. Whatever data on the disc that is used to point to the
beginning of tracks is off by a second or so for "St. Olav's Gate" and "The
Wing and the Wheel". Although they are asking a premium price for what is
billed as a premium product, I might be able to live with the problems,
except for two things. First, my "reverse within track" and "fast forward
within track" buttons on my DVD remote have no effect on this DVD, so I
cannot "fix" the problems myself during playback. Second, there is a
discontinuity (quarter second silence) during playback of the fadeout of
"Love at the Five and Dime" (the track before St. Olav's Gate") and again at
the intro of "The Wing and the Wheel."

I find this highly ironic, given that the company's motto seems to be,
"Remember the sound."

Email to the company (at info@classicrecords.com) to complain about this was
never delivered due to "PERMANENT fatal delivery errors."

Others on this list have already noted the misspellings of "Nanci" and some
of the song titles. Has anyone else had a better experience with this
product than I have?

Regards,
-Lenox

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Subject: NN: Re: Winter Marquee  
   From: SJLOU812@aol.com 
   Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 22:54:35 EDT  

Hello group. 
OK...I'll say it, and I am just as big a nanci fan as any of you (drove from
Chicago to Knoxville for the show....sat front row center)...I am
disappointed in the DVD. Yes it sounds great, and its wonderful to finally
have a Nanci DVD out...but that DVD does not represent how the show was that
night and I don't think the filming was all that professional. I have seen
much better quality live show DVD's than this. As for the content...they cut
out much of her ramblings in between songs and even some jokes she made. She
joked about Janet Jackson, she joked with around w/ James Hooker, and had
many other Nanci moments on stage that were left out (at least they left in
the part where she winked at me). To me a live concert is not about the
music, its about the show.  The show supplements the music and in turn gives
you a whole new perspective of the artist and their music that one so
enjoys. Don't get me wrong, I very much enjoy having the dvd, I just don't
thing it does nanci justice or shows what a nanci show is really like. In
addition, they cut out all the good in-between material...and if my memory
serves me right...the order of the songs on the dvd was not the order they
were played that night...I will have to check the order against my (Nanci's)
setlist. Anyways, not complaining...she's still the best...just simply
stating my point of view.  Thanx, Steve 

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Subject: NN: New albums 
   From: Folkygirl@aol.com 
   Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 03:25:44 EDT 

Hi,
They may have been mentioned before, but I wanted to recommend a few albums
- the recent Guy Clark release: "The Dark," is excellent! I can't get enough
of it - some of the writing on there is tremendous.

Then there's a release from earlier this year: Eliza Gilkyson's "Lost and
Found." I believe it's her best album to date and I don't think it can be
plugged enough! 

Also, Tom Russell has a 'new' release, it's a collection of rarities,
available only through his website... I don't have it yet, but I think it's
going to be good - if anyone's seen him live recently it has the very cool
new song: "The Dogs Bark But The Caravan Moves On" on it - I imagine it's
worth getting for just that track and "Sonny's Dinner!!"

Emily 

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Subject: NN: RE: Toronto concert officially cancelled :( 
   From: "Robert" (rboucher@nexicom.net> 
   Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 06:36:03 -0400 

Nice to see another nanccinut hung in there as long as we did up here in
Peterborough after I hope not going through what happened to us that day .I
was working midnights and booked off my last precious day of holidays...I
was woke from my broken sleep ( pumped for the show ) at noon by our son who
filled us in on the trade center problems and the closing of the business
area of TORONTO due to what was happening. The concert at the PHOENIX is
only a few blocks east of there and things did not look good with word of
planes being grounded but planes in the air being directed to CANADA from
the US!

We phoned the theatre and they didn't know if NANCI was still on but we
decided to drive to the east side of TORONTO and phone again knowing it
would be a very subdued show at best. As you all know we drove 85 miles for
nothing and back home again. 

To get a refund after a promise by NANCI of a remake show, Vickey, a few
days later which turned into a year plus is insulting and why was the
theatre not called until 3p.m. that day as I hope our good friend SARAH
WRIGHT might find out for us up here in CANADA some day and let NANCI know
how we have been left out in the cold .
                               Rob boucher  AKA- NANCCINUT

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Subject: Re: NN: "audiophile DAD/DVD" LOTTB 
   From: "Mike Chesman" (chesman@preferred.com> 
   Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 00:32:51 -0400 

At 12:12 PM 10/10/02 -0700, Lenox wrote:
>My purchase of the audiophile "DAD/DVD" of Last of the True Believers
>arrived last week. Much of the disc sounds beautiful on my DVD player, but 
>I am disappointed. Whatever data on the disc that is used to point to the
>beginning of tracks is off by a second or so for "St. Olav's Gate" and 
>"The Wing and the Wheel". 

I don't have the problem you describe on my Pioneer DVD player on St. Olav's
Gate.  There is one bass note cut off the intro of Wing and The Wheel when
you access the cut directly which is a stupid mistake but does not sound
bad. This is not a problem on a straight playing of the disc.  All other
songs begin after the start of each chapter selection as it should be. 

You are correct that you cannot scan forward or back...which I believe is a
concession to the high sampling rate audio format.  Remember this is a
different format from a video DVD.

I don't hear any of that discontinuity (quarter second silence) you complain
about on the fade out to two tracks.

I think the disc is a fine audiophile mastering but I will agree with you on
that one indexing error on WATW.

Mike

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Subject: NN: Winter Marquee and more 
   Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 13:44:25 -0400 
   From: "Tony Cox" (tonycox@pacific.net.au> 

Hello Griffsters,

Just over a week ago my Christmas came early when I received
a package from Village Records containing the following DVDs

Nanci - Winter Marquee
Steve Earle - Transcendental Blues Live
Cowboy Junkies - Open Road

As if that wasn't enough excitement for one day, I also
picked up a copy locally of the Ani Difranco DVD.

All of them contain recent live concert footage in the main,
so I was up for a BIG festival-style session in front of my
beloved sound system and TV screen.  With hands a-quiver and
heart a-flutter, I slipped in the first DVD and sat back in
a (somewhat artificially enhanced;)) state of rapturous
indulgence.  One by one I sat in awe as performance after
fantastic performance revealed itself in all its power and
glory.  I'd decided to leave Nanci to last, imagining that
this would be the climax of my mind-blowing experience.

I'm sorry to say that my first impression was
disappointment.  "Speed Of The Sound..." just didn't do it
for me.  In fact, it sounded...well, bland, to be honest,
and the band came across as professional but uninvolved,
even stern.  It used to be a maxim of the music scene that
"nobody performs Dylan like Dylan", and I think the same
could be said of John Prine.  He's not exactly one of my
favourites, but I can see the virtue of his wistful vocal
style in the type of songs he writes.  The voice and the
music and the words just go together.  In Nanci and the
BMO's hands it now sounds to me like a middle-of-the-road
song of no consequence.  And some of the next few songs did
nothing to involve me any further - in fact her version of
"Boots..." had me yawning and reaching for the fast-forward
button.  Again, a bland sinagalong compared with the
original, IMO.  And at this point I have to confess that
"Mary Margaret" more often than not misses the mark for me
as well - it can sound a bit too twee and laboured for my
liking.

OK, that's the flammable part of my review oot of the way!
>From around track 6 in I started to get involved in a  big
way.  Perhaps it was because the band loosened up, or
perhaps it was the step-up in enthusiasm and creativity in
the way Nanci approached some of the new material, but
before long I was loving the show as much as anything she's
ever done.  All the songs from "Clock.." were performed
beautifully and with genuine passion, as was "Goodnight New
York" with Emmylou, "The Flyer" and some of the older
favourites.  By the time that "White Freight Liner" had
Knoxville rockin', I too was having my socks knocked off by
Nanci's brilliance and versatility.  As a performer she's a
real trooper, and has the presence and the repertoire to get
any audience loving her by the end of a show.  Hats off to
Nance, say I!

As for the other DVDs I mentioned - buy any or all of them
and you're in for a feast.  Ani Difranco is surely one of
the most impressive and original singer-songwriters around,
and she performs with a passion and energy that is
awe-inspiring.  The Cowboy Junkies' DVD also *way* exceeded
my expectations - I was only a moderate fan before, but with
the four hours of music you get with this package there is
plenty to impress and involve.  And not just musically -
Margo Timmins is now near the top of my list of sexy
rock-chicks (!)

Of the eight hours or so of music on these four wonderful
DVDs, the one song that really left me with goose bumps and a
stifled sob at the end at the sheer wonder of it was the
acoustic duet version of "Sun Comes Up It's Tuesday
Morning".  Out of this world.

And now, very much back *in* this world, I'm off to where
the sun always shines for a two week holiday, with a CD case
full of about 20 of my favourite CDs for the long road-trip
ahead.  Life is just SO good sometimes.

Tony

n/p (a lot):  "Phoenix" by the hugely talented Vince Bell.

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Subject: NN: Winter Marquee DVD 
   From: Mtwoodward@aol.com 
   Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 09:08:38 EDT 

As many of you may have guessed from my posts, I live in the Washington, DC
area.  The last 10 days have been a true nightmare of sniper-shootings.  I
don't know if I can give you a sense of what it's like to live here now --
my kids haven't had a real recess at school for almost two weeks.  A couple
of times, like prisoners in a cellblock, they've been allowed outside on a
small patch of protected blacktop.  When their ten minutes or so is up they
are hustled back inside and another group takes their place.  My 9 year old
scans the horizon like an experienced Secret Service agent before getting
his little sister into the car. Then, he slinks down in his seat so his head
is below the window line.  His first words to me after a day at school?  "It
happened again, didn't it?"  The 6 year old is more blithe.  She happily
reports that they had crafts time instead of PE because of the "shooter".
Baseball, soccer, football -- games and practices -- all cancelled.  Chess
club, Girl Scouts, Boy Scouts -- cancelled.  The streets, stores and
restaurants are nearly empty.  No one is putting gas in the car. Of course,
if you don't leave your house you don't need any gas, which is my strategy.
The incessant drumbeat of the media coverage is enough to make you mad, so
the TV is tuned to the Disney channel and the radio is off.  Coupled with
this is our awareness that war with Iraq may come soon, al-Qaida is afoot
and fighter jets still maintain combat air patrol in our skies.

Into this madness comes the "Winter Marquee" DVD.  After an emotionally
exhausting day yesterday, I popped the DVD into the player and settled back
for some escapism.  Complain all you want about technical issues, production
values and lighting.  That DVD was just the tonic for me last night.  When
Nanci got choked up on "Good Night New York", so did I.  When she shed tears
at "Traveling Thru This Part of You", so did I.  When she sang, "What's That
I Hear?" I was also hoping for freedom.  In the "kids say the darndest
things" portion of this report, my son asked why Nanci didn't sing "I Live
On A Battlefield".  Of course, I realized that he feels as though he lives
on a battlefield these days, so I agreed it's a fine song and pulled him
closer.

This is what I want from our creators, poets, painters, thinkers and
dreamers.  For whatever period of time, I want to get into their mind and
out of mine.  And maybe experience a different type of life, a different
type of world.  Thank the lord for Nanci Griffith and the rest of the
brilliant people who give me that chance.

-- Michele "hell in an hand basket" Woodward

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Subject: NN: RE: Winter Marquee DVD 
   From: "Ken Stiffler" (ksmsc@kmsx.net> 
   Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 18:08:13 -0400 

Michele "hell in an hand basket" Woodward wrote:
>>A couple of times, like prisoners in a cellblock, they've been allowed
outside on a small patch of protected blacktop.(snip> My 9 year old scans
the horizon like an experienced Secret Service agent before getting his
little sister into the car. Then, he slinks down in his seat so his head is
below the window line. (snip> Baseball, soccer, football -- games and
practices -- all cancelled. Chess club, Girl Scouts, Boy Scouts --
cancelled.  (snip> The incessant drumbeat of the media coverage is enough to
make you mad, (snip> Of course, I realized that he feels as though he lives
on a battlefield these days, so I agreed it's a fine song and pulled him
closer. ((

This is so horrible.

How many people died in the Washington DC metro area during this timeframe?
How many died just on the highways? What are the chances that you (generic
you) or one of your loved ones will be a victim of the shooter? By
comparison, what are the chances that you (generic, again) or one of your
loved ones will die by some other cause, possibly simply by driving on the
highway?

We get so wrapped up in whatever is "the news" at the moment. And "the news"
becomes more *hype* every day. Gotta sell those newspapers and get those
ratings so more advertising money comes in.

We forget anything like putting specific events into the context of ongoing
life.

It is horrible that someone is going around shooting people. It is a
terrible shame that people are dying in this manner. But what is, to me,
even more horrible and a bigger shame is that we are traumatizing ourselves,
our children, and each other, over what are, after all, events that have a
limited *real* impact. Or, *would* have only a limited real impact *IF* we
did not blow them all out of proportion to the underlying reality.

You (these are all generic "you" - I'm not singling out or attacking
Michelle here - you (Michelle) and we all are victims to this madness) may
die walking across the street tomorrow. Sniper or no sniper. Barring a true
epidemic of some sort (murder, disease, whatever), with thousands dying
daily, we should all just go on with our lives and take our chances. After
all, we take our chances every day, anyway. And I'll even add a :) to that
statement! I'm happy to take my chances every day, because I'm happy to be
alive every day.

The trauma and the fear do far more damage, both to individuals and to our
society as a whole, than (most often) the actions that generate that fear
and trauma could possibly do. 

We are lemmings to the role that fear plays in our lives.


Ken "hates being a lemming, even while being one" Stiffler

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Subject: Re: NN: RE: Winter Marquee DVD 
   From: Mtwoodward@aol.com 
   Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 20:01:11 EDT 

ksmsc@kmsx.net writes:

> We are lemmings to the role that fear plays in our lives.

I think there is a thin line between being fearful and being cautious.  I
agree that I could be hit by a bus tomorrow -- we don't know how or when our
lives will end, do we?  In my life people have died in car crashes, from
illness, old age, even in freak accidents.  These are kind of "expected"
ways to die.  Believe me, in Washington, DC, gang-related deaths and
drug-related deaths are expected, too.  But the randomness, the sheer
out-of-the-ordinariness, of sniper attacks in my city are so unexpected, so
unbelievable, it has knocked us all off our pins.  And, that's what makes it
such a compelling media story, too.  The trick, I think, is not to be
fearful, but to be cautious -- to understand potential danger and to not put
yourself in harm's way.  That's true whether driving a car, spelunking or
handling raw chicken.  It's also true when a sniper shoots 10 people in your
community.  

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Subject: NN: DC Sniper (was Winter Marquee DVD, but now NNC) 
   From: "Ken Stiffler" (ksmsc@kmsx.net> 
   Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 21:38:07 -0400 

>>The trick, I think, is not to be fearful, but to be cautious((

I agree 100 percent, Michelle. And I'm not one to take crazy risks. In many
ways, I'm a very timid person.

But what I'm reading in the Washington Post - e.g. cancelled SAT tests,
along with things that you wrote, e.g. "A couple of times, like prisoners in
a cellblock, they've been allowed outside on a small patch of protected
blacktop" sound to me very much like an atmosphere of fear.

The real reason I replied in the first place is because I see this as part
of a pattern for how we, in this country especially, are changing the way we
live our lives - reacting to events that, while serious in their specific
consequences, are exploited by the news media and projected into all of our
individual lives as if the consequences were equal to all of us. And I think
this "fear-mongering" harms us all in the long run.

For a more absurd example, there is even a recommendation that, if you are
in a parking lot at night, keep to the shadowed, darker areas - to present a
more difficult target for the sniper. Muggers and rapists: Rejoice!

For myself, if I were to hear that experts were projecting that the next
attack would be in a specific location at a specific time, I would not head
to that location in hopes of watching the killer being apprehended and, as a
side effect, see my own chances of becoming the next victim grow
astronomically greater than they would be otherwise. Or, if I was already
planning on being there at that time for some reason, I might change my
plans. To me, that's caution.

On the other hand (and more realistic), I may be making a trip from Virginia
Beach to Frederick early this coming week and, if I feel a need to stop at
the rest area along 95 south of the Beltway, I'll stop. I don't see my
chances of dying at that rest stop all that different as from a car crash as
I drive through the 95/495 interchange. May happen. May not happen. I'm
simply not going to worry about it. I have far too many other things to
worry about. :)

I just think the entire situation is sad in all respects.


Ken


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Subject: NN: Eddie from Ohio (no nanci content) 
   From: "Lorrie Chase" (lchase@webshoppe.net> 
   Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 21:05:07 -0500 

I saw the band Eddie from Ohio (from Virginia) at a local club.  I was
wondering if anyone was familiar with them and if so I'd like to know what
you think.

I bought two cd's (not uncommon for me at a live performance) but I'll
reserve my "review" until I hear from a couple of you!

Lorrie "from Alabama, really." Chase


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Subject: NN: Re: Eddie from Ohio (no nanci content) 
   From: "MVM" (mvmartel@rogers.com> 
   Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 22:49:28 -0400 

> I saw the band Eddie from Ohio (from Virginia) at a local club. 
> I was wondering if anyone was familiar with them and if so I'd like 
> to know what you think.
>

Love 'em completely! We borrowed a friend's SUV with room for 7 CDs for
(Canadian) Thanksgiving. We just got home, after driving about 22 hours over
3 days, with EFO CDs in ALL the CD slots. My kids love 'em too. A friend of
mine and I are going to Ann Arbor to see them in February (over 6 hours each
way).

Yes, my name is Vicki, and I am an EdHead.

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Subject: NN: RE: Eddie from Ohio (no nanci content) 
   From: "Ken Stiffler" (ksmsc@kmsx.net> 
   Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 00:20:02 -0400 

Lorrie "from Alabama, really." Chase wrote:
>>I saw the band Eddie from Ohio (from Virginia) at a local club.  I was
wondering if anyone was familiar with them and if so I'd like to know what
you think.
((

They're Great!

Just discovered them less than two years ago, based on recommendations from
Kennedys/Nields fans, along with remembering a long ago mention or two here
on NanciNet. The first CD I got was "Actually Not". Almost two years later
and it has been a very very very rare occasion that the song "Three Fine
Daughters of Farmer Brown" has played only once, without me hitting the
repeat button. And I've played that CD a LOT.

The vocal harmonies are spectacular. The songs are strong. I like their
humour. I really like Robbie's guitar style. And they put on an entertaining
live performance. What more can you ask for?  :)

All of their CDs have good songs, but I still especially like "Actually
Not". I think the first 9 songs on Actually Not are as strong a set of 9
songs in sequence as on any recording I can think of. And the a cappella
opening to "North Pacific Rain" ("The summer Elvis died, and we slept
outside") makes a great alarm clock - if you *have* to endure an alarm
clock.


Ken "not a morning person" Stiffler

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Subject: NN: Winter Marquee and EFO 
   Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 13:38:05 -0700 
   From: "Susan Peete" (suepeete@cruzio.com> 

I bought Nanci's new CD (and DVD) the day it was released but couldn't get
beyond Two For The Road. I slammed my hand against the off button and cried
harder than I think I have in my life time. Bill was so much looking forward
to Nanci finally having a DVD out. It was only until last night that I
finally made it through the entire DVD. I loved it and I know Bill would
have, as well. I love the live "Two For The Road" even more then the studio
version and I didn't think that was possible. It's beautiful. I would say
this is my favorite album since Flyer. I found the new take on the song
Flyer very interesting...

   God bless our Flyers
   Who would be flying home tonight 
   I would give anything 
   To see those flyers, flyin' in the night.

I have been playing the CD non-stop all morning, over and over again. I'm
finding a lot of comfort and enjoyment from it now. "What's That I Hear"
makes me feel good inside.

I want to thank everyone for checking in on me. It means a lot. I know I'm
real bad at replying but I think about all of you a great deal. It has been
a real comfort to hear from all my friends out in the madness.

I'm doing OK. As reality sinks in a little more each day and I miss him
dearly, I still see his smile that seemed to go on forever. That smile is
what lives on.

I try to find some comfort in knowing Bill died doing what he loved to do. I
couldn't say that if he was shot down by a sniper. Life and death is all so
mysterious. Like how Bill and Dave Carter had the same birthday "August 13"
and died a day apart, Bill on July 18th and Dave on July 19. 

Bill was one of the folks on this list that raved about Eddie From Ohio. A
friend of ours (Jim) came up to me at Bill's funeral and mention how he felt
bad that he never made it to a EFO concert even after Bill suggested it many
times to him. Jim said the next time that EFO comes to town, he's going.
Well that turns out to be Oct 26. I'll be there, as well. EFO is one band
that you have to see in concert. Their last album "Quick" is my least
favorite but it's still good. Can't go wrong with any of them.

Y'all keep smiling, That's one thing everyone remembers of you.

Sue "And, I would give anything to have that flyer for my own" Peete

  "And from now on, until forever
   Until forever comes and goes
   I know where I will always find you
   In my heart, You Are Here...
   In my heart, You Are Here"
        --- by singer-songwriter David Olney


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Subject: Re: NN: Eddie from Ohio (no nanci content) 
   From: DvBGardner@genelogic.com 
   Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 10:22:21 -0400 


EFO are a great band.   There was one time when they were scheduled to play
at the same festival in Virginia that my band was playing at..... alas, they
played somewhere else.   That's as close as I ever came to meeting them in
person.     They've been around for a while.   I'll be glad to share more
with you when my life settles down a bit.   My father-in-law passed away
very suddenly this past weekend and I'll be on the road most of this week.

Ducking to avoid the sniper -- he's been too close to home.   One of my
daughters works on the Pike in Rockville, the other attends the college
campus along that road.   We got stuck in the road block situation last
night, here in Washington, D.C. 

Greetings to everyone -- take care of each other and your loved ones!

Life's short!

Donate


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Subject: NN: Listen to the Radio 
   Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 08:32:10 -0700 (PDT) 
   From: "Bill Page" (bpage3@yahoo.com> 


The following has only minimal Nanci content, sort of a
"nanci-number 1" connotation...

Last Sunday, on NPR's "Weekend Edition -- Sunday," Brian Naylor
interviewed Kim Richey. This link will take you to the archive
for that day's show:

http://search.npr.org/cf/cmn/cmnpd01fm.cfm?prgID=10&prgDate=10/13/2002

Then yesterday, on NPR's "All Things Considered," Jacki Lyden
had an extended conversation with Paddy Moloney of The
Chieftains, regarding the release of their TWO new CDs, "The
Wide World Over" and "Down the Old Plank Road." If you're a
Gaelic speaker, you may enjoy the few moments of Paddy and Jacki
discussing in that language:

http://search.npr.org/cf/cmn/cmnpd01fm.cfm?PrgDate=10/14/2002&PrgID=2


Bill "I listen regularly" Page

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