// Sorry for the delay in the digest...I have been fighting a 
// heckuva cold. Enjoy...[BP]

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Subject: NN: Annual Holiday Music Exchange 
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 22:21:21 -0800 
From: "Susan Peete"  


I thought, in memory of Bill Peete, we would carry on the tradition for him.

For each of the last seven years, Bill organized a "Holiday Tape/CDR
Exchange" that turned out to be a lot of fun. It's a great way to be
introduced to some wonderful music by artists that you may not be familiar
with. It's also a nice way to get to know fellow Nancinetters through their
musical interests.

I thought we would start a little earlier this year to allow for more time
to get the recordings out before the holidays are over.

If you'd like to participate this year, reply to this message, by Friday
November 22, 2002. When replying, please send a private e-mail to
suepeete@cruzio.com so we don't clutter up the list (NanciNet). A simple "I
want in" is sufficient. I will confirm your entry by replying with a simple
"you're in". Then you will need to record a tape/CDR of some of your
favorite *NON* Nanci tunes.

As in previous years, I will toss all the participants names into Bill's NG
"Flyer" hat and will draw names to determine who gets who's tape/CDR.
Witnesses will be present. Within a few days, of November 22, I'll post one
public message that tells you who to send your tape/CDR to.

Let's spread the joy of music this holiday season for Bill, and for all of
us.

Sláinte!

-sue

Susan Peete
suepeete@cruzio.com

In loving Memory of Bill Peete:
http://members.cruzio.com/~billpeet/

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Subject: Re: NN: those who like Nanci like ... 
From: Halesbop@aol.com 
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 23:54:19 EST 

PRobin5478@aol.com writes:

> Yes, I have thoughts on RISE.
> 
> It is, far and away, Kim's worst album.  A major disappointment.

Ouch. I really like Rise. Sure I prefer her first couple of cds out of them
all, but I think Rise is a fine outing. But it's not folk or country, if
that's what you want. I'd compare it to Lucinda's Essence, in that lots of
people were disappointed with it because it was such a departure. But I love
that one, too.

I saw Kim last week at the Magic Bag in Ferndale, MI and it was quite
enjoyable. Her touring band isn't as strong as some she's had, but not bad.
She is selling a limited number of vinyl pressings of Rise at her shows, for
those who are into that.

Steve Hale

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Subject: NN: those who like Nanci like ...  
From: "Paul Castle" (pdcmusic@freeuk.com> 
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:34:35 -0000 

ConorMG@aol.com included in a list of 10 - ? :)

>Ailish Kennedy (Irish)

spelt Éilís Kennedy - if you mean the same one I recently
heard singing Sandy Denny's 'Who Knows Where  the
Time Goes'  - did it for me!

Is the rest of the album as good as this?

found a review here
http://www.ionentertainment.ie/ek.htm

small Nanci connection  - bass player James
Blennerhassett, who plays on this, also played
on Frances Black's debut album 'Talk to Me'
which included 4 Nanci Griffith songs. I heard
Frances say that Nanci was in the Dublin studio
when she recorded her version of  "On Grafton
Street" - (a little teary-eyed, by all accounts).

Best to all
Paul
http://www.mp3.com/stations/acrossthepond

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Subject: Re: NN: List of favourites - hang fire! Kim Richey 
From: ConorMG@aol.com 
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:52:20 EST 

> > Goodness, is it that time already?  
> No, it isn't 

Sorry, I was over-excited by the music.  Must stay cooler. 

I'm sad to hear that the new Kim Richey doesn't match her previous three,
but then not much does. Her songs stand up better to repeated playing than
most I listen to. I ordered a copy from a local dealer but it hasn't
appeared, so I can only judge by the snippets you can hear online, and they
sound fine.  If it's only half as good as her earlier work, then it's still
well worth buying. 
I think if a person doesn't take you to the heights they took you to before,
that's no reason to knock them. Maybe they've changed, maybe it's you, maybe
they're going through a bad patch, maybe you should move on quietly.  It's
ok to say you are disappointed, but there should be more than a mere
implication of  high expectations.  Artists aren't always as thick-skinned
as consumers, and they need support and encouragement from their admirers.
Some of them also need the money.  

Who was it said that Keats was killed by a savaging in the Edinburgh Review?


I'm listening to her second cd 'Bittersweet' now, from 1997, and am once
again stunned by how positive and encouraging the lyrics are. Frankly, the
first song leaves me gasping:

Once upon a time somewhere in your past
Someone said 'forever' but the promise didn't last.
Now you don't believe love is ever true;
You steel yourself against the day when I stop loving you.

When the day comes that I don't love you
Every star will fall out of the sky
And every mountain will tumble down
And every river run dry.

For every drop of rain that ever touched the ground
For every tear that ever fell and never made a sound
I'll be there to hear you call
And I'll be there to catch you baby
Should you ever fall.

When the day comes that I don't love you
Every star will fall out of the sky
And every mountain will tumble down
And every river run dry....

The directness and conviction of that song is awesome. The next is even
better:

After all was said and done there was nothing left to do.
The hardest mile I ever walked was the one I walked away from you.
So maybe I'm a little ragged round the edges
And I've been keeping a little more to myself these days. 

But I'm alright, shot down but I'm still standing.
I'm alright,  a little banged up from the fall.
I'm alright,  still shaky from the landing.
I'm alright after all.

You know it's not really that bad, no matter how bad it might feel
'Cause there ain't nothing time won't fix.  
This ain't nothing that some time won't heal.
So maybe I've been walking a little wounded.
I move a little bit slower now but that's ok. 

'Cause I'm alright, shot down but I'm still standing.
I'm alright,  a little banged up from the fall.
I'm alright,  still shaky from the landing.
I'm alright after all.

And every now and then I think about you.
Oh, every now and then I cross the line.
I'm alright,  shot down but I'm still standing.
I'm alright, a little banged up from the fall.
I'm alright, still shaky from the landing.
I'm alright after all.

The first is in the tradition of John Donne's extravagant protestations of
love; the second's structural irony reminds me of another Tudor poet,
Michael Drayton, and his witty sonnet:

'Since there's no help, come let us kiss and part.
Nay, I have done; you get no more of me,
And I am glad, yea, glad with all my heart,
That thus so cleanly I myself can free....'

Not many modern singers make you think and feel so much, sing with such a
characterful and beautiful voice, blend the colloquial with the high-flown
as deftly, while capturing everyday situations so exactly and lifting you
out of them so inspiringly.

So if you don't buy her fourth, go and treat yourself to one of her other
recordings.  If there is a consistently better popular singer-songwriter
around than her, I'd love to hear about it!

Conor

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Subject: Re: NN: List of favourites - hang fire! Kim Richey 
From: "John Graveling" (kai21@dial.pipex.com> 
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:28:14 -0000 

The new Kim Richey cd has had a marvelous review in the latest (November)
issue of CMP magazine, here in the U.K. Nanci's "Winter Marquee" also gets a
fine review, unlike the new Nickel Creek cd which gets something of a
panning.

John "just keeping y'all informed" Graveling

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Subject: Re: NN: Acoustic Nanci 
From: Catelaw@aol.com 
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:34:49 -0500 

ksmsc@kmsx.net writes:

> Noah wrote:
> >>It's is my big dream that Nanci will go on a solo/acoustic 
> >>tour (or maybe with Hooker & Etheridge) & play small 
> >>intimate clubs & revisit some of her older material.

My husband was lucky enough to witness such a performance in Atlanta and
compares all other Nanci concerts to it. None thus far have lived up to or
exceeded it. As far as time frames, it was sometime before 1991.

Cate, Atlanta

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Subject: Re: NN: More Acoustic Nanci 
From: Catelaw@aol.com 
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:08:19 -0500 

Catelaw writes:

> My husband was lucky enough to witness such a performance
> in Atlanta and compares all other Nanci concerts to it.
> None thus far have lived up to or exceeded it.
> As far as time frames, it was sometime before 1991.

Actually, Gordon believes it was in early 1991 and was at the Arts Center,
Woodruff Hall.  He also recalls that Nanci was accompanied only by an
additional guitarist, but doesn't know who that was.

But I'm so excited!  When I asked him about it, he thought I was talking
about the show that he, I and Father Nathan saw in Athens about three years
ago!  Of course, we did have primo seating, made continuous eye contact with
the Nanster  and she gave HIM PERSONALLY the "hook 'em horns" UT sign after
he flashed it at her.  I had to hold on to his belt to keep him from leaping
off the balcony ;) But that show could in no way be confused with the spare
setup described before.  Nanci was just in such high spirits that night, as
I recall, jumping up and down and moving her head back & forth with the
music.  It WAS a great show.  And for anyone in striking distance of Athens
(Georgia, that is) who doesn't know, it's a great little town for music. I
hear they play some football down there, too.  But don't look for any round
ball or you'll wear yourself out.

For anyone who really wants to know or is just bored, the demarcation
between the acoustic show and those after is that he and I hadn't met when
he went to the acoustic show...

Cate, gotta read between the lines, in Atlanta


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Subject: NN: Nanci Dream 
From: "Mike Mosley" (MMosley@taylorguitars.com> 
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:02:58 -0800 

I had a dream about Nanci last night.   She was staying at a "Grande Hotel",
in a huge multi-room suite.  Somehow I was invited to visit her and we spent
a good deal of time just chatting on a luxurious velvet couch.  I think it
was deep purple.   Well after I had extensively told her how much her music
had meant to me, I realized that she was her music and if I had any sense at
all, I should ask her to marry me.  I also happen to have a big diamond ring
in my pocket.  Aren't dreams great.   Well I asked, and she didn't respond
to the question but instead excused herself and said she would be right
back.   I remember sitting there with all the hope in the world that she
would come back and say yes.
I woke up before she returned.  
It was nice to see Nanci again, even if only in a dream. And like her songs,
she left me with hope.
It was a nice way to start the day. 

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Subject: NN: Venues 
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:36:45 -0800 
From: nesamuels@earthlink.net 


>>"in addition to songs, what would everyone's favorite
>>venue be to see Nanci in?
>>Tracy, stalling in studying. in Austin"

1.) The Bottom Line, NYC
2.) Slim's SF
3.) Great American Music Hall, SF

just to name a few.

Noah in SF

btw, I thought of another list of 10 or so songs 
that I wouldn't mind hearing!!

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Subject: NN: What should have been included on Winter Marquee 
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:42:34 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) 
From: "Caroline Grew" (c.k.grew@btopenworld.com> 

In no particular order of preference:

1. Armstrong
2. Daddy Said
3. You Made This Love a Teardrop
4. One Blade Shy of a Sharp Edge
5. Hard Times Come Again No More

Caroline

n.p.  The Greatest Hits of Crowded House

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Subject: NN: RE: Venues 
From: "Hans Janssen" (hjanssen@zeelandnet.nl> 
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:29:20 +0100 

>>"in addition to songs, what would everyone's favourite
>>venue be to see Nanci in?"

My favourite venues would be:

1 Arsenaal theater, Vlissingen, the Netherlands
2 Ancienne Belgique, Brussels, Belgium	
3 Open air in Bruges, Belgium in the same setting I once saw Kate & Anna
McGarrigle there in a small yard of a medieval church.

But I don't think this will ever come true.....

Met vriendelijke groeten,

Hans Janssen.


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Subject: NN: Nanci and Kim Richey 
From: "Holly Reames" (hbreames@hotmail.com> 
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 16:01:24 -0600 


I can't get into Kim Richey's "Rise" either.  I've left it on the CD player
for about 3 weeks, really trying to give it a chance.  Every time it pops up
I think, "What's wrong with Lucinda Williams?", then I remember it's Kim.
Well, maybe the next release will be better - I can't even name one song on
"Rise" that stands out.

As far as "Winter Marquee" goes, I can't explain why we're not all
super-excited about it.  It's certainly very enjoyable and I'm thrilled to
have it.  Most of the songs aren't new and aren't a big departure from their
original versions.  We liked those, we like these.  The new ones are good,
but don't just reach out and grab me.  Still, I like hearing Nanci sing
anything, so keep it coming.

'kay bye
Holly

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Subject: NN: A small gift from the New York Times 
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 09:25:16 -0500 
From: "Rob Stiene" (rstiene@ix.netcom.com> 

Today's (11/3) Sunday Times Crossword Puzzle.... 101. Across...

"Folk/country singer Griffith."

Ummm.....
-- 
Rob Stiene
25 Mozart Street, Binghamton, NY 13905-3934
Phone/Fax: 607 770 9570   Mobile 607 727 0105
PGP Public Key at pgpkeys.mit.edu; rob stiene


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Subject: Re: NN: A small gift from the New York Times 
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 16:00:18 -0800 (PST) 
From: "angeladybug@yahoo.com" (angeladybug@yahoo.com> 

> "Folk/country singer Griffith."

that is cool!  now the true test--did they have an i
or a y at the end?


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Subject: NN: Tom Dowd 
From: "John Graveling" (kai21@dial.pipex.com> 
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:50:48 -0000 

It was with great sadness that I learned only today (2nd Nov.) of the death
of the legendary record engineer and producer Tom Dowd. Seemingly he died in
Florida last Sunday, yet I had no inkling of this from anywhere. Anyone who
listened to Aretha Franklin, Ray Charles, Dusty Springfield, Buffalo
Springfield, Cream, The Allman Brothers Band and Derek & the Dominos, will
know of the man and his work.

His obituary appeared in the U.K. broadsheet newspaper, the Independent, and
the opening paragraph said it all, "The record producer and engineer Tom
Dowd pioneered new techniques and was involved in more hit records and
albums than George Martin and Phil Spector combined".

A sad day for the recording industry, but his name lives on in all those
magical records.

John "saddened" Graveling

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Subject: NN: Eddie From Ohio 
From: Mtwoodward@aol.com 
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 09:36:15 EST 

Hello, all.  In the Sunday, Nov. 3rd edition of the Washington Post
Magazine, there will be an excellent article about Eddie From Ohio.  You can
read it at http://www.washingtonpost.com.  I receive the Magazine in the
Sunday supplement, delivered on Saturday.  There is an ironic observation in
there somewhere but I'll leave  that up to the wordsmiths in the group.
Thanks, too, to all of you who were so supportive during the sniper mess
here in Washington.  I am happy to report that all is back to normal
(depending on your definition of normal).  This is a wonderful community and
I am happy to be a infrequent poster and constant lurker.  

I will be attending the Nov. 12th concert in Alexandria, VA, at the
Birchmere where Nanci will perform in a salute to Emmylou Harris.  Anyone
want to speculate what Nanci's setlist will include?  Hint:  it's a
fundraiser for Vietnam Vets AND the Landmine Free World.

-- Michele

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Subject: NN: Re: A small gift from the New York Times 
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 19:42:41 -0500 
From: "Rob Stiene" (rstiene@ix.netcom.com> 

I said:

>>  Today's (11/3) Sunday Times Crossword Puzzle....
>>"Folk/country singer Griffith."

Then angeladybug@yahoo.com said:

>that is cool!  now the true test--did they have an i
>or a y at the end?


Er...um...since you asked (and satisfying others' secret curiosity):*

ungeNtly
bAh
aeNeas
vaCate
samIsen

Of course, had Will Shortz and the gang at the NYT screwed it up, the sudden
tectonic rift in the "all is right with the world" continuum would have been
felt from Manhattan to Highway 90.

*cf. 'Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid,' last scene, where Butch --
against Sundance's clear desire NOT to know -- tells him that the next
country they should hide out in is Australia. "I figured secretly you wanted
to know, so I told ya."
-- 
Rob Stiene

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Subject: NN: Breaking the string of actual Nanci content... 
From: ChocChippy@aol.com 
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 13:57:05 -0500 

I reviewed the American Idol Live tour for Television Without Pity; please
note it's not COMPLETELY off topic, like in the same solar system, because I
do have references to various singer/songwriters (Janis Ian, for example) in
the review.

http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/story.cgi?show=89&story=4033&limit=&sor
t

(Yes, I wrote it under the name Baby Jebus).

Kathleen W.

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Subject: NN: nn:help? (minimal nc) 
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:09:15 -0800 (PST) 
From: "Georgie Girl" (georgie_girl61@yahoo.com> 

hi griffsters!  i'm delurking to ask a huge favor from
the nicest folks on the net...i'm in a poetry writing
class this semester and one of our major projects is
to compile an anthology of poems that have not
previously been collected, all pertaining to one
subject.  i've had this brilliant idea to do mine on
folk songs...i'm gonna collect them all, then burn a
cd of these songs to go with the book.  i'm really
excited about this project, but i'm not sure what all
to include...any suggestions?  any folk songs that
ya'll think are particularly poetical or worthy of
appearing in an anthology would be most appreciated. 
i have to have the "official" lyrics, with original
line breaks and all, so if you know where to find
those, great, if not, i'll scrounge around.  i'm
thinking of including kate, iris, cheryl, nanci (duh),
indigo girls...i have to come up with 20, but i may
not be able to limit it to just 20...any suggestions
on older artists/songs that i'm missing?  any
suggestions on which songs to include by the above
artists?  

thank you all, sooo much...this should be a pretty fun
thread...

lacey "only 4 more weeks of school and i'm freakin'
out" veazey

np-garrison starr: songs from take off to landing 


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Subject: Re: NN: nn:help? (minimal nc) 
From: lippert@nauticom.net 
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 14:37:19 -0500 (EST) 

Ya gotta go with Kate's "Redneck Haiku" entry: "Deep Tang".

kenn "Vulcan Butt Pinch" lippert


| kenn lippert                     "See Kate Campbell" 
| lippertNO@SPAMnauticom.net         KateCampbell.com
|
| "I have loved the stars too fondly     "The moon, the music, and me."
|  to be fearful of the night."            -Vince Bell, Texas Plates
|        -Sarah Williams                        www.VinceBell.com
|           3ap.org

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Subject: Re: NN: nn:help? (minimal nc) 
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 13:08:21 -0800 (PST) 
From: "Reid Mitchell" (reidmitchell@yahoo.com> 

Dear Georgie-Girl, 

Great idea.  

I don't know that anybody me would consider k. [Karla Schickele] a folk
singer, but she's certainly a singer-songwriter.  "Always So Good" is from
her cd NEW PROBLEMS [which I reviewed for ROCKZILLA if you want to hear more
of my loudmouth take on her: http://www.rockzilla.net/mitchell3.html] 

  

A handshake 
a cup of wine 
Or a dangerous game at the edge of the ocean 
It's always so good but it's never the same 
It's always so good but it's never the same 
  
A strange dream 
a valentine 
Or a dangerous game at the edge of the ocean 
It's always so good but it's never the same 
It's always so good but it's never the same   
  
Reid Mitchell 

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Subject: Re: NN: nn:help? (minimal nc) 
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 13:26:17 -0800 (PST) 
From: "Reid Mitchell" (reidmitchell@yahoo.com> 

Dear Georgie Girl and Netters: 

Oh dear, I never should have gotten started.  This is the last one I'll
offer, I promise: Ewann McColl's "Dirty Old Town." 

This is a classic, perhaps McColl's best known song, although he also wrote
"The First Time That Ever I Saw Your Face" for his lover Peggy Seeger.  When
I played "Dirty Old Town" for my wife, she was surprised by the last
verse--she was expecting a Bruce Springsteen/Iris Dement, "It's a dirty old
town but we love it" ending.  Ah well, folksingers used to be leftists. 

I met my love by the gas works wall
Dreamed a dream by the old canal
Kissed a girl by the factory wall
Dirty old town
Dirty old town

Clouds a drifting across the moon
Cats a prowling on their beat
Spring's a girl in the street at night
Dirty old town
Dirty old town

Heard a siren from the docks
Saw a train set the night on fire
Smelled the spring on the smoky wind
Dirty old town
Dirty old town

I'm going to make me a good sharp axe
Shining steel tempered in the fire
Will chop you down like an old dead tree
Dirty old town
Dirty old town

Reid Mitchell

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Subject: NN: Fw: Americana in pAris 
From: "Steve Goldberger" (steve@aldgategroup.com> 
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:32:38 -0500 

Hi everyone,

I'm proud to say(boast)  that my album, Gumbo Dreams, is being played along
side Nanci's tunes on this great radio show.  Check it out!  (see below) 

Regards to all 
Steve Goldberger sg@stevegoldberger.com
Toronto & Niagara-on-the-Lake
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Check out my new album,  "GUMBO DREAMS"
at http://www.stevegoldberger.com/gumbo.html
Latest News at: http://www.cdstreet.com/cgi-bin/artist_news.cgi?115872&

----- Original Message -----

> Bonjour,
>
> Americana in pAris Vol 16 is on the air all of this week
>
> As I wrote earlier, only Sisyphus Tracks members can listen.
>
> You can check the page and songs I'm playing at
> http://www.mysongwriters.com/AmericanaInpAris.htm
>
> All subscription details at http://sisyphustracks.com/
>
> Best,
>
> Herve, pAris pAl

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Subject: NN: Another one of the good guys is gone (NNC) 
From: Petop@aol.com 
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:37:43 EST 

Monday, 4 November, 2002, 14:56 GMT
'Skiffle king' Donegan dies

Musician Lonnie Donegan, known as the "king of skiffle", has died aged 71.
The Glasgow-born singer was midway through a UK tour after recovering from a
heart operation earlier this year and was due to play a concert in Stoke,
Staffordshire, on Monday.

One of the most successful recording artists of the pre-Beatles era, he had
three number one hits and numerous top 10 entries in the UK chart.

Donegan received an MBE for services to pop music

The star was with his wife and son when he died in Peterborough,
Cambridgeshire, on Sunday. He had been complaining of back trouble shortly
before he fell ill.

The skiffle king's hits included Does Your Chewing Gum Lose Its Flavor, My
Old Man's A Dustman, Cumberland Gap and Puttin' on the Style.

His more recent work with Van Morrison led to a resurgence in his career.
His skiffle music was a mixture of folk, jazz, gospel and the blues.

Dire Straits guitarist Mark Knopfler, who recently played with Donegan in
London, called him one of his greatest musical influences.

Elvis recorded one of his songs, I'm Never Gonna Fall in Love Again, and in
1978 Sir Paul McCartney was the driving force behind a tribute album
featuring appearances by Sir Elton John and Brian May.

Donegan has been described as Britain's first musical superstar and his
skiffle music swept through the country in the 1950s.

His first single Rock Island Line, released almost as an afterthought by
Decca Records, sold three million copies after being played on BBC radio and
gave him a hit in the UK and the US.

He quickly became a star in both countries although he had only ever wanted
to be a jazz banjo player.

In May this year he had heart surgery in London and seemed to have been on
the mend, although he had suffered from cardiac trouble since the 1970s.

Christened Anthony James Donegan, the star changed his name after a master
of ceremonies confused him with the American guitarist Lonnie Johnson, and
the name stuck.

He was married three times and has seven children.

(c)BBC 2002

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Subject: NN: Fwd: message for NN 
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 19:30:48 -0800 (PST) 
From: "angeladybug@yahoo.com" (angeladybug@yahoo.com> 

> 
> 
> --- Georgie Girl (georgie_girl61@yahoo.com> wrote:
>  i'm not sure what
> > all
> > to include...any suggestions?  any folk songs that
> > ya'll think are particularly poetical or worthy of
> > appearing in an anthology would be most appreciated.

Stephen Foster's Hard Times Come Again No More was
originally written as a poem, then put to music
later. which makes a lot of sense considering its
lyrics are very poetic.  it's also an important
historical song and everything...very emotion laden.
 so i would definitely include that one.  as far as
the original lyrics, i know there are a zillion
versions.  nanci said in her book that she went back
to the library of congress original version of the
song before she recorded it for OV2, so her lyrics
are probably accurate...other than that or te
library of congress website or something, i don't
know where to find them.

i'd also say (i may be way off target here, i
apologize)
--if i had a hammer
--the water is wide
--(maybe)(it's not out on cd yet but if you can find
a version) lucy kaplansky, land of the living.  its
about the sept 11 attacks.
--abraham, martin, and john

that's all i can think of right now and these may be
all wrong.  i'm a student too, caught in the end of
semester craziness.  and it's not even the end of
the semester yet!  (scream in frustration>

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Subject: NN: Vulcan Butt Pinch 
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 23:51:56 -0500 
From: "kenn lippert" (lippert@www.nauticom.net> 

Netters,

Too late to explain (and out of breath after watching Sasha Cohen's
spirals), but perhaps some other Moonpier can connect the dots and explain
how the subject phrase relates to "Deep Tang".

kenn "triple lutz" lippert

// No, I don't think so...you're on your own, bud...[BP]



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// Folks, the following is a post that references an old 
// interview, but some of us may not have read it then. [BP]
Subject: NN: Rolling Stone Interview w/ Nanci 
From: nesamuels@earthlink.net 
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:14:49 -0800 

Hello Nanci-Netters,
I just spotted this [old] interview with the Queen of Folkabilly from
Rolling Stone Magazine. I found it very interesting reading. I never knew
that she had this difficult relationship with the Chieftains. Check it out.

Noah

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In a 1984 interview with Rolling Stone, Bob Dylan remarked that a folksinger
singing his own songs-"that's not a folk singer." With her Grammy-winning
1993 Other Voices, Other Rooms collection and its just released sequel,
Other Voices, Too: A Trip Back to Bountiful, Texas," folkabilly"
singer/songwriter Nanci Griffith has taken that sentiment to heart. Both
albums collect some of the most enduring songs of the modern era by writers
ranging from Pete Seeger and Dylan to Guy Clark and Sandy Denny. On Other
Voices, Too, Griffith frequently steps into the background to allow the
dozens of guest artists to take center stage. The result is a veritable
who's who of modern folk, as star-studded as the fourteen-date Newport Folk
Festival National Tour Griffith is currently travelling the country with.
Other Voices, Too is Griffith's fifteenth album, and for the foreseeable
future, her last. When the Newport tour wraps up in Los Angeles on September
20, she plans to semi-retire from music to pursue a literary career. Her
first book (co-written with journalist Joe Jackson), Other Voices ... A
Personal History of Folk Music, is due September 14 from Random House.
Packed with Griffith's notes on her career and interviews with several of
her heroes, it's a fitting bookend to the first phase of her storied career.


Q. You collaborated with a lot of your inspirational idols on Other Voices,
Too. What was it like for you to record with, say, Richard Thompson? Were
you ever intimidated by him?

A. You know, he no longer really intimidates me. It was such a pleasure-he
intimidates my drummer Pat McInerney, because Pat just worships the ground
Richard Thompson walks on. We could never have done "You Were On My Mind"
without Richard's guitar-that big, tall, jangly Richard Thompson guitar. And
he's just an amazing person. Delightful. You never see the man without a
smile and a wink in the eye.

Q. As someone who gets so much joy out of covering other people's songs, how
did it feel when two of your peers and heroes, Willie Nelson and Emmylou
Harris recorded your own "Gulf Coast Highway"? 

A. I *loved* it, and I loved their version of it. It's funny because I was
doing a fundraiser for Ann Richards when she was still the governor of Texas
with Willie, and Willie said, "Will you do 'Gulf Coast Highway' with me
because I never get to do it unless Emmy's around." But Willie doesn't like
to rehearse. And there's an instrumental thing in the middle of it, and we
came to it, and we both looked at each other and we both realized that we
played it differently (laughs). And Willie was like, 'You take it.' It was
like Chet Atkins making me play the lead part on 'Are You Tired of Me My
Darlin' on the first volume Other Voices. I was like, 'Yeah right!' (laughs)


Q. You've recorded and toured with the Chieftains frequently, but you bowed
out of a Chieftains tour last year when Ashley MacIsaac was added to the
bill, supposedly trimming your stage time. What was behind that episode? 

A. For one thing, I was going through breast cancer at the time, and I was
going through radiation treatment and I was not going to work at all, and
[Chieftain] Paddy Moloney had asked me to do this month long tour with him.
I never met Ashley MacIsaac. We were getting complaints from promoters whom
I  had been devoted to for years because Paddy Moloney had kept cutting back
my time so that he could showcase this artist that he had a piece of. The
rest of the Chieftains are like brothers to me. I love them dearly. But I
was getting so many complaints, and promoters threatening to sue me because
they were not getting the time that was on the contracts, and I just really
did not need that conflict in my life at that time, and I was calling my
sister-in-arms Emmylou Harris every night in tears. And she said, 'You know
Nanci, sometimes you just have to bite the bullet, pack up your team, take
your ball and go home.' 

And that's what I did. And the next thing I know, I'm reading this
bull---that Paddy Moloney had put out through his publicist, creating some
kind of controversy between Ashley MacIsaac and myself. And you can imagine
how I  felt sitting in a hospital going through radiation treatment, reading
this stuff and refusing to dignify it by making a statement. My support of
other artists has been endless throughout my career, and I would never do
anything to a young artist-I like Ashley's music, but that whole thing about
the arguments ... I never met the man. He was not on the bill to begin with
and not on the contract, and that was the problem. It was a legal problem,
and it was a problem between myself and Paddy Moloney that will never be
resolved. What he did to me, I think, it was beyond abuse-it was malicious
and slanderous. And I don't mind speaking out about it now. 

Q. How are you doing now in terms of the breast cancer?

A. I'm fine. I've got it beat for the time being. It may be something that I
have to face again in life, but my dad beat cancer fifteen years ago, and I
beat it too. We're fighters. 

Q. So is it true Other Voices, Too is going to be your last album?

A. It is, yeah. For a while. I really would like to take a five-year break
and do other things. The Nashville Ballet Company put together a
contemporary ballet ["This Heart," based on Griffith's songs] that is just a
gorgeous ballet and we are planning on taking that to other symphonies and
companies in '99. The Blue Moon Orchestra and I are in the pit. It's a real
challenge for me because you've got to play by the books. You've got to play
those songs by the charts or you're going to leave some dancer up in the
air. It's an exact, heartfelt experience. And I really want five years to
just enjoy these things and explore these avenues. 

Q. So this retirement doesn't necessarily mean that we'll never hear you
record again?

A. No. I'll write and I'll watch. The eclectic songs that the great singers
won't take a chance on, I'll want them to be heard. So I'm sure there will
be other records, but not for a while. 

Q. Tell me a bit about your Personal History of Folk Music book.

A. It's a really fun book because it's basically a series of interviews with
all of these artists. Pete Seeger is the coda on the book, and it was the
first time for Pete to go in-depth about what it was like to be black-listed
in the Fifties. And there's a lot of great, funny stories. I think that
people will enjoy it because you never really know what goes on in sessions,
especially in a hootenanny like this where you've got thirty-seven people
gathered around a microphone to sing "Wasn't That a Mighty Storm." 

I had said that I'll never do another volume of Other Voices, Other Rooms,
because it's so painful trying to get all these people together in one room
at one time. And it's hard to get them to leave! You say, "Jerry Jeff,
you've got to get out of here, you've got a plane to catch," and he's like,
"No, I want to stay..." and you've got to say "No! You're outta here!" It's
great fun, but it's like childbirth-you forget how painful it was. 

RICHARD SKANSE

 

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Subject: NN: Horror at LaLaurie House 
From: "The Kimbros" (kimbroj@charter.net> 
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:17:23 -0500 

Horror at LaLaurie House 
S. Kimbro

~   October rewards the Crescent City for the misery
of July and August. Just breathing outside becomes a
difficult task in the hot summer months. But in
October cool breezes blow across Lake Ponchetrain
through the lush green ferns which drip from the
wrought iron balconies of the French Quarter.  I like
to go to New Orleans in October.

~   I stood beneath the ferns and looked up toward the
top of the ancient brick building at 1140 Royal
Street.  Something had caught my eye up there, perhaps
the quick movement of a bird.  A dark feather spiraled
toward me.  Once it hit the ground I leaned over to
examine it. I expected it to be that of a pigeon, but
was surprised to see that it was more likely from the
wing of a crow or blackbird.  I wondered about it as I
made my way up to the front door of the house.

~    I'd arrived in New Orleans only a few hours earlier
and was surprised to find all the hotels full due to
the long-awaited opening of a casino near the Mississippi
Riverfront. Having been turned away from yet another hotel,
I had decided to give up and take a cab back toward the
airport when a matronly bell-lady stepped out from a back 
courtyard. She had handed me a slip of paper bearing an
address and whispered in a thick Creole accent that I
might find lodging here.  I'd thanked her and hurried
to this address.

~   Now, as I stood on the cobbled street and looked up
at the house, I was having second thoughts. This was not
the charming Vieux Carre hotel I had imagined. Surprisingly,
the massive metal door stood partially open. I shouted
out a friendly "Hal-oh, anybody home," but heard
only my echo in return.  I walked in.  Inside, I found
a darkened, burned-out hallway. There was the thick
smell of smoke as water dripped down a spiral staircase
that led to a dimly lit room from which I heard the
flutter of wings.  Curiosity got the best of me so 
I dropped my bags and carefully started up the stairs.  

~   Not ten years of military service, slaughtering
days on an East Tennessee farm, nor even time spent
working in the trauma ward of a hospital could have
prepared me for this grizzly scene in the room at the 
top of the stairs.  A single candle illuminated more
than a dozen bodies which were chained to the brick
walls or locked in steel cages. Some still clung to
life. A woman whose arms and legs had been broken
and reset at horrific angles moaned from a table
where she lay strapped.  A man whose internal organs
had been removed and placed in jars of yellow liquid
stared blankly down at me. 

~  There were heads in wooden buckets beside make-shift
operating tables which were smeared with fresh blood.
Amputated limbs were strewn about and stacked in a
corner of the dim room. All around was horror and the
dreadful stench of death.  I noticed quick movement
near an open window and looked directly into the red
eyes of a jet-black raven which was perched on the
window-sill.  It blinked once then flew away as I
bolted down the stairs and out into the blinding
daylight of Royal Street.

~   The police station was just a few blocks away. 
I raced down the street and up the brick steps to
the first uniformed officer I saw, a gray-bearded
black man in his late sixties. At first he seemed genuinely
concerned at my desperate ravings, but as I described
the location of the terrible scene I noticed a look
of pity drift across his dark eyes. He reached around
behind his desk and filled up a cone-shaped paper cup
with cold water which he handed me along with a
tattered yellow newspaper.  On the faded front page
I read the headline "Firemen Find Horrors at LaLaurie
House." The article told how firemen responding to a
blaze at the house described the scene exactly as I'd
just witnessed it.  I gasped in amazement when I read 
the date on the paper, "October 1834."

~   "Now, let's go see about your bags," the officer
sighed.  I reluctantly trudged along behind him until
we reached the LaLaurie House where he opened the door
and we stepped inside.  I blinked and rubbed my tired
eyes.  Inside was the gaily lit hallway of a 
refurbished 19th century boarding house.  Oriental
rugs covered lacquered hardwood floors while crystal
chandeliers hung from the high ceilings.  In one
corner I noticed a brightly decorated bird-cage from
which a raven called out a raspy "Hal-Oh, Hal-Oh." The
policeman walked over to a marble-topped desk and
began speaking to the lady in charge.

~   "Here's another one," he explained.

~   She shook her head and replied,  "It happens
every year on the night before Halloween.  I found 
his bags at the foot of the stairway and I've already
put them in the room up top.  That is, if he still
wants to stay."

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Happy Halloween, folk fiends,
-Shawn

http://www.mountainsoul.net

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