// We start and end this digest with some stream-of-conscience 
// posts that, frankly, I just didn't know whether to delete or 
// not...maybe next time I'll be more awake.
// Enjoy...[BP]

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From: ConorMG@aol.com 
Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 17:50:36 EDT 
Subject: NN: I'd say Oi! Nanci, no! 

OK so I pay all this money to AOL so I can be on the internet but I've seen 
it all (White House tour, inside of a rat, Wall St insider tips, make a 
fortune from home)  and the only thing that still interests me is what they 
say on the NN.  Trouble is, the NN are going through an introverted phase 
(nobody loves me, it's all falling apart, bring back acoustic, where are the

hasbeens of yesteryear?) and I don't get so many emails any more. Well I do,

but I'm not into viagra.)  So, I think up exciting challenges to get them 
going, but what happens is a couple of clever guys write cryptic responses 
that take me days to work out, and then the rest is silence. What then do I 
do?  OK, I write to myself.  I think up interesting topics and answer them 
myself. So here goes. 
Hey everybody!  
If that Nanci Griffith came round this area to do one of her concerts -- at,

say, the Pavilion, Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire -- and she didn't sing 
properly because she had a cold or some bad fan mail or a little drink  too 
many or a row with her partner or had taken some drug to sleep or calm down 
or whatever, then I would not be the first one to conclude that she had 
deliberately gone out of her way to come here and wind us all up with this 
carry-on, breathing unclean germs all over the front row fanatics who had 
paid good money for the privilege, and I might think that it cancelled out 
twenty years of pleasure or if I was really angry I might demand my money 
back as many must think of doing at Bob Dylan concerts.  I knew all this 
success and stardom and staying in hotels and electronic guitars and
drumkits 
would come to no good, and I never did support the canonization campaign 
anyway, despite the photos and FAD.  And now I notice that the Pavilion
Hemel 
Hempstead is closing down, and that is too synchronic to be a coincidence.
So 
what do you think? Is it the end of the world or was Oxford a blip on the 
face of eternity?

Conor nl to Cab Merlot


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Subject: Re: NN: I'd say Oi! Nanci, no! 
Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 16:05:08 -0700 (PDT) 
From: "Reid Mitchell" (reidmitchell@yahoo.com> 

 ConorMG@aol.com wrote: 

> Is it the end of the world or was Oxford a blip on the 
> face of eternity?

Yes. 

Reid Bhodisatva Nature Mitchell 

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Subject: NN: feedback #9 
From: ConorMG@aol.com 
Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 18:28:02 EDT 


Hey Con!
Interesting email!  We're always amused by these confessional postings!
Some mighty fine long words there.
What did you mean by blip though? Seems you're mixing it with flip....

Just caught Nanci on XYZTV123 and she was steamin'.

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From: "John Courtney" (jc_riselaw@hotmail.com> 
Subject: Re: NN: I'd say Oi! Nanci, no! 
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 13:07:00 +0000 

Hey Connor,

Ever thought about switching to decaf?

Actually, I'd pay double the ticket price to hear someone shout 'Oi! Nanci, 
no!' or somesuch at a concert. I've read that she is very adept at dealing 
wittily with hecklers but the audiences at her concerts here in Scotland 
have always been so damnably polite! Any good Nanci/heckler stories out 
there?

Sorry to hear about Hemel Hempstead. First those famous triplets - Pat, Mack

& Ernie - leave.......and now this!

Cheers
John.

PS. Who're you calling 'cryptic', pal?

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From: "Matt Bloomfield" (mail@mattbloomfield.co.uk> 
Date: 2 May 2002 21:53:05 +0000 
Subject: Re: NN: I'd say Oi! Nanci, no! 

*Conor* wrote:

> and I don't get so many emails any more. Well I do, 
> but I'm not into viagra.)  

Anyone else ever played spam snap?  Kills an hour or two on
mailing lists if you have the time and inclination.  

> What then do I do?  OK, I write to myself.  
> I think up interesting topics and answer them myself. 

Bit quiet up your way, eh?

> If that Nanci Griffith came round this area to do one of her 
> concerts -- at, say, the Pavilion, Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire -- 

Now if I didn't know you better, I'd say you were picking on me :)
The Pavilion has a bumper month in June, if they had put on the kind
of events they've got next month the rest of the time it wouldn't be
closing and the building of an alternative venue might be viable.  I
mean, who'd want to miss an audience with Paul Daniels?

> And now I notice that the Pavilion Hemel Hempstead is closing
> down, and that is too synchronic to be a coincidence. 
> So what do you think? 

Nothing to do with Nanci, the decision was announced before her last
tour.  More to do with Hemel being a bit crap.

> Is it the end of the world or was Oxford a blip on the 
> face of eternity?

Well, what with Oxford and RMFF last year, Nanci'll be gettin' herself
a reputation.  I mean, anyone'd think she was human or something....
 

Matt - You mean you dragged me away from writing an assignment for
this?

--

Blessed are the flexible for they shall not be bent out of shape.

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Subject: NN: Kasey Chambers (NNC) 
From: "Paul Reeve" (paul@preeve.clara.co.uk> 
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 23:11:58 +0100 

Hi all

Got my copy of "Barricades and Brickwalls" yesterday (only released in the
UK on Monday) Have started listening, but have only heard the first 5 tracks
so far (lack of time!!)

First impressions - wonderful: go buy it!

Paul

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Subject: NN: Nanci in Concert 
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 07:34:04 -0400 
From: "James Troiano" (James_Troiano@umit.maine.edu> 

Hi all: I was distressed to hear about Nanci's performance in Oxford. I am
particularly concerned about her health and hope that she is ok. I was lucky
to see her twice in her recent Northeast tour (once in NY and once in New
Hampshire). Fans and critics agreed that she was marvelous. I had written my
own reviews and quoted others and sent them to the Nancinet at that time.
She was enthusiastic, her voice was marvelous, and she worked so well with
the band as well as the audience.  Let's hope that it was one off night. I
know that sometimes when I am not feeling well my classroom performance is
not up to par. I hope that it is nothing more serious than that. I hope to
see Nanci again in Boston in September. I am depending on my fellow fans to
let us know how her future concerts are. Thanks , Jim 

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Subject: NN: Re: Houston is... 
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 23:06:29 -0400 (EDT) 
From: "David Wade" (dave@nmdatamine.zianet.com> 

>Petop@aol.com wrote: 
> > Houston is nothing more than Los Angeles with all the
> > fun taken out of it.
>
>then Sarah wrote: 
> > "Houston lay like Cleveland with the color removed." 
> > I couldn't resist.

Can I try?  And my granddaughter was born in Houston...  
I rescued her before any of it could "stick".

Houston is Albuquerque after the balloons have flown away...
Houston is Santa Fe after the rainbows have all died.
Houston is Barstow with no retirees.

The Houston slums were torn down to put in a Baseball Stadium...  
Every road in town seems to go past it.  
Imagine, a lifestyle where a good baseball game 
is as good as it gets!

On the other hand,
Houston is only an hour from New Orleans.
There's Cajun Dancing every night in Houston.
Mission Control is there. 

         Dave

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Subject: NN: re live album 
From: "David" (dbrons@cox.net> 
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 07:10:54 -0700 

>>wouldn't it be wonderful
if Nanci released...a live "Flyer"((

Yes, and it would be great if she released a DVD video of it too. I'm
hoping...

David

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Subject: NN: Strange news 
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 09:14:32 -0700 (PDT) 
From: "Bill Page" (bpage3@yahoo.com> 

The Associated Press is carrying the following story today:

"Bob Dylan will perform this fall at the annual Jazz Aspen Snowmass
festival. Dylan will play Sept. 1. Opening acts haven't been announced.

""It's been a long time coming," said Jazz Aspen executive producer Jim
Horowitz, who has been trying to bring Dylan to the festival for seven
years. "It's like getting to the top of a 20,000-foot mountain for me. He's
definitely an artist who's reached that living icon status."

"Jazz Aspen, usually held in Snowmass Village, is expected to be moved to
the Buttermilk Mountain base area because of a construction project. "Phil &
Friends, led by former Grateful Dead bassist Phil Lesh, is scheduled to
perform on opening night, Aug. 30. Willie Nelson and Nickel Creek are set to
perform on closing day, Sept. 2.

"Tickets go on sale in May."

****************

Man, I've always loved the great jazz stylings of Dylan and Nickel Creek...


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Subject: Re: NN: live album? 
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 02 16:30:06 +0100 
From: "John Edward Graveling" (kai21@dial.pipex.com> 

While I agree with 'Petop' that a Nanci live cd featuring songs that had 
not appeared on other releases would be mighty fine, something akin to 
Neil Young's "Time Fades Away", or Jackson Browne's stellar "Running On 
Empty", how many songs does Nanci perform that have not been released? I 
cannot think of many off the top of my head. So while it is a nice 
thought, the reality suggests we will get live treatments of some hoary 
old, and not so old, chestnuts.

John Graveling

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Subject: NN: Live 
From: "Susan Krauss" (susankrauss@earthlink.net> 
Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 20:11:49 -0700 

I saw an article where Nanci said this about the upcoming live album:

"It was really by accident," she says of the CD. "We had no immediate
thought of doing a live album. There were some new songs of mine I really
wanted to capture, and on the last tour we were recording on a nightly
basis. As it went along, we said, 'We've got a live album here.'"

*******

Sorry to hear about the Oxford, MS show. I was hoping the Rocky Mountain
Folks Festival show was an isolated incident.  I'll be seeing Nanci at the
Kate Wolf Festival (unfortunately missing a solo show that same weekend
since I can't be in Saratoga and Laytonville at the same time).

susan in alameda

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Subject: NN: Nanci - What next? (was live album?) 
From: "Paul Castle" (pdcmusic@freeuk.com> 
Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 10:03:44 +0100 

John Edward wrote:

>I feel Nanci releasing another live record at 
>this stage of her career is a bit of a cop out....

I know nothing of her record label/management
strategy  - so just another personal opinion - but 
I can't help but feel that Nanci has drifted 'off the 
course' (of what she really loves to do) a bit 
recently  - it's not the songwriting or the singing, 
but the arrangements that don't attract me like 
they used to - I crave the days of Ponchartrain - 
those joyous banjo/fiddle roots-driven days with 
Bela Fleck, Lyle Lovett and that crowd  - I sense 
that recently someone has been influencing her 
to go for the bigger picture, the barriers of pop  - 
a very big competitive pool where real fans slowly 
evaporate and new ones don't usually stay long.

To return closer to her roots wouldn't be seen (by me 
at least) as jumping on the O Brother bandwagon -
Nanci WAS the bandwagon for a lot of her UK fans,
getting us interested in all sorts of wonderful folky
americana. 

When I see a new group like The Be Good Tanyas
selling out The Borderline in London and causing
such a stir with just a ukelele, mandolin, acoustic 
guitar, banjo and brushes, I can't help but wish Nanci 
would have the courage to get back on this rung of 
her career - I have a feeling she would be so much 
happier, too.

All the very best

Paul

'Across the Pond' by Paul Castle
@ http://www.balladtree.com
banjo/guitar/vocals in
The Rosinators
[currently #1 in the UK mp3.com Bluegrass Chart]
listen @
http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/386/the_rosinators.html

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Subject: Re: NN: Nanci - What next? (was live album?) 
Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 10:44:59 -0700 (PDT) 
From: "angeladybug" (angeladybug@yahoo.com> 

It sounds to me from some of the recent set lists as
though she has been rejuvenating some of her older
songs (did I see "I'm not Driving These Wheels"
mentioned, for example?) as well as adding some new
ones that to my knowledge have not been recorded, such
as the Julie Gold one...goodnight New York, is that
the title?  Sorry I'm not remembering ell right now. 
:-P  But if this is the case then I think a new live
album has the potential to be better than some of the
studio recorded overproduced work.

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Subject: Re: NN: Nanci - What next? (was live album?)
From: Petop@aol.com
Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 09:22:26 EDT

pdcmusic@freeuk.com writes:

> When I see a new group like The Be Good Tanyas
> selling out The Borderline in London and causing
> such a stir with just a ukulele, mandolin, acoustic 
> guitar, banjo and brushes, I can't help but wish Nanci 
> would have the courage to get back on this rung of 
> her career 

Speaking of going back in their career, I understand that the Dixie Chicks, 
who went out of their way to separate themselves from the bluegrass they 
played on their first albums, have decided their next album will be an all 
acoustic bluegrass effort.
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  "Badges? We ain't got no badges. We don't need no badges. I don't have to
 show you any stinking badges." --Gold Hat (Alfonso Bedoya) in "The Treasure
 of the Sierra Madre"

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Subject: NN: More C C R; n. p. r. 
From: "Steffel, Kenneth A." (hickorywind@inos.com> 
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 16:57:59 -0400 

NNeters; Tricia, sent this to the NN about last Friday's (26 April 2002)
story on npr about radio listener-ship and provided the link.

her letter follows

(Friday's All Things Considered had an interesting piece on American Radio
listenership is down and programs are all done by a few.
http://search.npr.org/cf/cmn/cmnpd01fm.cfm?PrgDate=04/26/2002&PrgID=2
Give it a listen if you like. Tricia >.

I have a few things I want to mention.
 
One is Bill Moyers, and his new show on PBS "Now" also had aired story's in
a similar vein last Friday and it was about Clear Channel. Which also made
me think of a link I had wanted to post on the NN: following last September
11th's events and the "Clear Channel Radio "Banned Songs List" hoax that was
going around on this list, and the WWW.

As you'll remember, I bought into it, as did others and in just a day and a
half or thereabout it was straightened out due to the efforts of the
Kimbro's and Ken Stiffler, Susan Peete, and others. Revisiting this in my
mind I am reminded, that to be so gullible, to fall for such a plausible
sounding story, in No Way compares, to the sick individual(s) that came up
with this fraud, this hoax, this urban legend, in the face of such calamity,
and time of sorrow.

I did find a very interesting story on CCR (sadly, not the band) and just
wanted to send the link to all that might care to read it. (as well as the
PBS "NOW" link to that story also. Past shows/stories have been transcribed
so I assume this one will. Just went to the PBS site and it is hyper-linked.


http://www.pbs.org/now/

Right at the top center of the page, and then articles, down.
--->Articles featured.
---->Don't touch that dial ! But would it matter if you did? 
---->NOW explores the impact of media consolidation. 
--->Also Featured
---->Does big radio restrict your choice of music? NOW investigates. 
---->Cable conglomeration and you (Cable TV) 

the links are;

http://www.pbs.org/now/indepth/042602_media.html/

Virtual Radio: Story with T Bone Burnett in interview.
http://www.pbs.org/now/transcript/transcript_clearc.html/

All fairly interesting storys/reports. 

Lots of Netters know this to be a downward's spiral towards the airwaves
musical future... 
(even now, and for a long time already upon us) 
just thought of the olde John Prine lines

"we're all living in the future,
I'll tell you how I know.
I read it in the newspaper,
fifteen years ago."

Hope you all enjoy the linked articles.

And here is the link for those long ago September days story that I never
did get posted.from the New Haven Advocate:
--->Radio's Big Bully :By Eric Boehlert
---> (Published 07/26/01)  
--->http://www.newhavenadvocate.com/articles/radiobully.html/

Eric Boehlert is a senior writer at the Internet magazine Salon, from which
this article is excerpted. 
For Boehlert's complete reporting on  Clear Channel, go to:
--->http://www.salon.com/ent/feature/2001/04/30/clear_channel/index4.html/

As ever.  one_love.    ken.

I had read this article months ago, as I said.
I just checked earlier this afternoon to see if it was still in cyberspace.
It was and is.

I was just re-reading it now

I do apologize for the immediate crassness of the article. What a funny
as_ed world we live in. These P.B's have millions of dollars. Probably have
lots of nubile young things, scantily clad running around (and I do assume
that, they, Are THINGS, to them.) The CCC (not CCR) boys- doing dumptruck
loads of toot, or nose-candy or snow, or flake, or whatever the de-rigure
hip name is that today's loadies use today. Meanwhile, lots and lots of
basically good, decent folks don't have two nickels to rub together. 

Yeah, as if me complaining will change anything.

Still, if the opening language offends anybody that may read it. Please
accept my apologies. It is still a good article. Do Read It.

one_love.    ken

P.S. "Houston does have a Pacifica station."
Good sailing not to far away in Port Arthur too.

I remember a statistic from, oh, 15 years ago.
With only 5 stations in the Pacifica family
KPFA San Francisco, 
KPFK Los Angeles, 
K??? (I forgot) in Houston
W???(I forget) in Washington D.C.
WBAI in N.Y.C.

One of every four U.S. residents can hear a Pacifica station.
I know KPFK used to have about 134 different shows on every week. Labor.
Motorcycles, Music, Religion, Cosmology, Gay/Lesbian/ Woman's issues, Black
issues, World's Music, News, Politics, Folk Music, Children's programming,
School issues, film, etc.

Wow, one out of four persons. That, IS station placement. It has to be
somewhat higher today, I'd be willing to bet. Of course one out of every
four persons does not tune in either, Sooooo.

Peace late.

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