NanciNet Digest 6-23-02
// All of the Nanci content is up front, including a bit more
// discussion of "Clock Without Hands."
// Enjoy! [BP
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Subject: NN: From A Distance: The Very Best Of Nanci Griffith
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 08:53:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: JAMES WARD (jward39212@yahoo.com>
I meant to get this info out to all the Nancinetters a
couple weeks ago....but somehow I forgot...must be
that I'm getting older! :)
MCA Records is releasing From A Distance: The Very
Best Of Nanci Griffith on June 25th. The tracks are
compiled from her five albums recorded on MCA Records
and a few live tracks. The playlist is as follows:
Lone Star State of Mind/Cold Hears - Closed Minds/From
A Distance/Ford Econoline/Trouble in the
Fields/There's A Light Beyond These Woods / Looking
For The Time/I Don't Want To Talk About Love/Drive-In
Movies & Dashboard Lights/It's A Hard Life Wherever
You Go/If Wishes Were Changes/Once In A Very Blue Moon
(Live)/Anyone Can Be Somebody's Fool/I Knew Love/Gulf
Coast Highway w/Mac McAnally/I Wish It Would
Rain/Outbound Plane/Love At The Five and Dime
(Live)/It's Just Another Morning Here/Late Night
Grande Hotel/Hometown Streets/The Wing and The Wheel
(Live)
The way MCA keeps mining Nanci's material...perhaps
they are having regrets about having let her go.
Anyway, there is a cool picture of Nanci on the cover
wearing a white hat. The press release I have for
this quotes Nanci as saying: "What I do is just a
little left of mainstream....I think when you're out
there forging a path, it's very difficult to package
that, because there's not a path to follow. "I've
always seen the propensity between the folkabilly
thing that I do and the Carter Family and Loretta Lynn
and that era of country standards. One thing I
certainly agree with.....The name Nanci Griffith ---
her music, her voice, her career -- is synonymous with
integrity and she has proven that talent surpasses the
industry's necessity to classify and label, for the
respect she has earned is due to the honesty she emits
through her slice of life vignettes, her unique blend
of the innocent and harsh realities.
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Subject: NN: clock without hands
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 15:18:43 EDT
From: Scaryxxx@aol.com
I too had a hard time listening to this CD the first time, but after letting it
play through a couple times I am completely stuck on the first four songs I
feel there as good as anything Nanci has ever released, the writing the
singing, the arrangements I just love it all, unfortunately I can't get past
those four songs, I realize she didn't write all of them but they fit right
into the groove, I don't know how anyone could listen to "traveling through
this part of you" and not want to play again and again.
gary
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Subject: NN: Clock Without Hands
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 09:23:55 -0400
From: "James Troiano" (James_Troiano@umit.maine.edu>
Hi folks: I wrote in the past about much I love Clock Without Hands. It
certainly helped seeing Nanci sing these marvelous songs live at the Beacon
Theater in N.Y. and the Capitol Center in Cocord, New Hampshire and the fans'
reaction was nothing less than spectacular. This album is full of marvelous
poetry from the enchanting Clock Without hands where the spirit awakens from
lethargy and once again scents life to the first line of Traveling through:
"Nothing that I have ever seen now means much of anything" how all of one's
entire view of life can be transformed by one epiphany.
This verse kept going through my head on Sept. 11 So many critics have praised
this marvelous album and I do not want to go over that what I had written when
it first came out.
Nevertheless, it is always subjective, once again Pirandello put it so well
"Right you are if you think you are." By the way, I love most of Kate
Campbell's music and she is right up there with Nanci, John Stewart, Eliza
Gilkyson and Susan Werner in my humble opinion. They are the best.
I do not like to comment negatively about artists, but personally Gillian
Welch's Time the Revelator leaves me cold in terms of her vocal delivery and
poetic lyrics. I know many disagree with that, but I had to say it.
See you,
Jim
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Subject: NN: Clock without Hands
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 17:59:35 +0000
From: "Frieda Reece" (friedalreece@hotmail.com>
My early reaction to CWH was just the same and I put it away after a couple
of plays. However after hearing Nanci sing the songs live in Manchester I
listened to it again and now quite like some of the tracks. It is not the
best CD Nanci has done by a long way but I like some of them now. Where
Would I Be is quite good and I like Nanci's version of Armstrong. Truly
Something Fine seems weak, it just repeats itself over and over. I find
the CD good to liten to in the car as it has a sort of driving rhythym all
through. Best wishes to all friends of the lady who has passed away. I
didn't know her but if she was a NN then the lady had good taste. Now I'm
off to Corsica for two weeks of total laziness. See you on my return.
FLR.
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Subject: NN: web radio (NNC)
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 09:25:19 -0400
From: Bob Juliano (rjuliano@cfl.rr.com>
Looks like the decision is finally IN on internet radio
royalties. The web-casters will be paying about half the
original proposal. Both sides are griping about the outcome.
The recording industry thinks it's too cheap, the internet
community says many will close up shop.
Less chances to hear Nanci.
There may be appeals.
http://www.newsday.com/news/politics/wire/sns-ap-internet-radio0622jun22.story
bob j
Oviedo, Florida
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Subject: NN: RE: web radio (NNC)
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 15:17:36 +0100
From: "Matt Bloomfield" (mail@mattbloomfield.co.uk>
> Looks like the decision is finally IN on internet radio
> royalties. The web-casters will be paying about half the
> original proposal. Both sides are griping about the outcome.
> The recording industry thinks it's too cheap, the internet
> community says many will close up shop.
> Less chances to hear Nanci.
> There may be appeals.
http://www.newsday.com/news/politics/wire/sns-ap-internet-radio0622jun22
.story
I think they've got their figures wrong.
My understanding from other articles is that the fee is 0.07 cents per
1000 listeners. Not 0.07 dollars (ie. Point zero 7 of a cent, rather
than 7 cents) If I am correct, their figure of 70cents per song per
1000 listeners is 1000 times too much!
I am going by the articles on The register and the original site.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/25823.html
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/25840.html
http://www.copyright.gov/carp/webcasting_rates_final.html
Matt
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Subject: Re: NN: RE: web radio (NNC)
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 13:16:40 -0400
From: Steve Robertson (stever@mindspring.com>
No, it's definitely 7/100ths of a cent per play per recipient- not per 1000
recipients. That would mean that a webcaster who had 1000 people connected
to his stream (I doubt if any of those exist!) would owe seventy cents for
each song played.
I think this just points out the advantages of the MP3.com system. They are
willing to pay an artist 50/100ths of a cent for each play- seven times more
than these new rules call for. What's more, they pay the artist directly-
where a typical webcaster under these new rules would pay a collection
agency set up by the RIAA, and only a fraction of the money collected would
actually filter down to the artist.
If these charges eventually result in a shakeout of the smaller webcasters,
I think MP3.com will really stand out as a better model for webcasting.
Because of this, I've set up several MP3.com Stations as an alternative to
other types of web streams. MP3.com doesn't pay me anything in relation to
these Stations, but the artists do get credit for a play each time one of
their songs is streamed in a Station. Give them a try:
http://www.mp3.com/stations/fiddlin_around_with_folk
http://www.mp3.com/stations/fiddlin_around_with_country
http://www.mp3.com/stations/fiddlin_around_with_old_time
http://www.mp3.com/stations/fiddlin_around_with_bluegrass
http://www.mp3.com/stations/fiddlin_around_with_alt_country
http://www.mp3.com/stations/fiddlin_around_with_AAA
Thanks,
Steve Robertson
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Subject: NN: RE: web radio (NNC)
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 14:32:13 -0400
From: "Ken Stiffler" (ksmsc@kmsx.net>
Bob wrote:
>>Both sides are griping about the outcome. The recording industry
thinks it's too cheap, the internet community says many will close up
shop.
((
I don't think I understand this. How is webcasting different from radio
broadcasting that it should have a different fee structure?
As for the webcaster's suggestion of paying a percentage of revenues
instead of a fixed fee, and the argument that, in that case, there would
be little compensation paid because revenues are low: *If* this fee
causes webcasting to die out, then there won't be *ANY* compensation
paid. Seems like a strange argument. You're not paying me enough, so I'm
going to put you out of business. Then you can't pay me anything. So
there.
As a matter of fact, if revenues are too low for enough compensation to
be paid via the percentage-of-revenue method, doesn't that imply that
there is NO WAY there would be enough revenue coming in to possibly pay
a fixed fee that supposedly *is* enough compensation? Isn't this just a
sneaky way of regulating webcasting out of existence by making it
economically non-viable?
Ken
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Subject: NN: Re: RE: web radio (NNC)
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 15:00:02 -0400
From: "The Kimbros" (kimbroj@charter.net>
Ken and all --
I think your last sentence is correct. This is absolutely a sneaky way of
eliminating most webcasting. It was proposed by the Recording Industry
Association at .14, but .07 is still way too much to make local webcasting
possible. (The RIAA may be complaining in public, but I bet they-are
toasting each other in private.) Webcasting has been a boon for independent
artists because it's provided an effective medium by which they can get
their material heard around the world. That wasn't really possible in the
past because they just couldn't get airplay from broadcast radio. Airplay
isn't about making money for independent artists, it's about the promotional
aspect of being heard. What they make off radio royalties is very little
compared to album sales. The big record companies want to squelch that
competition and the federal government is assisting. I think Steve's point
that webcasters just don't get that many listeners is correct, but that only
applies to present day. In ten years I believe a large portion of
commercial radio will be web-based. That's why the percentage of revenue
model makes sense. I'm going to attach a message I posted to the moonpie
list last week that explains the position I think most independent artists
would have on this:
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But the big news is the decision released yesterday by the Librarian of
Congress which sets a royalty rate of 7/100th of a cent per song per
recipient for internet radio broadcasts retroactive to Oct 1998. If my math
is correct that means that streaming 15 songs an hour to 1000 listeners
requires payment (and backpayment) of aprox. $11.00 per hour or $264 per day
in royalties. Backpayment must be made within 45 days. As independent
artists, it looks at first glance like we should be thrilled at this, but
it's more complicated than that. This ruling will effectively kill internet
only radio streaming and put the major labels and big commercial stations
squarely in control of internet radio. Expect webcasters to start pulling
down their webstreams today. The rate is reduced to .02 for non-commercial
stations so some listener supported radio simulcasts may survive, but the
stage is now set for the big conglomerates like Clear Channel, with all
their major label payola, to take over the webcasting industry. Let's hope
for a rapid court stay of this ruling but don't expect help from a congress
or administration sympathetic to big business.
All my best,
-Shawn
http://www.geocities.com/trailzzone/soul.html
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Subject: NN: Speaking of radio (No NG)
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 08:45:52 -0500
From: Sarah Wrightson (swrightson@vincebell.com>
This Radio locator site is useful. Also includes webcasts
http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/home
There has been a lot of talk on the lists about the Library of Congress'
decision on these radio/net royalties re the article Bob just sent.
Should be interesting.
I haven't read this one yet, but an article on the aftermath of the
Pacifica struggles over the last couple of years
http://www.salon.com/ent/feature/2002/06/20/pacifica/index.html
[Personal note...please note...we've change our email addresses. The
spam just went over the top. So if you are looking for Vince or me b/c
its swrightson@vincebell.com or vince@vincebell.com]
Happy weekend and good music,
Sarah
--
http://www.vincebell.com
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Subject: NN: Virginia Beach
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 02 20:58:00 +0100
From: John Edward Graveling (kai21@dial.pipex.com>
Friends, music lovers and people of consummate taste. It is nearly time
for my annual jaunt across the pond to experience the heat of summer in
the U.S. of A. I am planning to spend a week in Virginia Beach, the last
week of July, as I am a guest at the Lucinda Williams gig (her guitar
player, Doug Pettibone, is a close friend) at the Harbor Center in Olde
Town, Portsmouth, Va. on Friday 26th July. The supporting bill is magic,
namely Chuck Prophet opening, followed by Patty Griffin, then Lucinda
headlining.
My question is? Do any of you know the area and places worth visiting,
eating out in, and which area is best to stay in? I get cheap rooms
courtesy of the Marriott chain of hotels, so hope to stay near the beach
and soak up the rays by day, and party and eat and listen to some live
music by night.
All suggestions would be very gratefully received.
Thanking y'all in advance.
John Graveling
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Subject: Re: NN: Virginia Beach
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 09:57:08 -0400
From: DvBGardner@genelogic.com
John Edward Graveling wrote: ((...I am planning to spend a week
in Virginia Beach, the last week of July, as I am a guest at the Lucinda
Williams gig...>>>
John -- I don't live too far away from Virginia Beach (about 3 hours
drive), and would love to join you at the concert -- but my
mother-in-law lives down there...
Donate "GERMANY WON!!!!!!! I was the only Germany supporter at this
morning's soccer broadcast. Nearly got trampled down...." vBG
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Subject: Re: NN: Virginia Beach
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 10:52:50 EDT
From: Petop@aol.com
> My question is? Do any of you know the area and places worth visiting,
> eating out in, and which area is best to stay in?
If you get a chance for a day trip and you have any interest in history, I
would strongly recommend you head up to Williamsburg and Monticello. With
your interest in music, you can also do what I plan to do early in July and
that's go on a song collecting expedition in the mountains of western North
Carolina and eastern Tennessee.
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"Ben, you're boring me. I have a husband. I don't have a need for another
one."
--Janey Carver (Sigourney Weaver) to Ben Hood (Kevin Kline) in Ang Lee's
"The Ice Storm."
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Subject: Re: NN: Virginia Beach
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 02 16:54:47 +0100
From: John Edward Graveling (kai21@dial.pipex.com>
I visited Monticello on my first trip to the U.S.A. so won't be venturing
that way again.
Thanks for those who have sent suggestions so far, they are much
appreciated.
John Graveling
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Subject: Re: NN: Virginia Beach
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 14:05:45 +0000
From: "John Courtney" (jc_riselaw@hotmail.com>
Donate wrote
>Donate "GERMANY WON!!!!!!! I was the only Germany supporter at this
>morning's soccer broadcast. Nearly got trampled down...." vBG
Well yes - but on behalf of Scotland, may I apologise to the people of the
USA for that so-called referee, Hugh '^%$£head' Dallas, who added missing
that stone-obvious penalty to a long list of hideous crimes against
footballing humanity!
At least you were there....
John.
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