// Are you or aren't you?
// Enjoy! [BP]

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Subject: NN: Re: Guilty Pleasures!
    From: Tony Cox [tonycox@pacific.net.au]
    Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 6:25 PM

> After reading this list most of you will presume I am  GAY

I wouldn't have known, James - and in any case, wouldn't it be wrong to
stereotype someone based on their musical tastes??

That said, there do seem to be discernable patterns at times! A lesbian
friend of mine who does not conform to such notions and who tends to
like her music with a bit of 'attitude' was disappointed beyond belief
when she finally heard the Indigo Girls, after being told by all her
girly friends how fab they were!!  I, on the other hand - not a lesbian
(but happy to be an honorary one) - think they're pretty much OK.

Vive la difference!

Tony


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Subject: NN: Honorary lesbians...heh
    From: ChocChippy@aol.com
    Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 8:53 PM

Ed Maier said: ((If you'll remember, Kathleen declared all of us as
Honorary Lesbians back in August 2002. >>

And there is no statute of limitations on THAT!

I have not been participating much this summer (but taking a few
minutes' break to read the lovely digest) because I've been producing a
play here in NYC. It closed last week, and I am in need of much
comforting music (like Nanci's) because as exhausted as I am, I miss my
company terribly!

I even missed Nanci's LI concert because I had to be in San Francisco
for a theater conference. And since we are discussing guilty/trashy
pleasures (and I am never guilty about pleasure!) I thought I'd share
with you the music I used for the scene changes in my play "Grieving for
Genevieve," in which one of the characters was a Baltimore rocker, and
the other a New York luthier (hey...doesn't EVERYONE know what a luthier
is?)

Stop Your Sobbing/The Pretenders
Hit Me With Your Best Shot/Pat Benatar
Do You Wanna Be Like Them/The Botswanas
Only the Lonely/The Motels
Burning Down the House/Bonnie Raitt (live version from the "Road Tested"
CD)
Riding the Broom/Sexpod
Rough Tough Cream Puff/Sexpod
Lovesick Blues/Patsy Cline (from the "Trio" album by Dolly, Loretta &
Tammy)
Kiss Me Deadly/Lita Ford
Hymn to Her/The Pretenders

We got some good reviews, and I hope we'll see the show mounted again.

Here's my website: www.enavantplaywrights.org

And I'm thinking a roadtrip to see a Nanci show this fall would be just
what I need to relax & inspire.

Kathleen W.


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Subject: Re: Guilty Pleasures!
    Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 19:11:42 -0700 (PDT)
    From: John Houser (jchouser@yahoo.com>

>> After reading this list most of you will presume
>> I am GAY...

> I wouldn't have known, James - and in any case,
> wouldn't it be wrong to stereotype someone based on
> their musical tastes??

Actually, yes, it would be stereotypical. And wrong.

This is traveling far afield of Nanci, but I'll endure
the flames (donning asbestos flack jacket as I type).

I don't want to know if anyone is straight or gay. I
completely don't care 99.999999999999999999% of the
time of someone's orientation. There is only one
person on the planet whose sexual orientation I care
about and that is the person I am sleeping with at the
time. Though if that person was not the same
orientation that I am that would explain a lot of
things (note carefully I didn't claim any
orientation).

So, in general conversation, virtual or otherwise, why
is it ever brought up in casual conversation? If I had
posted that I had just returned from playing football
(tackle, not touch), was about to go to a hockey game,
and, hey, wasn't that a great boxing match last night,
then said, oh, yeah, I'm straight...

.wouldn't that be odd?

Indeed, I cannot recall anyone - ever - sharing with
me in a declarative way that they are straight. It
only works the other way. Doesn't that strike you as
odd, too?

James, I'm trying not to pick on you, because, truly,
I do not care even a little bit what you are or who
you prefer to be with. Nonetheless, Nancinetters are
the nicest people on the Net (it's true), perhaps
someone can explain to me why I'm puzzled.

Or, to bring it back to Nanci, perhaps someone can
tell we why she (apparently) has such a large
(presumably) gay audience? Or maybe I just went to a
lot of concerts where there weren't enough men to
dance with all of the women. I can't dance, so that
surely didn't help matters there...

Hope that I didn't insult anyone. Tried hard not to do
so...

Now, I'm hopping in my Mustang, putting on some old
Judas Priest (hmmmm), and going down to the bar to
hoist a few beers...

// where in the world have you been, John?
// post more often, won't you? [BP]

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Subject: RE: NN: Guilty Pleasures
    From: Renee Field [creneefield@msn.com]
    Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 12:59 PM

This is kinda off topic but does lead back to Nanci in a roundabout
way....

John, it comes up because most people still assume that most other
people are straight, and people who are not straight and not ashamed and
want to be known for who they really are and so feel compelled to bring
it up.  Heterosexuality is nearly always assumed, and if you are not
straight, you assume people will think you are unless you let them know
otherwise.  Being gay, I feel the need to let people know that before I
get too close to them--avoids problems later on when they do find out if
they have a  problem with it. Some people do, you know.

Female folksingers in general, including Nanci, have a large lesbian
following.  Not sure if it's the Girl Scout Camp factor (talk about
girls with guitars and lots of folksinging), the introspection (you've
not seen processing until you've seen a lesbian couple talking something
to death), or the idea of the independent woman making music w/ no help
from anyone (which would make it a feminist thing too I guess).  Who
knows.  It's an interesting phenomenon.

John...are you toying with us now??  Judas Priest?  Mustang??? I bet
you're drinking beer straight form the bottle too....are you
straight......or just passing for it??????  :D


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Subject: Guilty Pleasures
    From: Bill Page
    Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 11:39 AM

It's worthwhile to note that this list has always been one where we
really do not pay much attention to sexual orientation. There are many
more folks on this list (proportionately) who would not fall in the
hetero bucket than might be found in the general public. Always has
been. Probably always will be.

And some of us are simply SNAGs.

Don't know that we need to continue the thread, unless you feel strongly
about it.


Bill "the music makes us one" Page

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Subject: NN: concert report
    From: gmccarren@comcast.net
    Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 7:10 AM

    This report is a little late but I thought I should write in anyway.
    Aug 3rd I saw Nanci in Harrisburg Pa.(her first visit).
    First I'd like to say I've seen Nanci in great theaters, huge
festivals, playing with orchestras, and with many different renditions
of the blue moon orchestra, and when they took the stage with this line
up I was a little disappointed, until they started playing. When Nanci
took the stage the first thing you notice is her beautiful hair is again
long and flowing (my only fashion report). The band kicked right in and
just sounded great. Nanci was smiling and dancing and singing better
then I have ever heard her sing. She must have done six songs before she
spoke to the crowd which I kind of appreciated, and when the stories
started they where funny and quick, some we have heard before but she
sounded so fresh and seemed to really be enjoying herself. The set list
was much the same as the other reports except we weren't lucky enough to
get wing and a wheel, but enjoyed all the new material.  If you were
unsure if you would catch her on this tour, go go go see her: I don't
know if it gets any better then this...
    One funny thing that occurred to me during the show was the chatter
you hear around you before and during the show, people telling each
other stories about nanci and her songs which you know are incorrect or
very out dated; you realize that us netters know way too much about this
woman.

Gary


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Subject: NN: Extra Ticket
    From: doug mccalmont [ljburrito@yahoo.com]
    Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 8:28 AM


I have an extra ticket to see the Cowboy Junkies at the Coach House in
So. Cal this Sunday evening.  If interested please reply back channel.
No cost, just want the ticket used.

Doug

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